Will our Interim AD fire Spack?

[fourthandshort]

what....out of vindictiveness? i believe we have a classic case of Atychiphobia

I have no fear of spiders nor even liked the movie. =D

Vindictiveness is admittedly a strong word... but it was in response to a lot of vitriol and strong language towards our best coach ever. I don't get that.

 

[normalbird]

Umm, when was that made known??

I’m an old man. Sometimes I just make things up.

 

[Redbird15]

I have no fear of taking a swing. We're/I'm talking about being smart about this and being respectful towards our best football ever.

I've already acknowledged both this and last year, his time may be coming to an end. But arguing for being smart and respectful in how we do this.

If we miss playoffs this year, we will be hard pressed to offer a new contract or extension after 2024, unless it comes together next year. I can see defense likely returning to previous Spack levels. But hard to imagine the offense being this strong next year without Annexstad. Though this year may amount to a great auditon for our next QB transfer.

And we'll find out how much OC Peterson impacted our offense or not once Zack is gone. But this is the first time since Matt Brown that a QB was much better in Year 2 than Year 1. Many things usually contribute to things like this .. we'll find out next fall how much OC Peterson has to do with it. But we should be able to attract a decent QB given our offensive production thus season ... that and another TE if needed.

You have other TE Preston,Charles and Spaulding although he is hurt. Those guys had good spring and we failed to utilize those guys in the offense other than to block. Remains to see how many offensive guys stay that are 2’s/3’s when not being utilized especially with upcoming QB ?’s. Another ? do those guys that have been at ISU 3/4 yrs want to be in another 6/5 or 7/4 season of not making playoffs

 

[fourthandshort]

You have other TE Preston,Charles and Spaulding although he is hurt. Those guys had good spring and we failed to utilize those guys in the offense other than to block. Remains to see how many offensive guys stay that are 2’s/3’s when not being utilized especially with upcoming QB ?’s. Another ? do those guys that have been at ISU 3/4 yrs want to be in another 6/5 or 7/4 season of not making playoffs

Spack has learned to more fully trust his OC and QB for the first time since Matt Brown. Spack did not give them this much leash a year ago. If Rittenhouse doesn't develop enough, I trust OC Peterson to scour the portal for someone like Annexstad. And now they have the stats to tout to attract a good one. As well as a TE and another WR.

So as long as we are proactive about this, we should have some options. You never know if the next QB transfer will work out .. but we have a track record now with an OC who can tout himself as well.

Will be interesting to see how Rittenhouse is viewed by Peterson and Spack. The mobility is a good thing, but the height is not. Peterson played and coached QBs at a pretty high level ... he should have some idea.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Brock is a GOOD man. 6 games under .500 in our last 8 conference seasons. Not 2, 3 or 4...eight. I'm ready for a change and to see what's out there, although I recognize it won't happen this year. In my mind there's no doubt Brock could make a 7 figure payday as a DC for a Power. Question is...does he even want to at this point?

If he doesn’t “want to” then that says a lot about why we’re pretty much 6-5 every year. He’s lost his passion.

 

[TBS_20]

If he doesn’t “want to” then that says a lot about why we’re pretty much 6-5 every year. He’s lost his passion.

Or he's getting to retirement age. He's a great person but he shouldn't be coaching ISU past the next few weeks

 

[Virginia Redbird]

And we'll find out how much OC Peterson impacted our offense or not once Zack is gone. But this is the first time since Matt Brown that a QB was much better in Year 2 than Year 1. Many things usually contribute to things like this .. we'll find out next fall how much OC Peterson has to do with it. But we should be able to attract a decent QB given our offensive production thus season ... that and another TE if needed.

Will OC Peterson still be here next year? Not trying to start rumors but I would think he would like to return to an FBS OC position or maybe a Head Coach position at some level. What if both Zack and Peterson are gone next year? I think Peterson has done a good job here and would be someone people would be interested in. We really cant say what next year may bring.

 

[DaveBird10]

If he doesn’t “want to” then that says a lot about why we’re pretty much 6-5 every year. He’s lost his passion.

