At Northern Iowa 1/24

[Redbird Alum 2004]

Think of some of the starts uni has had in conference. This board would be calling for Ben Jacobson's head only to see him get to the second round of the dance. We are in a bad stretch when shots aren't falling. We love and fire by the three. I would rather be cold now and warm up before St Louis. Madison's shot looked so much better tonight. I think his wrist must be feeling better. Taylor has got that freshman wall. Not surprising considering how much he played really on. He will break through it at some point.

 

[DWRedbird]

I drove out to the game and sat right behind the bench where I could see and hear a lot of things I can not see or hear at RBA arena. I have not read anything from the board so some of this may be repeating what you have said. Here are some observations:
- In the second half, the entire second half, the bench was engaged and continued to stay upbeat and trying to get on a roll. Mainly lead by Kewshawn.
- In the first half, we had a good attitude, but just could not get anything to fall, and they could not miss. Our Defense has SOOOO many holes in it.
- Our passing is Horrible!! We miss the opportunity at so many open shots because the pass is thrown to the knees. The defender has time to adjust and it throws off our shooters rhythm.
- Dan NEVER looked at EC in the 2nd half. But EC was always up and first guy at the huddle to listen and be very attentive. With about 3 minutes left, he finally let his guard down and looked disappointed.
- The guys with meat the game pointed out it did not look like Dan got a lot of help from his assistants.
- Koch shoots jump shot free throws. I had noticed this on TV, but find it so weird.
- Romane- He is not going to play. He had on playground shoes, and his movement in pre game and halftime looked like there are some physical issues. Not sure what is up with him.
- In Pre Game, EC could not miss. But as we see so many times with him, he forces so much when in the game.
- If we think our attendance is bad, theirs make us look like a filled house. Their student section was almost non existent.
- I am sure this was talked about, but why did Dan not call a Time out earlier in the 25-0 run?

I thought in a game where we easily could have folded up tent and mailed it in, we fought back and showed a lot of heart! I am a glass half full guy, and took away some positives, but besides our horrible defense, we need to pass the ball much better! We have a lot of work to do over the next month!

The bolded item there is kind of interesting. Did he engage his assistants and they just didn't give him anything or did they just not engage with him at all?

As for the game itself, I thought it was ugly offensively in the first half, but we played much better offensively in the second half. I still think we need to change our overall offensive strategy, and the offensive sets we run, but Muller has run the same offense his entire career I don't think it is changing now.

Defensively, I'm not sure how get the guys to play better. There were flashes in the second half where we looked like a defensive team, but we can't seem to string together more than a minute of a defensive stand. I did notice that everyone was hustling, which was good to see. I'm not sure this year we will ever play defense with our feet, but we still have guys out of position in a zone and we still over rotate. If Dan is coaching this he needs to stop, if it's the guys doing it, I tell them they owe me 100 pushups or 50 full court sprints for every time they are out of position or every time you over rotate. One other thing I've noticed (though I can't tell at away games) is that defensively we don't really ever talk to each other. We don't call out screens, we don't tell each other to switch guys. We just kind of hope that stuff happens, and then in transition we do a lot of pointing. While I don't think its a magical potion, communication would probably go a long way towards helping some.

I agree, but still think Bruninga can develop.

I’m about done waiting on N’Daiye. They came as a package. Time for Fed Ex to pick up the package for return.

I agree. Bruninga has some talent...he just needs to continue to work on his foot work, and bulk up!

That and he needs to find his position. He’s in between a 4 and a 5

I actually like David's talent. I think he has been hurt by the fact that he hasn't played a full year since he has been here, and quite frankly, offensively our sets don't help him. Only thing I wish about him is that he wasn't concerned with getting fouls on defense. If I'm Muller I tell him that I don't care if he fouls out of a couple of games, get more aggressive on the help side defense and get aggressive rebounding.

As for Bruninga, he's a frosh big man who would have benefited from a redshirt year to add some muscle and work on footwork. That said I think he is a Hawkins clone in terms of play style. He is a stretch 4 who by the end of his career is going to drive defenses bonkers trying to figure out whether he is going to shoot threes or post up. Defensively I think he will be fine once he passes the frosh defensive battle that a majority of frosh big men go through. The kid can play though.

 

[redbirdron1]

21 - here's what I'd like to see beginning next season.

