at Indiana State - 02/12/2022 - 12:00 PM - ESPN3

[Manchester Matt]

Birgs is a big Dan fan. Outside of him, hmmm...no one.

Seems like Birgs disappeared. Maybe he was banned for his personal attacks.

I think everyone here wants a change made. We are three weeks away from Arch Madness, so hopefully the end is near.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Who is a Muller fan at this point?

Maybe his wife? Maybe…

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Nobody bothered to ask Dan about his lack of fouling at the end. Benson might be worse at his job than Dan is.

 

[MadBird]

One thing I don't remember "hearing", at least in this most recent round of "Dan-bashing" over the last couple weeks - is the notion that you don't leave a coach out there as a "lame duck", with only one year on his contract. You get down to one year, it hurts recruiting especially, so you either let h him go with one year left or give him an extension. You all know what I mean. So here we are - getting down to the wire, record going into the crapper, and if Coach Dan isn't let go, we go into next year with him in serious trouble and almost certain dismissal at the end of the year. How's that gonna work? Hard to imagine how AD Kyle let's this go past early March.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

One thing I don't remember "hearing", at least in this most recent round of "Dan-bashing" over the last couple weeks - is the notion that you don't leave a coach out there as a "lame duck", with only one year on his contract. You get down to one year, it hurts recruiting especially, so you either let h him go with one year left or give him an extension. You all know what I mean. So here we are - getting down to the wire, record going into the crapper, and if Coach Dan isn't let go, we go into next year with him in serious trouble and almost certain dismissal at the end of the year. How's that gonna work? Hard to imagine how AD Kyle let's this go past early March.

I’m sure every other MVC coach directs any recruits ISU targets to about 5-6 twitter accounts constantly calling for him to be fired and this message board. We are tame compared to other schools too.

 

[91Bird]

With 4 winning seasons in the conference out of 10 I don’t think it’s a secret that Dan is on thin ice.

 

[Yogi]

It is time for a change let the womens coach take over

 

[Sladerunningbear]

Bad news, good news.

Bad news: We have nothing to hang our heads about except we blew a 16 point lead and being down 1 with 14 seconds left instead of playing our vaunted man-to-man or zone defense we played our still defense.

Good news: I won 8.9 million betting the ISU ML. I will use it to build one Waffle House in Bloomington-Normal for every year Muller is our coach, up to 24.

 

[RedbirdSoxFan]

Reeves/Strong/Freeman 13 for 42 FG
Reeves/Freeman 1/9 3PT
These numbers will not beat any team!!
Not fouling once Indiana St got the ball past mid- court was inexcusable.
Another good game from McChesney (the only positive of the game).

Forgot Kendall Lewis 1- 6 FG 1-3 3PT
14-48 FG 2-12 3PT

 

[ISUBird]

Maybe his wife? Maybe…

Birgs was already mentioned.

 

[Birdfriend72]

Bad news, good news.

Bad news: We have nothing to hang our heads about except we blew a 16 point lead and being down 1 with 14 seconds left instead of playing our vaunted man-to-man or zone defense we played our still defense.

Good news: I won 8.9 million betting the ISU ML. I will use it to build one Waffle House in Bloomington-Normal for every year Muller is our coach, up to 24.

You can give free waffles if we score 75 or more points so Dan can lecture the crowd for cheering the team to score!

 

[Redbirdfan06]

Reeves/Strong/Freeman 13 for 42 FG
Reeves/Freeman 1/9 3PT
These numbers will not beat any team!!
Not fouling once Indiana St got the ball past mid- court was inexcusable.
Another good game from McChesney (the only positive of the game).

Indiana State won this game shooting 35 percent from the field and 18 percent from three. How did those numbers beat us?

 

[SgtHulka]

Indiana State won this game shooting 35 percent from the field and 18 percent from three. How did those numbers beat us?

We shot 27% from both in the second half. We built our nearly insurmountable lead in the first half by shooting a blistering 38%

 

[Adunk33]

Nobody bothered to ask Dan about his lack of fouling at the end. Benson might be worse at his job than Dan is.

I mean…I didn’t say it….

From the postgame show:
“They got the last one(offensive rebound) there,I will certainly second guessing not fouling with 35 seconds left. They’re such a good free throw shooting team, I just thought we had a better chance to get a rebound with 6 seconds left, down 1. We have a play we can run with 6 seconds left that I feel very comfortable with and if we just get that clean rebound, I can call a quick timeout and now you have a chance to win it. Either way when it doesn’t work, certainly I feel like, foul, extend the game. Neese wasn’t going to miss free throws so I didn’t want to foul him, and make it a three point game but again, certainly second guessing that at this point but, that’s how the game works. “

Per ESPNs play-by-play, Neese secured a rebound with 30 seconds to go and hoisted a 3 pointer with 5 seconds. The ball was rebounded by Indy state with 2 seconds left, when Kendall fouled. So my biggest question would be, with the amount of times the players have bobbled the ball out of bounds and scrambles for rebounds, what gave coach confidence they’d be able to secure a “clean rebound” with less than 5 seconds to go? Part of me thinks Coach wasn’t 100% sure how much time was left in the game.

