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Elijah Clarance had no pre-season practices or physical training. He has played a total of 83 minutes of D1 basketball. If I had to choose between Elijah Clarance after seeing him play only 83 minutes, and what on I saw from Nic Moore through November of his freshman year, I would take Elijah Clarance.

As for William Tinsley, I think next season he is going to be a valuable player coming off the bench. Sometimes it takes JUCO’s until February, or even into their senior year before their game starts clicking. I have confidence in him. I like his hustle, and I think his offense is going to come around.

Taylor Bruninga may not become an All-Valley player, but he is going to be good enough to help this team into The NCAA Tournament before he leaves.

Isaac Gassman is a walk-on, and I think he is very good attribute to this team only being a walk-on.

I am hoping that EC, WT, & TB are all back on scholarship’s as Redbirds for the remainder of their college career. And I hope Isaac Gassman remains here as a walk-on for the rest of his college career.
JMO, but I liked what I saw in Nic Moore over what I’m seeing from Clarance at this point in their freshmen years. If Clarance ever gets to the level of Nic’s freshmen year, I’ll be happy with that.

You knew that Nic was going to be that good of a player after 83 minutes. Tell me what you saw in those first 83 minutes that was better than what you have seen in Elijah? Better ball handler? Better defender? Better passer? Better shooter?

Remember, you can’t use what you saw after November of Nic’s Freshman year to judge.

IMO I saw nothing early on in Nic that lead me to believe that he would be the player he became. And if Elijah is even close to being the player Nic was, then give me the 6-4 Elijah over the 5-9 Nic.

I know some on here only seemed to appreciate the late season Nic Moore, when he starting scoring in bunches. Personally, I liked his first 83 minutes from a leadership & floor general perspective. I saw a player who was confident and in control of the offense. Also immediately saw his ability to pass players open, especially Jackie. And gutsy passes most wouldn't attempt, let alone complete. Those traits are far more important in a point guard than the ability to score. So I was happy. And the late season scoring was certainly a nice bonus. He was certainly not a late season phenomenon in my view.
 

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RedbirdSoxFan said:
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Elijah Clarance had no pre-season practices or physical training. He has played a total of 83 minutes of D1 basketball. If I had to choose between Elijah Clarance after seeing him play only 83 minutes, and what on I saw from Nic Moore through November of his freshman year, I would take Elijah Clarance.

As for William Tinsley, I think next season he is going to be a valuable player coming off the bench. Sometimes it takes JUCO’s until February, or even into their senior year before their game starts clicking. I have confidence in him. I like his hustle, and I think his offense is going to come around.

Taylor Bruninga may not become an All-Valley player, but he is going to be good enough to help this team into The NCAA Tournament before he leaves.

Isaac Gassman is a walk-on, and I think he is very good attribute to this team only being a walk-on.

I am hoping that EC, WT, & TB are all back on scholarship’s as Redbirds for the remainder of their college career. And I hope Isaac Gassman remains here as a walk-on for the rest of his college career.
JMO, but I liked what I saw in Nic Moore over what I’m seeing from Clarance at this point in their freshmen years. If Clarance ever gets to the level of Nic’s freshmen year, I’ll be happy with that.

You knew that Nic was going to be that good of a player after 83 minutes. Tell me what you saw in those first 83 minutes that was better than what you have seen in Elijah? Better ball handler? Better defender? Better passer? Better shooter?

Remember, you can’t use what you saw after November of Nic’s Freshman year to judge.

IMO I saw nothing early on in Nic that lead me to believe that he would be the player he became. And if Elijah is even close to being the player Nic was, then give me the 6-4 Elijah over the 5-9 Nic.
I know some on here only seemed to appreciate the late season Nic Moore, when he starting scoring in bunches. Personally, I liked his first 83 minutes from a leadership & floor general perspective. I saw a player who was confident and in control of the offense. Also immediately saw his ability to pass players open, especially Jackie. And gutsy passes most wouldn't attempt, let alone complete. Those traits are far more important in a point guard than the ability to score. So I was happy. And the late season scoring was certainly a nice bonus. He was certainly not a late season phenomenon in my view.
 