Need 9 guys who see floor time who have above avg. foot speed on D. Yes, that's saying some
guys can't b on the squad next year. R defense is just embarrassing. Take the existing squad and come
up with some kind of a minimum time to perform defensive slide drills for extended time and if you don't make the cut.....
time to call momma and dad about son coming home. Sorry.

Evans, Williams and EC must compete against 2 jc's for floor time. R current guys aren't making the grade.

Need a big ass guy down low with Phil. Back to the basket JC I'd guess. Phil has nice stats except he has a 2x
turnover to assist ratio. Disaster handling the ball and we don't want him be a focal point due to FT shooting/handles. Phil's
a junk yard dog who needs to get after Offensive boards.

Now I'm not an advocate of going the JC route but Dan's in trouble and he being COY, Boner Scholar and all - guessing he senses it too.
Got to adjust on the fly and get JC's who are seasoned and blue collar tough. PG who understand pass first mentality and who can actually penetrate and pass - yes,
we have horrible passing skills on this team.

Yes, I'm suggesting 3 new JC's as HS sr's aren't ready. That's five new kids including the 2 bigs we've got coming in. We're already 2 over schollie limit
so that's 5 leaving the program. You say, "oh, we can't continue on this path?" Do you want the alternative of watching the same deal next year???
The 5 guys leaving.....that's tough business but R reigning COY is being paid to make some tough calls. The decisions are pretty evident in several cases
and a certain domino effect may take place so......it's doable.

Tough times = tough decisions and it will be needed.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

21 - here's what I'd like to see beginning next season.

Need 9 guys who see floor time who have above avg. foot speed on D. Yes, that's saying some
guys can't b on the squad next year. R defense is just embarrassing. Take the existing squad and come
up with some kind of a minimum time to perform defensive slide drills for extended time and if you don't make the cut.....
time to call momma and dad about son coming home. Sorry.

Evans, Williams and EC must compete against 2 jc's for floor time. R current guys aren't making the grade.

Need a big ass guy down low with Phil. Back to the basket JC I'd guess. Phil has nice stats except he has a 2x
turnover to assist ratio. Disaster handling the ball and we don't want him be a focal point due to FT shooting/handles. Phil's
a junk yard dog who needs to get after Offensive boards.

Now I'm not an advocate of going the JC route but Dan's in trouble and he being COY, Boner Scholar and all - guessing he senses it too.
Got to adjust on the fly and get JC's who are seasoned and blue collar tough. PG who understand pass first mentality and who can actually penetrate and pass - yes,
we have horrible passing skills on this team.

Yes, I'm suggesting 3 new JC's as HS sr's aren't ready. That's five new kids including the 2 bigs we've got coming in. We're already 2 over schollie limit
so that's 5 leaving the program. You say, "oh, we can't continue on this path?" Do you want the alternative of watching the same deal next year???
The 5 guys leaving.....that's tough business but R reigning COY is being paid to make some tough calls. The decisions are pretty evident in several cases

Tough times = tough decisions and it will be needed.

We're going to need names.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOjSEW09NxE

 

[DaveBird10]

I'm as upset as everyone but I let the night let cool down and think about it. This is a rebuilding year and many guys are adjusting to new roles.

Some if you, you can't please. Last year DM is COY and ppl are saying lock him up. Isu does that and now it's a rebuilding year and all they are struggling and all of a sudden it's doom and gloom DM needs to go.

In DM I trust in the Redbirds I will always cheetah for!

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[DaveBird10]

I'm as upset as everyone but I let the night let cool down and think about it. This is a rebuilding year and many guys are adjusting to new roles.

Some if you, you can't please. Last year DM is COY and ppl are saying lock him up. Isu does that and now it's a rebuilding year and all they are struggling and all of a sudden it's doom and gloom DM needs to go.

In DM I trust in the Redbirds I will always cheetah for!

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Cheer for!!

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[DoubleDeuce]

What change do you think is going to happen? Playing different guys? What do you want? Muller won’t get fired if we lose every game the rest of the year.

I was thinking the same thing...it's not like we improve our draft position by losing. If anything we hurt the team's image and hurt recruiting.

 

[V Boy]

So just saying we showed a little heart is "sugarcoating" it. Not surprising you think that. A slight glimmer of being positive is disturbing to some.

Don't sweat the critics, bb fan. It's fine to acknowledge the positives as well as the negatives. You're a good man!

I agree with this. It's all a matter of perspective. Madison nailed some threes last night. I was happy to see that. The team kept fighting and battled back in the second half. I like that.