I’ll be the first to tell you that I do not know everything about basketball but it seems down 3 with 30 seconds to go and the ball would be better than (best case scenario) being down 1 with less than 5, and having to go the full length of the court.

 

[dpdoughbird06]

I mean…I didn’t say it….

From the postgame show:
“They got the last one(offensive rebound) there,I will certainly second guessing not fouling with 35 seconds left. They’re such a good free throw shooting team, I just thought we had a better chance to get a rebound with 6 seconds left, down 1. We have a play we can run with 6 seconds left that I feel very comfortable with and if we just get that clean rebound, I can call a quick timeout and now you have a chance to win it. Either way when it doesn’t work, certainly I feel like, foul, extend the game. Neese wasn’t going to miss free throws so I didn’t want to foul him, and make it a three point game but again, certainly second guessing that at this point but, that’s how the game works. “

Per ESPNs play-by-play, Neese secured a rebound with 30 seconds to go and hoisted a 3 pointer with 5 seconds. The ball was rebounded by Indy state with 2 seconds left, when Kendall fouled. So my biggest question would be, with the amount of times the players have bobbled the ball out of bounds and scrambles for rebounds, what gave coach confidence they’d be able to secure a “clean rebound” with less than 5 seconds to go? Part of me thinks Coach wasn’t 100% sure how much time was left in the game.

I’ll be the first to tell you that I do not know everything about basketball but it seems down 3 with 30 seconds to go and the ball would be better than (best case scenario) being down 1 with less than 5, and having to go the full length of the court.

Devil’s advocate: we hadn’t score in the previous four minutes and spent the entire second half playing hot potato with nobody seemingly wanting to take the open shot.

I’m still with you that we should have extended the game rather than hoping for final seconds to play out perfectly, but I can see an argument for not having much confidence in our offense at that point.

Sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation.

 

[dpdoughbird06]

Bad news, good news.

Bad news: We have nothing to hang our heads about except we blew a 16 point lead and being down 1 with 14 seconds left instead of playing our vaunted man-to-man or zone defense we played our still defense.

Good news: I won 8.9 million betting the ISU ML. I will use it to build one Waffle House in Bloomington-Normal for every year Muller is our coach, up to 24.

We have four major Highway interchanges, the old Merry Ann’s, Downtown Bloomington for the post-bar crowds, a few on Veterans, one for the Rivian guys getting off 12-hour shifts at sunrise…

That makes about ten Waffle Houses. Here’s to another decade! I’ll take my slathered, capped and smothered, please.

 

[topiarydan]

Even a f'ing grade school coach knows to foul and push your luck on free throw line - pressure at end of game a lot more than in middle for a free throw shooter. Epic fail by Dan.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

There are two legitimate strategies. Pressure defense to force a turnover. Foul immediately. With pressure defense you give a set amount of time and if failed you foul. I wouldn’t even call letting them waste 30 seconds a strategy.

 

[Redbird Alum 2004]

What has happened to Lewis? He was coming in strong then just hit a wall it seems.

 

[jamminjamarsmiley]

I mean…I didn’t say it….

From the postgame show:
“They got the last one(offensive rebound) there,I will certainly second guessing not fouling with 35 seconds left. They’re such a good free throw shooting team, I just thought we had a better chance to get a rebound with 6 seconds left, down 1. We have a play we can run with 6 seconds left that I feel very comfortable with and if we just get that clean rebound, I can call a quick timeout and now you have a chance to win it. Either way when it doesn’t work, certainly I feel like, foul, extend the game. Neese wasn’t going to miss free throws so I didn’t want to foul him, and make it a three point game but again, certainly second guessing that at this point but, that’s how the game works. “

Per ESPNs play-by-play, Neese secured a rebound with 30 seconds to go and hoisted a 3 pointer with 5 seconds. The ball was rebounded by Indy state with 2 seconds left, when Kendall fouled. So my biggest question would be, with the amount of times the players have bobbled the ball out of bounds and scrambles for rebounds, what gave coach confidence they’d be able to secure a “clean rebound” with less than 5 seconds to go? Part of me thinks Coach wasn’t 100% sure how much time was left in the game.

I’ll be the first to tell you that I do not know everything about basketball but it seems down 3 with 30 seconds to go and the ball would be better than (best case scenario) being down 1 with less than 5, and having to go the full length of the court.

Thanks for the recap. I would say I 100% whole heartedly disagree with Dan, and it’s not even one of these Monday morning qb things. In the moment as I watched INSU dribble the clock down I’m wondering what the hell is ISU doing?

I’m a bit disappointed Jim benson didn’t ask the question after the game. And now I have seen he is blocking those on Twitter for criticizing him. Seems like a pretty petty move. Perhaps he will be moving into retirement when Dan is canned this off-season. I have enjoyed the videttes coverage more the last few years anyways.