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Nic was a threat from anywhere on the floor and could go left or right. Clarance can only go left at this point. Needs a lot
Of work in his right hand. Teams know he’s only a threat going left but he does have athletic ability and size for the future
 

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ISU FAN 1 said:
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JMO, but I liked what I saw in Nic Moore over what I’m seeing from Clarance at this point in their freshmen years. If Clarance ever gets to the level of Nic’s freshmen year, I’ll be happy with that.

You knew that Nic was going to be that good of a player after 83 minutes. Tell me what you saw in those first 83 minutes that was better than what you have seen in Elijah? Better ball handler? Better defender? Better passer? Better shooter?

Remember, you can’t use what you saw after November of Nic’s Freshman year to judge.

IMO I saw nothing early on in Nic that lead me to believe that he would be the player he became. And if Elijah is even close to being the player Nic was, then give me the 6-4 Elijah over the 5-9 Nic.
I know some on here only seemed to appreciate the late season Nic Moore, when he starting scoring in bunches. Personally, I liked his first 83 minutes from a leadership & floor general perspective. I saw a player who was confident and in control of the offense. Also immediately saw his ability to pass players open, especially Jackie. And gutsy passes most wouldn't attempt, let alone complete. Those traits are far more important in a point guard than the ability to score. So I was happy. And the late season scoring was certainly a nice bonus. He was certainly not a late season phenomenon in my view.

I didn't see the leadership/floor general ability early in the year for Nic. I thought he came into his own in that regard later in the year, when he started to really take over games. That said, he was fully ready for the college game. He had a ton of talent and skill, the kind you hope every recruit shows early on. If he had stayed for 4 years at ISU, there is no doubt in my mind that he would have dominated the MVC.

In comparison to EC I would take Moore 11 times out of 10 (not a typo). The only thing I like about EC over Nic more is size. I do think EC will be a good PG before he is done at ISU, but he is no where near where Nic was at this point in their careers.
 

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Evans, Williams, Tinsley, Ndiaye, and Fayne starting. Wonder what Yarbrough did to get sent to the bench???

He doesn't play like Hein. :)

I was over in Peoria yesterday watching the football games. Some Bradley fans were grilling me about that 'White Punk' we have playing for us. Apparently Matt got under their skins for being a little cocky. Have to admit, that accusation took me off guard. Good thing I was drinking. Gotta good laugh out of it.
 

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Gassman, Hein and Tinsley have no business possessing a Division I Basketball Scholarship.

I question Dan giving one to Gassman. Especially when he already took Hein in the package deal. That’s two busts Dan knowingly put into his guard positions. Those rides are precious. Can’t keep wasting them. I said our grad transfer was a wasted scholarship too. And he ends up quitting.
Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!
 

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I question Dan giving one to Gassman. Especially when he already took Hein in the package deal. That’s two busts Dan knowingly put into his guard positions. Those rides are precious. Can’t keep wasting them. I said our grad transfer was a wasted scholarship too. And he ends up quitting.
Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

Agree with you on Gassman. He can at least hit an open three. Yeah, he doesn't have the greatest foot speed but I've seem him make plenty of smart plays. I hope somehow he can stay on scholarship. He deserves it IMO.

I'm getting kinda of worried after buying the Arch Madness tickets. Saturday was a complete massacre. It has to destroy the team's psych a bit. I'm just glad the Sycamores didn't have a home deal where if they won by 50 points then every fan wins a free pizza. I worry now that we will be playing on Thursday, and possibly losing on Thursday as well. That would truly suck to come down Friday and not even see them play.
 

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Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

Agree with you on Gassman. He can at least hit an open three. Yeah, he doesn't have the greatest foot speed but I've seem him make plenty of smart plays. I hope somehow he can stay on scholarship. He deserves it IMO.

I'm getting kinda of worried after buying the Arch Madness tickets. Saturday was a complete massacre. It has to destroy the team's psych a bit. I'm just glad the Sycamores didn't have a home deal where if they won by 50 points then every fan wins a free pizza. I worry now that we will be playing on Thursday, and possibly losing on Thursday as well. That would truly suck to come down Friday and not even see them play.
I agree -- everything I have seen from Gassman shows me he could be a pretty good role player here. While yes he has slow foot speed, he does not get blown by on defense routinely and seems to always be around ball on rebounds. His ability to hit 3s has been and will continue to be a very helpful for this team... he has even shown he is not scared to post up smaller guys and take the ball to the hoop.
 

