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[Birdfriend72]

What about screwing over the rest of the team by denying them an NCAA trip? It’s a team sport. Romine is part of the team. But you want to serve the need of 1 at the expense of the rest. The objective is to win.

Must you hate everything ISU?

Priority on winning is hating on ISU?

Of course, because some don’t care. They show up, eat popcorn...and call themselves big redbirdfan fans...hang with their clique. They could care less if we win...as long as they have a good time. That’s fine...I have no problem with that. But, for me it’s about winning and the success of the program...not just my social hour.

 

[Adunk33]

Here is some clarification on medical hardships... definitely not automatically awarded in Romine's case

https://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/07/17/how-get-medical-redshirt.htm


"Medical Red-shirts and the Five-Year Clock
Athletes must keep in mind both the five-year clock and their four seasons of competition. Even if an athlete gets a medical hardship waiver, he or she needs to have time left on their five-year clock (10-semester/15-quarter clock in Divisions II and III) to use that season.

This is problematic for athletes took a normal redshirt season or sat out due to a transfer. An athlete can generally not use a medical redshirt in those cases unless they get a clock extension or sixth year waiver. To do that the athlete show they lost two seasons outside of his or her control. The medical redshirt would be one, but the athlete would still need to show another."

If Zach Lofton can get 6 years for simply being a cancer to locker rooms and getting kicked off of two teams, then Romine should be able to get one.

 

[birdballfan]

Not sure about the others but fairly sure Hill left on his own.

Hill was the only player I ever noticed Dan benching due to a technical, in one of Dan’s famous choose to lose games. When building culture, why would only Hill be disciplined in this manner? Makes a good case that Hill was “run off” the team by Muller.

Hill has said HE regretted choosing to leave ISU. Dan tried to talk him into staying. Dan said that. Hill said that.

And for god’s sake, can we get over the “Dan chose to lose” BS? Dan chose to follow through on a promised punishment if JH was called for a T. Guess what? Hill’s behavior cost us the game. Much like MY’s behavior cost at least one game.

But I guess you’d rather we have players committed to a lack of discipline, a lack of putting team first. You obviously don’t know Dan’s competitive spirit to even suggest he would choose to lose.

Thanks Bird Friend, very well put!! :clap:

 

[DWRedbird]

I never put much stock in reasons people give for leaving. Mostly politically correct bullshit being spread around.

Dang. That's quite a streaky run of poo you just threw up, or, out. Bunch of posts in a row of your curmudgeon optimism. Bad cheerios today?? Change your dang diaper, dude, and you'll feel lots better. Go to bed with the lady. Or whatever. But good gravy stop taking it out an all of us here. Go watch roller derby or something, brother...

I would caution you not to believe everything you read in the media as truth. You clearly pick and choose what you want to believe on this forum. I would advise you exercise the same discretion elsewhere. If coach and player don’t part in an amicable way, what benefit is there to air the dirty laundry in the media? Most choose to take the high road.

I'm not sure how you stay awake most days because the energy it must take to flout your level of arrogance astounds and exhausts me when I read it.

For what its worth, there is no conspiracy on this one, and you got caught talking out of your fart box. Johnny wasn't run off, he chose to leave, and as he matured he regretted that decision.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Hill was the only player I ever noticed Dan benching due to a technical, in one of Dan’s famous choose to lose games. When building culture, why would only Hill be disciplined in this manner? Makes a good case that Hill was “run off” the team by Muller.

Hill has said HE regretted choosing to leave ISU. Dan tried to talk him into staying. Dan said that. Hill said that.

And for god’s sake, can we get over the “Dan chose to lose” BS? Dan chose to follow through on a promised punishment if JH was called for a T. Guess what? Hill’s behavior cost us the game. Much like MY’s behavior cost at least one game.

But I guess you’d rather we have players committed to a lack of discipline, a lack of putting team first. You obviously don’t know Dan’s competitive spirit to even suggest he would choose to lose.