There are so many ups and downs with this team and the fact that anyone is surprised by that is surprising in itself. Between graduations, injuries, and the first taste of D1 basketball for a number of them, the rollercoaster ride was to be expected.

I mentioned to coach at one of the coach's shows that I felt Elijah would be fine after some game time. He said Elijah would be more than fine. I'm inclined to believe the reigning MVC COY.

Pieces are there. Shots need to start falling and defense needs to keep improving.

Keep fighting the good fight bbfan.

The pieces are there? Which pieces exactly do you think are there?

We give up like 80 ppg to very average opponents.

We have kids playing 20-25 mpg that would not have scholarships on most Horizon team rosters.

We turn it over a ton absent pressure D.

We are last in rebounding despite have all of this “length”.

I think we might last in shooting but we keep chucking it.

Let’s be clear. If you are 28-7 and the next year you are something like 15-17.....that is not ok. That is a huge lost opportunity to build your program.

What is of more concern is that I don’t think you can see a clear pathway out of it right now.

Porter Moser....the guy ISU fired.....is basically destroying Muller in Recruiting right now. He is out-recruiting him so badly His in-game coaching problems don’t even matter.

Krutwig>Bruninga
Williamson>Clarance
Townes>Copeland

Those 3 Loyola new players average 27 and 12. Our guys....6 and 3. Nobody is sitting out for them. They are immediate high-impact players.

Half of Muller’s new players he brought in are either hurt all the time, didn’t qualify or can’t even get on the court for a team that has 2 starting positions that are WIDE OPEN for the taking.

This isn’t about fighting the good fight and it has nothing to do with whether BB Fan is a “good man” (I’m sure he’s a fine lad).

This has everything to do with recruiting (or lack thereof).

Do you think in a million years Gregg Marshall would ever be in position where he is forced to play some of the kids we are playing? Never. Would never happen. Ever.

 

[Redbird28]

21 - here's what I'd like to see beginning next season.

Need 9 guys who see floor time who have above avg. foot speed on D. Yes, that's saying some
guys can't b on the squad next year. R defense is just embarrassing. Take the existing squad and come
up with some kind of a minimum time to perform defensive slide drills for extended time and if you don't make the cut.....
time to call momma and dad about son coming home. Sorry.

Evans, Williams and EC must compete against 2 jc's for floor time. R current guys aren't making the grade.

Need a big ass guy down low with Phil. Back to the basket JC I'd guess. Phil has nice stats except he has a 2x
turnover to assist ratio. Disaster handling the ball and we don't want him be a focal point due to FT shooting/handles. Phil's
a junk yard dog who needs to get after Offensive boards.

Now I'm not an advocate of going the JC route but Dan's in trouble and he being COY, Boner Scholar and all - guessing he senses it too.
Got to adjust on the fly and get JC's who are seasoned and blue collar tough. PG who understand pass first mentality and who can actually penetrate and pass - yes,
we have horrible passing skills on this team.

Yes, I'm suggesting 3 new JC's as HS sr's aren't ready. That's five new kids including the 2 bigs we've got coming in. We're already 2 over schollie limit
so that's 5 leaving the program. You say, "oh, we can't continue on this path?" Do you want the alternative of watching the same deal next year???
The 5 guys leaving.....that's tough business but R reigning COY is being paid to make some tough calls. The decisions are pretty evident in several cases
and a certain domino effect may take place so......it's doable.

Tough times = tough decisions and it will be needed.

This will never happen unless it's the player deciding to go play elsewhere. Pulling scholarships is a deathblow to recruiting. You're basically saying our commitment to you is worth nothing.

After you do this one time, why would any coveted HS player ever take the chance that if they have a hiccup in their development after making the biggest decision of their life that they'd get their scholarship ripped from them and suddenly have no where to play / have to pay for their own school?

The only way this can even remotely happen is for HCDM to not allow x player to sniff any floor time. Then it's up to the player whether he's going to work hard to challenge for floor time or take the easier path and walk on his own.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

I'm as upset as everyone but I let the night let cool down and think about it. This is a rebuilding year and many guys are adjusting to new roles.

Some if you, you can't please. Last year DM is COY and ppl are saying lock him up. Isu does that and now it's a rebuilding year and all they are struggling and all of a sudden it's doom and gloom DM needs to go.

In DM I trust in the Redbirds I will always cheetah for!

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If you're going to make a cheetah reference, then we better Dance soon.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Don't sweat the critics, bb fan. It's fine to acknowledge the positives as well as the negatives. You're a good man!