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TrueRedbirdFan23 said:
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I question Dan giving one to Gassman. Especially when he already took Hein in the package deal. That’s two busts Dan knowingly put into his guard positions. Those rides are precious. Can’t keep wasting them. I said our grad transfer was a wasted scholarship too. And he ends up quitting.
Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

How quickly you seem to forget without Tinsley's block at the end of regulation that Ole Miss game wouldn't have even went to OT.
 

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Redbird28 said:
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Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

How quickly you seem to forget without Tinsley's block at the end of regulation that Ole Miss game wouldn't have even went to OT.
You can play that game with any close game. If Amadola doesn't get his second foot down, the Patriots lose the AFC title game. But he didn't and they didn't.
 

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isuquinndog said:
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Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

How quickly you seem to forget without Tinsley's block at the end of regulation that Ole Miss game wouldn't have even went to OT.
You can play that game with any close game. If Amadola doesn't get his second foot down, the Patriots lose the AFC title game. But he didn't and they didn't.

Quinn, I know exactly what you are saying, but in that particular case it was Tinsley blocking the game winning layup as time expired though. So, I think it's still a pretty apt thing to point out when someone throws out how quickly we are to forget the Ole Miss game while simultaneously saying that Hein and Gassman have outperformed our 3rd leading rebounder (#1 Defensive Rebounder) and blocked shot leader on the season. Have they outperformed Clarance? Absolutely. He was brutal Saturday, but it's part of the learning curve so I am not holding him to some lofty standard at this point after having seen him play a handful of games.

One thing I liked was that WT actually attacked the basket on two different occasions in this game instead of just jacking a 3. Granted he also hit 2 out of 3 threes, but that's beside the point. All season people have been mentioning how they wish he would slash more like Clayton did, and now he's finally showing signs of adding that to his game which should only benefit him long term. As far as he goes, he did his job imo. He's a role player that's supposed to play D, Rebound, and in general supplement what the 3 primary scorers are doing in any given game. It was the two thirds of the other 3 that didn't hold up their end Saturday and the trickle down effect was the drubbing we received.

When Fayne has 13, Yarbough 9, and Evans 3 we simply aren't going to win many games despite how well any given role player may or may not play.

For this season to turn around we need Key healthy and back to where he was earlier this year, and we need Yarbough fully engaged on both ends of the court from the opening tip every single night, not just on the ones after he gets put in to the doghouse and then decides to respond the next time out.
 

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How quickly you seem to forget without Tinsley's block at the end of regulation that Ole Miss game wouldn't have even went to OT.
You can play that game with any close game. If Amadola doesn't get his second foot down, the Patriots lose the AFC title game. But he didn't and they didn't.

Quinn, I know exactly what you are saying, but in that particular case it was Tinsley blocking the game winning layup as time expired though. So, I think it's still a pretty apt thing to point out when someone throws out how quickly we are to forget the Ole Miss game while simultaneously saying that Hein and Gassman have outperformed our 3rd leading rebounder (#1 Defensive Rebounder) and blocked shot leader on the season. Have they outperformed Clarance? Absolutely. He was brutal Saturday, but it's part of the learning curve so I am not holding him to some lofty standard at this point after having seen him play a handful of games.

One thing I liked was that WT actually attacked the basket on two different occasions in this game instead of just jacking a 3. Granted he also hit 2 out of 3 threes, but that's beside the point. All season people have been mentioning how they wish he would slash more like Clayton did, and now he's finally showing signs of adding that to his game which should only benefit him long term. As far as he goes, he did his job imo. He's a role player that's supposed to play D, Rebound, and in general supplement what the 3 primary scorers are doing in any given game. It was the two thirds of the other 3 that didn't hold up their end Saturday and the trickle down effect was the drubbing we received.

When Fayne has 13, Yarbough 9, and Evans 3 we simply aren't going to win many games despite how well any given role player may or may not play.

For this season to turn around we need Key healthy and back to where he was earlier this year, and we need Yarbough fully engaged on both ends of the court from the opening tip every single night, not just on the ones after he gets put in to the doghouse and then decides to respond the next time out.

