King David gone

[cpacmel]

Speaking of waiver2 and exemptions, anyone remember Mike Vandello?

http://www.goredbirds.com/news/2008/4/30/043008aab_729.aspx

 

[Trey_Guidry4three]

That's your "opinion"? You're "right" I'm sure missing 3 months of practice time each year would have no impact on a players performance. That's why EC came in after his "injuries" and set the conference on their collective ears. "Thanks"

Seems like you can't "accept the fact he sucked" and you don't accept "reality ". "Thank you and God bless"

Your opinion is he sucked. That is not a fact. Please don’t conflate your opinions with reality.

So everything you have ever posted on this message board is fact? Lmao some of the people on here just aren't in touch with reality with respects to isu basketball. Don't tell me your opinion...only facts when it comes to someone who was worse than Andy Strandmark... oh wait that's an opinion? Or is it? I'll leave it up to the "fact only guy"

 

[JHBird]

I think the fact that the coach didn't put Romine in for even a minute tells us something. He probably is hoping for another year of eligibility even though he never said it. There had to be a few games where we had a comfortable lead at the end, and he still didn't get put in. Why not see what he could do? On the other side of the coin he probably wasn't performing at a super high level in practice to where the coach just had to use him, etc. So next year we'll see if he's any good. It won't take much to exceed DN.

 

[Redbird28]

What's next? Are we going to compare him to Sean Riley?

 

[WoodlandWarrior]

Rob Gibbons, where are you when we need you? Brian Kern?

 

[DaveBird10]

How about Rich Beyers? Transfer big who can step out and hit the 3. I think this thread went wide left a while ago.


Best of luck to King David.

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[Chi-bird]

Good luck, David. Thank you for your efforts and being a great student athlete and teammate.

 

[Bird Friend]

No, but we know what your eye for talent is. I want to be better than mediocre. If Romine was good enough to help...he would have played last year. If he was running with the 1st team and dominating like some say...he wouldn’t have been the water boy. Unless, Muller wanted to lose.

I’ve not seen him play. So I can’t tell you how much, or if, he’s improved since high school. I just find interesting that one can be so certain one knows the talent level of someone they’ve never seen play.

If information wasn’t “leaked” that indicated Romine was healthy enough to play, but wasn’t able to see a single minute on the court, then he’s either severely overrated or, as someone just said, Muller wanted to lose. I kinda doubt Muller wanted to lose.
Honestly, if there is another explanation, please enlighten us.
Until then, here we go with another “savior” that no one knows anything about that is guaranteed to take us to the promise land.

So assumptions are equivalent to enlightenment? You haven't seen him play. You don't know the reasoning why Dan didn't play him. You don't even know what forced Romine to leave the team for a while. Yet you make your assumptions to come to your own conclusions.

Maybe he's really good. But I'm not saying he's good. Maybe he's really bad. But I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying I'm not willing to make assumptions like you have, which are the stuff of conspiracy theories.

 

[Bird Friend]

Seems like you can't "accept the fact he sucked" and you don't accept "reality ". "Thank you and God bless"

Your opinion is he sucked. That is not a fact. Please don’t conflate your opinions with reality.

So everything you have ever posted on this message board is fact? Lmao some of the people on here just aren't in touch with reality with respects to isu basketball. Don't tell me your opinion...only facts when it comes to someone who was worse than Andy Strandmark... oh wait that's an opinion? Or is it? I'll leave it up to the "fact only guy"

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it? I believe you are the one touting what you've said are facts and reality. And what in the hell does Andy Strandmark have to do with this discussion? I think that's a step further into what I perceive to be a sketchy view of reality.

 

[WeLoveTheBirds]

Why can't we all just get along!!
Pissing match over the internet might be the human race's most important accomplishment.

Go Redbirds!

 

[Atrey22]

If not playing Romine for a small part of last season can get us three years instead of two then that is a win for the team.

+1...

 

[CaliRdBrd]

I’ve not seen him play. So I can’t tell you how much, or if, he’s improved since high school. I just find interesting that one can be so certain one knows the talent level of someone they’ve never seen play.

If information wasn’t “leaked” that indicated Romine was healthy enough to play, but wasn’t able to see a single minute on the court, then he’s either severely overrated or, as someone just said, Muller wanted to lose. I kinda doubt Muller wanted to lose.
Honestly, if there is another explanation, please enlighten us.
Until then, here we go with another “savior” that no one knows anything about that is guaranteed to take us to the promise land.