I agree with this. It's all a matter of perspective. Madison nailed some threes last night. I was happy to see that. The team kept fighting and battled back in the second half. I like that.

There are so many ups and downs with this team and the fact that anyone is surprised by that is surprising in itself. Between graduations, injuries, and the first taste of D1 basketball for a number of them, the rollercoaster ride was to be expected.

I mentioned to coach at one of the coach's shows that I felt Elijah would be fine after some game time. He said Elijah would be more than fine. I'm inclined to believe the reigning MVC COY.

Pieces are there. Shots need to start falling and defense needs to keep improving.

Keep fighting the good fight bbfan.

The pieces are there? Which pieces exactly do you think are there?

We give up like 80 ppg to very average opponents.

We have kids playing 20-25 mpg that would not have scholarships on most Horizon team rosters.

We turn it over a ton absent pressure D.

We are last in rebounding despite have all of this “length”.

I think we might last in shooting but we keep chucking it.

Let’s be clear. If you are 28-7 and the next year you are something like 15-17.....that is not ok. That is a huge lost opportunity to build your program.

What is of more concern is that I don’t think you can see a clear pathway out of it right now.

Porter Moser....the guy ISU fired.....is basically destroying Muller in Recruiting right now. He is out-recruiting him so badly His in-game coaching problems don’t even matter.

Krutwig>Bruninga
Williamson>Clarance
Townes>Copeland

Those 3 Loyola new players average 27 and 12. Our guys....6 and 3. Nobody is sitting out for them. They are immediate high-impact players.

Half of Muller’s new players he brought in are either hurt all the time, didn’t qualify or can’t even get on the court for a team that has 2 starting positions that are WIDE OPEN for the taking.

This isn’t about fighting the good fight and it has nothing to do with whether BB Fan is a “good man” (I’m sure he’s a fine lad).

This has everything to do with recruiting (or lack thereof).

Do you think in a million years Gregg Marshall would ever be in position where he is forced to play some of the kids we are playing? Never. Would never happen. Ever.

Bolded above .... it may have already cost Dan his prized 2019 recruit.

And, I'm fine with Dan staying, but he needs to get better players. Or get assistants that can. We have 3 studs, and just lost 3 from last year's team. It's possible to get good players. Dan can succeed here, but needs to upgrade recruiting, and cut down the swings and misses.

 

[Redbird Alum 2004]

Our weakness is our bench. It shows big when our starters aren't healthy. Evans looks like he is moving on the court better but still limping. Madison has knee and wrist issues. His shot looked much better yesterday so I am hoping his wrist is healing. Milik has a sprained toe but you wouldn't have guessed by the way he played yesterday. Muller wants to shorten the rotation but can't because these guys aren't 100%. Add to that Clarence who is way behind the curve due to his injury. He is having a freshman year like Evans did. As these guys get healthy they need to blow out a team so they can get some confidence back. I am not ready to give up on this year. Is this a bad stretch? Dear God yes. But I think there is hope that we can put things back together. The team hasn't quit yet. If they had they wouldn't have played so hard in the second half. Patience Redbird fans, patience.

 

[JHBird]

Rock meet bottom

Trust me. Bottom is still a long way down yet.

Good point. As pathetic as this is, probably going to get worse.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I fear playing in Peoria on Valentine's day. Bradley has won 13 in a row there, and just crushed the Bears.

 

[ricohill]

Don't sweat the critics, bb fan. It's fine to acknowledge the positives as well as the negatives. You're a good man!

I agree with this. It's all a matter of perspective. Madison nailed some threes last night. I was happy to see that. The team kept fighting and battled back in the second half. I like that.

There are so many ups and downs with this team and the fact that anyone is surprised by that is surprising in itself. Between graduations, injuries, and the first taste of D1 basketball for a number of them, the rollercoaster ride was to be expected.

I mentioned to coach at one of the coach's shows that I felt Elijah would be fine after some game time. He said Elijah would be more than fine. I'm inclined to believe the reigning MVC COY.

Pieces are there. Shots need to start falling and defense needs to keep improving.

Keep fighting the good fight bbfan.

The pieces are there? Which pieces exactly do you think are there?

We give up like 80 ppg to very average opponents.

We have kids playing 20-25 mpg that would not have scholarships on most Horizon team rosters.

We turn it over a ton absent pressure D.

We are last in rebounding despite have all of this “length”.

I think we might last in shooting but we keep chucking it.