I wasn’t looking to bash any particular player (most on here could learn a thing or two from that). I like Boogie, but I think he’d be the first one to admit he’s had an awful year based on expectations. We are 20 games into the season, unfortunately it is no longer a “small sample size.” At some point the stats have to be considered. Boogie is 29% from the field and 26% from 3. Both him & Gassman are primarily floor spacers / 3 pt shooters (a skill set that EVERY team needs). They don’t create offense for themselves or their teammates by driving, they do so by simply being on the floor and opening up driving lanes for others bc they are a threat from 3 pt. One is shooting 26% from 3 & the other is 46%. That’s my only point. Boogie is a better rebounder, agreed. But Gassman seems to have a knack for the ball as well. He’ll never be quite the rebounder that Boogie is bc of pure size / athleticism, but if Boogie can get you 5 a game, I think Gassman could get you 4 a game in similar minutes. Do Gassman & Hein have their deficiencies, absolutely. But they have accepted their roles & have not tried to do things they aren’t capable of. There is a reason they play late in games, in OT, etc. Dan trusts them. It is unrealistic to want or expect all 5 guys on the floor to be elite in all phases of the game. Give me a guy like Gassman who accepts his role, doesn’t turn it over, and makes open shots. Again, 46% from 3 pt as a Freshman... I’ll take that all day and gladly have him on scholarship now & in the future. Accountability & toughness are essential to winning just like talent is. Go Birds!
 

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TrueRedbirdFan23 said:
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You can play that game with any close game. If Amadola doesn't get his second foot down, the Patriots lose the AFC title game. But he didn't and they didn't.

Quinn, I know exactly what you are saying, but in that particular case it was Tinsley blocking the game winning layup as time expired though. So, I think it's still a pretty apt thing to point out when someone throws out how quickly we are to forget the Ole Miss game while simultaneously saying that Hein and Gassman have outperformed our 3rd leading rebounder (#1 Defensive Rebounder) and blocked shot leader on the season. Have they outperformed Clarance? Absolutely. He was brutal Saturday, but it's part of the learning curve so I am not holding him to some lofty standard at this point after having seen him play a handful of games.

One thing I liked was that WT actually attacked the basket on two different occasions in this game instead of just jacking a 3. Granted he also hit 2 out of 3 threes, but that's beside the point. All season people have been mentioning how they wish he would slash more like Clayton did, and now he's finally showing signs of adding that to his game which should only benefit him long term. As far as he goes, he did his job imo. He's a role player that's supposed to play D, Rebound, and in general supplement what the 3 primary scorers are doing in any given game. It was the two thirds of the other 3 that didn't hold up their end Saturday and the trickle down effect was the drubbing we received.

When Fayne has 13, Yarbough 9, and Evans 3 we simply aren't going to win many games despite how well any given role player may or may not play.

For this season to turn around we need Key healthy and back to where he was earlier this year, and we need Yarbough fully engaged on both ends of the court from the opening tip every single night, not just on the ones after he gets put in to the doghouse and then decides to respond the next time out.

I wasn’t looking to bash any particular player (most on here could learn a thing or two from that). I like Boogie, but I think he’d be the first one to admit he’s had an awful year based on expectations. We are 20 games into the season, unfortunately it is no longer a “small sample size.” At some point the stats have to be considered. Boogie is 29% from the field and 26% from 3. Both him & Gassman are primarily floor spacers / 3 pt shooters (a skill set that EVERY team needs). They don’t create offense for themselves or their teammates by driving, they do so by simply being on the floor and opening up driving lanes for others bc they are a threat from 3 pt. One is shooting 26% from 3 & the other is 46%. That’s my only point. Boogie is a better rebounder, agreed. But Gassman seems to have a knack for the ball as well. He’ll never be quite the rebounder that Boogie is bc of pure size / athleticism, but if Boogie can get you 5 a game, I think Gassman could get you 4 a game in similar minutes. Do Gassman & Hein have their deficiencies, absolutely. But they have accepted their roles & have not tried to do things they aren’t capable of. There is a reason they play late in games, in OT, etc. Dan trusts them. It is unrealistic to want or expect all 5 guys on the floor to be elite in all phases of the game. Give me a guy like Gassman who accepts his role, doesn’t turn it over, and makes open shots. Again, 46% from 3 pt as a Freshman... I’ll take that all day and gladly have him on scholarship now & in the future. Accountability & toughness are essential to winning just like talent is. Go Birds!

1) Yeah, agree, but there are other stats than just how many shots go in the basket. Like 18 Blocked Shots and 85 Defensive Rebounds (101 Total). Good enough for #1 on the team 20 games in to the season (Blocked Shots / Defensive Rebounding). So, not a small sample size as you allude to above.