Thanks Bird Friend, very well put!! :clap:

Sometimes telling the truth serves no purpose. Not sure how many on this board have survived their own gullibility.

 

[Hamdonger]

I never put much stock in reasons people give for leaving. Mostly politically correct bullshit being spread around.

Dang. That's quite a streaky run of poo you just threw up, or, out. Bunch of posts in a row of your curmudgeon optimism. Bad cheerios today?? Change your dang diaper, dude, and you'll feel lots better. Go to bed with the lady. Or whatever. But good gravy stop taking it out an all of us here. Go watch roller derby or something, brother...

I would caution you not to believe everything you read in the media as truth. You clearly pick and choose what you want to believe on this forum. I would advise you exercise the same discretion elsewhere. If coach and player don’t part in an amicable way, what benefit is there to air the dirty laundry in the media? Most choose to take the high road.

I would caution you not to believe everything you read in the media as truth. Ummm, thanks. I don't. Sat in hundreds of press conferences involving ISU athletics, would listen to a coach speak, and then read a distorted impression of that the next day in a local or regional paper. Learned that lesson 25 yrs ago.
You clearly pick and choose what you want to believe on this forum. OhhhhMgeeeeeeee, Captain Obvious is here!! Don't we all, Mr. Wizard? Stunningly brilliant statement.
I would advise you exercise the same discretion elsewhere. Thanks! I mostly exercise it here regarding YOU!
If Coach and player don't part in an amicable way, what benefit is there to air the dirty laundry in the media? Wait, WHAT?! Are you suffering from Redbirdfan bi-polar disorder?? You were just RIPPING Dan for not being forthcoming about such things. Dude, get with Quinn immediately and have him give you your meds!!
Most choose to take the high road. What the hek do you know about the high road????? You take it about 1out of 100 times. And if your version of the high road is like, for real, the actual high road...dude, I am IMMEDIATELY headed to the low road. Cause you'll dive in front of me, slam on your brakes, and next thing I know I'm getting a fault claim from your insurance company.

 

[Adunk33]

Hill was the only player I ever noticed Dan benching due to a technical, in one of Dan’s famous choose to lose games. When building culture, why would only Hill be disciplined in this manner? Makes a good case that Hill was “run off” the team by Muller.

Hill has said HE regretted choosing to leave ISU. Dan tried to talk him into staying. Dan said that. Hill said that.

And for god’s sake, can we get over the “Dan chose to lose” BS? Dan chose to follow through on a promised punishment if JH was called for a T. Guess what? Hill’s behavior cost us the game. Much like MY’s behavior cost at least one game.

But I guess you’d rather we have players committed to a lack of discipline, a lack of putting team first. You obviously don’t know Dan’s competitive spirit to even suggest he would choose to lose.

Thanks Bird Friend, very well put!! :clap:

I'm sorry for mentioning Johnny Hill.

 

[Hamdonger]

The point, ISUFan1...is that I think you're a good well-educated sports fan dude but you play a colossal prick here on Redbirdfan and I think you rather enjoy the trollish experience!

Could it be that you're a wannabe troll who just likes to stir sht here on the board and have orgasmic reactions in reading various responses to your created troll?? I think so. And you're quite good at it! :clap:

Outside of that...hey, we good, man?? Let's do dinner at 6 tonight...

 

[Redbird Alum 2004]

What about screwing over the rest of the team by denying them an NCAA trip? It’s a team sport. Romine is part of the team. But you want to serve the need of 1 at the expense of the rest. The objective is to win.

Must you hate everything ISU?

Priority on winning is hating on ISU?

No it's your priority of hating on kids who haven't seen the floor yet or who you don't feel worthy of your support. You ragged on Paris Lee and he was MVC poy. Btw you can support players and still want to win. If not playing Romine for a small part of last season can get us three years instead of two then that is a win for the team.

 

[bb fan]

Great post, Bird Friend.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Must you hate everything ISU?

Priority on winning is hating on ISU?