So assumptions are equivalent to enlightenment? You haven't seen him play. You don't know the reasoning why Dan didn't play him. You don't even know what forced Romine to leave the team for a while. Yet you make your assumptions to come to your own conclusions.

Maybe he's really good. But I'm not saying he's good. Maybe he's really bad. But I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying I'm not willing to make assumptions like you have, which are the stuff of conspiracy theories.

I think you’re confusing “conspiracy theory” with “fact”...
Fact - Muller mentioned Romine was healthy enough to play and it was up to him (Romine) if he wanted to see the court.
Fact- He never saw the court despite Muller saying he was able and ready to play

From these statements, by our head coach no less, I assumed that he was either not good enough. Or something else was going on. I don’t think I’m alone here.
Unlike many others, I also never saw anything (stat-wise, or from whom he was being recruited by out of HS) that made me think he’ll be the second coming of Osiris
No worries..continue to parade about on your high horse of misinterpretation

 

[Bird Friend]

If information wasn’t “leaked” that indicated Romine was healthy enough to play, but wasn’t able to see a single minute on the court, then he’s either severely overrated or, as someone just said, Muller wanted to lose. I kinda doubt Muller wanted to lose.
Honestly, if there is another explanation, please enlighten us.
Until then, here we go with another “savior” that no one knows anything about that is guaranteed to take us to the promise land.

So assumptions are equivalent to enlightenment? You haven't seen him play. You don't know the reasoning why Dan didn't play him. You don't even know what forced Romine to leave the team for a while. Yet you make your assumptions to come to your own conclusions.

Maybe he's really good. But I'm not saying he's good. Maybe he's really bad. But I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying I'm not willing to make assumptions like you have, which are the stuff of conspiracy theories.

I think you’re confusing “conspiracy theory” with “fact”...
Fact - Muller mentioned Romine was healthy enough to play and it was up to him (Romine) if he wanted to see the court.
Fact- He never saw the court despite Muller saying he was able and ready to play

From these statements, by our head coach no less, I assumed that he was either not good enough. Or something else was going on. I don’t think I’m alone here.
Unlike many others, I also never saw anything (stat-wise, or from whom he was being recruited by out of HS) that made me think he’ll be the second coming of Osiris
No worries..continue to parade about on your high horse of misinterpretation

Like I said, I don't know if he's good or bad. I don't have an opinion on his abilities because I don't have all of the information about his situation, nor have I seen him play. I've never said he's our savior. I've only said that I do not understand how one can assume anything about a player's ability, or lack of, based on what one hears about a player.

In my opinion, counting stats are not good indicators of a player's overall ability, especially coming out of smaller high schools. The stats tell you nothing about the system the kid played in, the quality of the team around him, the quality of the coach, or the quality of the opponents.

So without actually seeing a kid play a few games, in my opinion, you really can't say whether a kid is good, bad, or middlin'. But we've got a lot of posters who think otherwise.

Finally an assumption is not a fact. Who's misinterpreting? Who's making assumptions based on limited objective information? Who's weaving a tale to fill gaps in knowledge?

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

So assumptions are equivalent to enlightenment? You haven't seen him play. You don't know the reasoning why Dan didn't play him. You don't even know what forced Romine to leave the team for a while. Yet you make your assumptions to come to your own conclusions.

Maybe he's really good. But I'm not saying he's good. Maybe he's really bad. But I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying I'm not willing to make assumptions like you have, which are the stuff of conspiracy theories.

I think you’re confusing “conspiracy theory” with “fact”...
Fact - Muller mentioned Romine was healthy enough to play and it was up to him (Romine) if he wanted to see the court.
Fact- He never saw the court despite Muller saying he was able and ready to play

From these statements, by our head coach no less, I assumed that he was either not good enough. Or something else was going on. I don’t think I’m alone here.
Unlike many others, I also never saw anything (stat-wise, or from whom he was being recruited by out of HS) that made me think he’ll be the second coming of Osiris
No worries..continue to parade about on your high horse of misinterpretation

Like I said, I don't know if he's good or bad. I don't have an opinion on his abilities because I don't have all of the information about his situation, nor have I seen him play. I've never said he's our savior. I've only said that I do not understand how one can assume anything about a player's ability, or lack of, based on what one hears about a player.

In my opinion, counting stats are not good indicators of a player's overall ability, especially coming out of smaller high schools. The stats tell you nothing about the system the kid played in, the quality of the team around him, the quality of the coach, or the quality of the opponents.

So without actually seeing a kid play a few games, in my opinion, you really can't say whether a kid is good, bad, or middlin'. But we've got a lot of posters who think otherwise.