Let’s be clear. If you are 28-7 and the next year you are something like 15-17.....that is not ok. That is a huge lost opportunity to build your program.

What is of more concern is that I don’t think you can see a clear pathway out of it right now.

Porter Moser....the guy ISU fired.....is basically destroying Muller in Recruiting right now. He is out-recruiting him so badly His in-game coaching problems don’t even matter.

Krutwig>Bruninga
Williamson>Clarance
Townes>Copeland

Those 3 Loyola new players average 27 and 12. Our guys....6 and 3. Nobody is sitting out for them. They are immediate high-impact players.

Half of Muller’s new players he brought in are either hurt all the time, didn’t qualify or can’t even get on the court for a team that has 2 starting positions that are WIDE OPEN for the taking.

This isn’t about fighting the good fight and it has nothing to do with whether BB Fan is a “good man” (I’m sure he’s a fine lad).

This has everything to do with recruiting (or lack thereof).

Do you think in a million years Gregg Marshall would ever be in position where he is forced to play some of the kids we are playing? Never. Would never happen. Ever.

It was brought up in another post that our assistant coaches weren’t doing anything last night at the game. We were lucky to have Torrey and Dana on the staff to start. I don’t think people realize how great they were.

Yak gets a lot of hype (which I think is overblown because he wasn’t doing much until those guys moved on) and gets credit for their recruits by staying around after they left.

Our recruiting has dropped off and it has to change quickly to turn this around.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Our weakness is our bench. It shows big when our starters aren't healthy. Evans looks like he is moving on the court better but still limping. Madison has knee and wrist issues. His shot looked much better yesterday so I am hoping his wrist is healing. Milik has a sprained toe but you wouldn't have guessed by the way he played yesterday. Muller wants to shorten the rotation but can't because these guys aren't 100%. Add to that Clarence who is way behind the curve due to his injury. He is having a freshman year like Evans did. As these guys get healthy they need to blow out a team so they can get some confidence back. I am not ready to give up on this year. Is this a bad stretch? Dear God yes. But I think there is hope that we can put things back together. The team hasn't quit yet. If they had they wouldn't have played so hard in the second half. Patience Redbird fans, patience.

I echo Vboy comment that we have 2 WIDE OPEN starting spots. So I contend our weakness extends beyond our bench.

 

[bb fan]

Davebird, some here just don't wanna hear a calm voice of reason. We lose two games we have lost most every season for the last decade, but it's time to burn it all down because our coach stinks all of the sudden, our players stink all of the sudden (they are all leaving, anyway, according to some of these posters) and everything is now awful.

Who knows what's up. But there is not enough yet for go off the ledge.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

I agree with this. It's all a matter of perspective. Madison nailed some threes last night. I was happy to see that. The team kept fighting and battled back in the second half. I like that.

There are so many ups and downs with this team and the fact that anyone is surprised by that is surprising in itself. Between graduations, injuries, and the first taste of D1 basketball for a number of them, the rollercoaster ride was to be expected.

I mentioned to coach at one of the coach's shows that I felt Elijah would be fine after some game time. He said Elijah would be more than fine. I'm inclined to believe the reigning MVC COY.

Pieces are there. Shots need to start falling and defense needs to keep improving.

Keep fighting the good fight bbfan.

The pieces are there? Which pieces exactly do you think are there?

We give up like 80 ppg to very average opponents.

We have kids playing 20-25 mpg that would not have scholarships on most Horizon team rosters.

We turn it over a ton absent pressure D.

We are last in rebounding despite have all of this “length”.

I think we might last in shooting but we keep chucking it.

Let’s be clear. If you are 28-7 and the next year you are something like 15-17.....that is not ok. That is a huge lost opportunity to build your program.

What is of more concern is that I don’t think you can see a clear pathway out of it right now.

Porter Moser....the guy ISU fired.....is basically destroying Muller in Recruiting right now. He is out-recruiting him so badly His in-game coaching problems don’t even matter.

Krutwig>Bruninga
Williamson>Clarance
Townes>Copeland

Those 3 Loyola new players average 27 and 12. Our guys....6 and 3. Nobody is sitting out for them. They are immediate high-impact players.

Half of Muller’s new players he brought in are either hurt all the time, didn’t qualify or can’t even get on the court for a team that has 2 starting positions that are WIDE OPEN for the taking.

This isn’t about fighting the good fight and it has nothing to do with whether BB Fan is a “good man” (I’m sure he’s a fine lad).