No it's your priority of hating on kids who haven't seen the floor yet or who you don't feel worthy of your support. You ragged on Paris Lee and he was MVC poy. Btw you can support players and still want to win. If not playing Romine for a small part of last season can get us three years instead of two then that is a win for the team.

Evidence of PLee ragging?

 

[Redbird Alum 2004]

Must you hate everything ISU?

Priority on winning is hating on ISU?

Of course, because some don’t care. They show up, eat popcorn...and call themselves big redbirdfan fans...hang with their clique. They could care less if we win...as long as they have a good time. That’s fine...I have no problem with that. But, for me it’s about winning and the success of the program...not just my social hour.

Yeah I am not one of those people. I want ISU to be great. I understand though that you have to build something not just wish it to happen. When you start a company it isn't instantly great. There are ups and downs while you build what you envision. So you can either support the process or demand winning with no plan on how to get there. If you don't know me them don't tell me I am only there for social hour.

 

[Hamdonger]

Sometimes telling the truth serves no purpose. Not sure how many on this board have survived their own gullibility.

The truth is fine and you bring up many valid points. It's the sensationalized propaganda that you mix into your truth. It's like the dude that has a little coffee with his cream...

 

[SgtHulka]

 

[Hamdonger]

I love popcorn. :mrgreen:

 

[Redbird Alum 2004]

Priority on winning is hating on ISU?

No it's your priority of hating on kids who haven't seen the floor yet or who you don't feel worthy of your support. You ragged on Paris Lee and he was MVC poy. Btw you can support players and still want to win. If not playing Romine for a small part of last season can get us three years instead of two then that is a win for the team.

Evidence of PLee ragging?

Nope on old board

 

[bb fan]

Birdfriend72, I think you pretty much described 90% of all fans for all teams for all sports. I don't agree with a lot of posters here, but I doubt that many of our posters fit your description. Wasting time posting on a site like this shows a pretty significant emotional investment. Something 99% percent of a team's fans never would do. Sometimes I do think Redbird fans that go to the games are generally more invested and care more than most fans that attend games, because there is no alcohol sold at our games. Seems when I go the Peoria Civic Center, or any pro venue, that is a pretty big reason many fans are there.

 

[redneckredbird]

Hill has said HE regretted choosing to leave ISU. Dan tried to talk him into staying. Dan said that. Hill said that.

And for god’s sake, can we get over the “Dan chose to lose” BS? Dan chose to follow through on a promised punishment if JH was called for a T. Guess what? Hill’s behavior cost us the game. Much like MY’s behavior cost at least one game.

But I guess you’d rather we have players committed to a lack of discipline, a lack of putting team first. You obviously don’t know Dan’s competitive spirit to even suggest he would choose to lose.

Thanks Bird Friend, very well put!! :clap:

I'm sorry for mentioning Johnny Hill.

Haha my bad too! I guess I escalated things on accident. I know that article was posted on the previous forum so when u said his name I had that on my mind.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Have you seen him play?

No, but we know what your eye for talent is. I want to be better than mediocre. If Romine was good enough to help...he would have played last year. If he was running with the 1st team and dominating like some say...he wouldn’t have been the water boy. Unless, Muller wanted to lose.

I’ve not seen him play. So I can’t tell you how much, or if, he’s improved since high school. I just find interesting that one can be so certain one knows the talent level of someone they’ve never seen play.

If information wasn’t “leaked” that indicated Romine was healthy enough to play, but wasn’t able to see a single minute on the court, then he’s either severely overrated or, as someone just said, Muller wanted to lose. I kinda doubt Muller wanted to lose.
Honestly, if there is another explanation, please enlighten us.
Until then, here we go with another “savior” that no one knows anything about that is guaranteed to take us to the promise land.

 

[BirdsEyeView]

You all are trying to control the uncontrollable. In Muller we trust. He knows what he has in Romine (and why he didn't play), Dixon and Idowu.

If anything, Romine & Idowu > N'Diaye physically.....goes a long way against Krutwig and Pippen