Finally an assumption is not a fact. Who's misinterpreting? Who's making assumptions based on limited objective information? Who's weaving a tale to fill gaps in knowledge?

Cail, after reading this last post and other posts prior, I suggest you spare yourself of debating someone that some might call an askhole..aka those that call out others as being wrong yet typically do not respond with logic or facts rather they resort to talking about themselves (look at how many I's, me's or my in their posts) or are just asking questions of others.

 

[Trey_Guidry4three]

Your opinion is he sucked. That is not a fact. Please don’t conflate your opinions with reality.

So everything you have ever posted on this message board is fact? Lmao some of the people on here just aren't in touch with reality with respects to isu basketball. Don't tell me your opinion...only facts when it comes to someone who was worse than Andy Strandmark... oh wait that's an opinion? Or is it? I'll leave it up to the "fact only guy"

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it? I believe you are the one touting what you've said are facts and reality. And what in the hell does Andy Strandmark have to do with this discussion? I think that's a step further into what I perceive to be a sketchy view of reality.

You just respond with insults, not "facts".

 

[Trey_Guidry4three]

How about Rich Beyers? Transfer big who can step out and hit the 3. I think this thread went wide left a while ago.


Best of luck to King David.

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Beyers ??? Are you serious dude??

 

[Redbirdalum_15]

You’re in an ISU message board. Get over yourself


I’ve not seen him play. So I can’t tell you how much, or if, he’s improved since high school. I just find interesting that one can be so certain one knows the talent level of someone they’ve never seen play.
[/quote]

If information wasn’t “leaked” that indicated Romine was healthy enough to play, but wasn’t able to see a single minute on the court, then he’s either severely overrated or, as someone just said, Muller wanted to lose. I kinda doubt Muller wanted to lose.
Honestly, if there is another explanation, please enlighten us.
Until then, here we go with another “savior” that no one knows anything about that is guaranteed to take us to the promise land.
[/quote]

So assumptions are equivalent to enlightenment? You haven't seen him play. You don't know the reasoning why Dan didn't play him. You don't even know what forced Romine to leave the team for a while. Yet you make your assumptions to come to your own conclusions.

Maybe he's really good. But I'm not saying he's good. Maybe he's really bad. But I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying I'm not willing to make assumptions like you have, which are the stuff of conspiracy theories.
[/quote]

 

[Redbirdalum_15]

So assumptions are equivalent to enlightenment? You haven't seen him play. You don't know the reasoning why Dan didn't play him. You don't even know what forced Romine to leave the team for a while. Yet you make your assumptions to come to your own conclusions.

Maybe he's really good. But I'm not saying he's good. Maybe he's really bad. But I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying I'm not willing to make assumptions like you have, which are the stuff of conspiracy theories.

I think you’re confusing “conspiracy theory” with “fact”...
Fact - Muller mentioned Romine was healthy enough to play and it was up to him (Romine) if he wanted to see the court.
Fact- He never saw the court despite Muller saying he was able and ready to play

From these statements, by our head coach no less, I assumed that he was either not good enough. Or something else was going on. I don’t think I’m alone here.
Unlike many others, I also never saw anything (stat-wise, or from whom he was being recruited by out of HS) that made me think he’ll be the second coming of Osiris
No worries..continue to parade about on your high horse of misinterpretation

Like I said, I don't know if he's good or bad. I don't have an opinion on his abilities because I don't have all of the information about his situation, nor have I seen him play. I've never said he's our savior. I've only said that I do not understand how one can assume anything about a player's ability, or lack of, based on what one hears about a player.

In my opinion, counting stats are not good indicators of a player's overall ability, especially coming out of smaller high schools. The stats tell you nothing about the system the kid played in, the quality of the team around him, the quality of the coach, or the quality of the opponents.

So without actually seeing a kid play a few games, in my opinion, you really can't say whether a kid is good, bad, or middlin'. But we've got a lot of posters who think otherwise.

Finally an assumption is not a fact. Who's misinterpreting? Who's making assumptions based on limited objective information? Who's weaving a tale to fill gaps in knowledge?

You’re in an ISU message board, get over yourself

 

[Birdman85]

Can the title of this thread be changed to "Junk"?

 

[DaveBird10]

How about Rich Beyers? Transfer big who can step out and hit the 3. I think this thread went wide left a while ago.


Best of luck to King David.

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Beyers ??? Are you serious dude??

No, I'm not serious. I am being sarcastic to the rest of the guys who try to pretend we know what Romine is or isn't bc we don't.

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