This has everything to do with recruiting (or lack thereof).

Do you think in a million years Gregg Marshall would ever be in position where he is forced to play some of the kids we are playing? Never. Would never happen. Ever.

It was brought up in another post that our assistant coaches weren’t doing anything last night at the game. We were lucky to have Torrey and Dana on the staff to start. I don’t think people realize how great they were.

Yak gets a lot of hype (which I think is overblown because he wasn’t doing much until those guys moved on) and gets credit for their recruits by staying around after they left.

Our recruiting has dropped off and it has to change quickly to turn this around.

Have to give Reese, Collins, and Mullins time to prove they can recruit. Other than Reese's 2 years, the other guys are brand new to ISU. And Collins already helped ISU land Dixon. And FWIW, Reese has a tall youngster that plays, so lets not be in a rush to run him off until his son is a senior like Anthony Beane's.

 

[ricohill]

Our weakness is our bench. It shows big when our starters aren't healthy. Evans looks like he is moving on the court better but still limping. Madison has knee and wrist issues. His shot looked much better yesterday so I am hoping his wrist is healing. Milik has a sprained toe but you wouldn't have guessed by the way he played yesterday. Muller wants to shorten the rotation but can't because these guys aren't 100%. Add to that Clarence who is way behind the curve due to his injury. He is having a freshman year like Evans did. As these guys get healthy they need to blow out a team so they can get some confidence back. I am not ready to give up on this year. Is this a bad stretch? Dear God yes. But I think there is hope that we can put things back together. The team hasn't quit yet. If they had they wouldn't have played so hard in the second half. Patience Redbird fans, patience.

I echo Vboy comment that we have 2 WIDE OPEN starting spots. So I contend our weakness extends beyond our bench.

Probably 3 or 4 after the off-season

 

[IHateWSU]

There was a tremendous amount of communication on defense (at least in the first half when I was close to it). The bench was also calling out helping on screens and where to rotate to. The problem is that the first half is when our D stunk it up.

I thought Taylor looked better last night defending Koch. Not saying he looked real good, but much better. Sitting that close to the action, it is unbelievable how physical the game is underneath the basket.

 

[ricohill]

The pieces are there? Which pieces exactly do you think are there?

We give up like 80 ppg to very average opponents.

We have kids playing 20-25 mpg that would not have scholarships on most Horizon team rosters.

We turn it over a ton absent pressure D.

We are last in rebounding despite have all of this “length”.

I think we might last in shooting but we keep chucking it.

Let’s be clear. If you are 28-7 and the next year you are something like 15-17.....that is not ok. That is a huge lost opportunity to build your program.

What is of more concern is that I don’t think you can see a clear pathway out of it right now.

Porter Moser....the guy ISU fired.....is basically destroying Muller in Recruiting right now. He is out-recruiting him so badly His in-game coaching problems don’t even matter.

Krutwig>Bruninga
Williamson>Clarance
Townes>Copeland

Those 3 Loyola new players average 27 and 12. Our guys....6 and 3. Nobody is sitting out for them. They are immediate high-impact players.

Half of Muller’s new players he brought in are either hurt all the time, didn’t qualify or can’t even get on the court for a team that has 2 starting positions that are WIDE OPEN for the taking.

This isn’t about fighting the good fight and it has nothing to do with whether BB Fan is a “good man” (I’m sure he’s a fine lad).

This has everything to do with recruiting (or lack thereof).

Do you think in a million years Gregg Marshall would ever be in position where he is forced to play some of the kids we are playing? Never. Would never happen. Ever.

It was brought up in another post that our assistant coaches weren’t doing anything last night at the game. We were lucky to have Torrey and Dana on the staff to start. I don’t think people realize how great they were.

Yak gets a lot of hype (which I think is overblown because he wasn’t doing much until those guys moved on) and gets credit for their recruits by staying around after they left.

Our recruiting has dropped off and it has to change quickly to turn this around.

Have to give Reese, Collins, and Mullins time to prove they can recruit. Other than Reese's 2 years, the other guys are brand new to ISU. And Collin's already helped ISU land Dixon. And FWIW, Reese has a tall youngster that plays, so lets not be in a rush to run him off until his son is a senior like Anthony Beane's.

This is the best staff he’s had since he started. Collins is the best recruiter since Dana and Torrey. Mullins obviously is connected to the Wolves.

My issue was there was a huge gap from this first couple years to where the top recruiter was Yak and the other assistants brought nothing. We are seeing the work of that right now.