None of that is a knock on Gassman at all btw so please don't take it that way. He's really been coming in to his own and that's a good thing.

2) The second bold line is why I brought up WT taking the ball to the rack against InSU. I know, first hand, that he's been working with the coaches on adding the driving take to his game to create looks and force the defense to have to think about something other than just sagging off him because he hasn't had much success shooting until recently. I guess, my point here is that Will has the ability to attack, but up until recently they had wanted him to fill the role you are describing that Gassman does fill very well. I think you are going to see him attack more as the season progresses, and it's going to help his overall offensive game in general. Gassman can keep anchoring the arc and hitting open 3s, which he has shown he is more than capable of doing.
 

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TrueRedbirdFan23 said:
Chicagobirdfan said:
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I question Dan giving one to Gassman. Especially when he already took Hein in the package deal. That’s two busts Dan knowingly put into his guard positions. Those rides are precious. Can’t keep wasting them. I said our grad transfer was a wasted scholarship too. And he ends up quitting.
Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

I would totally utilize Gassman!
 

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Chicagobirdfan said:
Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

I would totally utilize Gassman!

Give ALL of Hein's minutes to the Gassman.
 

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ChiRedbirdfan said:
Bird Friend said:
RedbirdMan said:
I would rather every player on the team have to drive themselves to the game bc they missed the bus and win said game than watch whatever that was yesterday. There is a reason coaches that aren't such rules nuts are the most successful in the NCAA.
If they're late to the bus, what makes you think driving themselves would get them there on time?

....at least the remainder of the team would be there on time.

Would they? And how does that solve the problem of having guys show up late and sit?
 

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TrueRedbirdFan23 said:
Chicagobirdfan said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
I question Dan giving one to Gassman. Especially when he already took Hein in the package deal. That’s two busts Dan knowingly put into his guard positions. Those rides are precious. Can’t keep wasting them. I said our grad transfer was a wasted scholarship too. And he ends up quitting.
Gassman got a scolarship Bc no one had taken it due to mm leaving so late. He will not have one next year.

Someone please explain to me why you don’t want Gassman on scholarship now or in the future? Look at the numbers. The kid is shooting 46% from 3 pt (5th in MVC) as a Redshirt FRESHMAN. Do you realize how good that is? Do you realize how important someone to space the floor is for guys like Milik, Keyshawn, Elijah now & in the future? He is 4th on the team behind the “big 3” in scoring efficiency / points per minute. This isn’t some “walk on” who showed off the street one day. He had several high level D2 offers, serious D1 interest, and was taken as a “Preferred Walk On” for a reason. He played for the QCE AAU program, one of the best in the state (Ethan Happ, Isiah Roby, Tyler Hall, Nicholas Baer, etc) and just like Baer (Iowa) chose a “Preferred Walk On” spot and EARNED a scholly. The hate for some of these guys is sad. Hein & Gassman have contributed at a high level and outperformed Clarance & Tinsley all season long. How quickly we forget the Ole Miss game, etc. Sad. Go Redbirds!

So let’s say you are correct and Gassman should remain on scholarship next season, who’s scholarship does he take?

Phil Fayne
David N’diaye
Milik Yarbrough
Christian Romine
William Tinsley
Zach Copeland
Madison Williams
Elijah Clarance
Keyshawn Evans
Taylor Bruninga
Matt Hein
Rey Idowu
Demonta Dixon
 

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I am guessing since Romine didn't play in the disaster of a blowout that they are trying for a medical redshirt. If not then he should have been out there at the end just to go up and down the court a few times. Before he left the team I was told he would be starting this year because of his offense.
 

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Dont worry about all that, ISU is only 3 transfers out from leading the NCAA for non coaching transfers over the last 5 seasons. 3 players will defect to NCAA competitive programs to make the dance..so problem solved.
 

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I think WT can and will play a lot better. He just looks like a D1 player when he's out there. If there's one player that has a lot of untapped potential it's him. The fact that he usually shoots well in practice means it just a mental thing. His form looks good to me when he shoots, it just doesn't go in enough right now. But he does a lot of other things to help the team.

But right now if we are at the end of a game and need somebody to hit an open 3, I'll pick Gassman. He looks pretty poised for playing in his first year.
 
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