So a guy can't stay at ISU bc he likes it here, is comfortable financially and has been the DC at a power 5 and might just want to run his own football program. He's at retirement age with kids and grandkids in town, he's not going to chase the money.

 

[DaveBird10]

I want ISU football to win 8,9,10 games every year but that won't happen. Brock is at retirement age with an interim AD who wont fire him and that's ok. I am extremely frustrated with the results the last few years bc the last time I got excited about a road conference victory was 2019 at South Dakota State. Even thought I am frustrated bc I want playoff experiences more then anyone as I said tailgating on Saturday
-Brock is the all time winningest coach in ISU football history with 99 and going to get 100.
-He has built up this program where people like me who love ISU and ISU football care about it and what happens on Saturdays.
- He was here for the East Side stands to be built.
-Big for the bubble to be built
-He will get you 5,6,7 wins every year and you'll be competitive.
- Look at Purdue football after Joe Tiller left. Tiller was 87-62 with 12 years at Purdue, then Danny Hope 22-27 in 4 years, Darrell Hazzel was 9-33 in 4 years, Jeff Brohm 36-34 in 6 years and now Ryan Walters who's 2-6 in year 1. Purdue has been nothing since Tiller left, lucky for a winning season most years.
-Bottom line even though I am frustrated with results last few years but with 14 years and Brock has brought to ISU football and seeing tailgating lots how they are, he deserves to leave on his own after his contract runs out when he wants to.

 

[TBS_20]

So a guy can't stay at ISU bc he likes it here, is comfortable financially and has been the DC at a power 5 and might just want to run his own football program. He's at retirement age with kids and grandkids in town, he's not going to chase the money.

He meant after being fired not now

 

[Virginia Redbird]

So a guy can't stay at ISU bc he likes it here, is comfortable financially and has been the DC at a power 5 and might just want to run his own football program. He's at retirement age with kids and grandkids in town, he's not going to chase the money.

That type of comfort in a football coach is not always productive. I don't think Coach Spack has lost his passion for the game. He may well have lost the drive of a rookie Head Coach trying to make his mark. Expectations also play into it. If the school/fans are fine with winning seasons even if by one game (6-5) that will filter down intentionally or not. Comfortable. I am not on the bandwagon for firing Spack mid or late season. What do we gain? I think he will be allowed to finish his contract out especially with a temp AD. ISU is not a football school so the expectations of big success are probably just not there. Just don't suck is the height of that bar. 6-5 is not sucking, it is not great but at ISU the football coach does not have to be great. You can tell how overall mediocre the history of the program is when this is our greatest football coach of all time. Spack is not exactly Woody Hayes or Bo Schembechler. Maybe Peterson would be a good choice to replace him as head coach when Spack does decide to call it an ISU career. I believe that decision to retire will be up to Spack. I don't believe he will be shown the door by this temp AD or the next full time AD.

 

[TBS_20]

I want ISU football to win 8,9,10 games every year but that won't happen. Brock is at retirement age with an interim AD who wont fire him and that's ok. I am extremely frustrated with the results the last few years bc the last time I got excited about a road conference victory was 2019 at South Dakota State. Even thought I am frustrated bc I want playoff experiences more then anyone as I said tailgating on Saturday
-Brock is the all time winningest coach in ISU football history with 99 and going to get 100.
-He has built up this program where people like me who love ISU and ISU football care about it and what happens on Saturdays.
- He was here for the East Side stands to be built.
-Big for the bubble to be built
-He will get you 5,6,7 wins every year and you'll be competitive.
- Look at Purdue football after Joe Tiller left. Tiller was 87-62 with 12 years at Purdue, then Danny Hope 22-27 in 4 years, Darrell Hazzel was 9-33 in 4 years, Jeff Brohm 36-34 in 6 years and now Ryan Walters who's 2-6 in year 1. Purdue has been nothing since Tiller left, lucky for a winning season most years.
-Bottom line even though I am frustrated with results last few years but with 14 years and Brock has brought to ISU football and seeing tailgating lots how they are, he deserves to leave on his own after his contract runs out when he wants to.

I'd rather try and be 2-10 then be stuck in purgatory at 6-5. Both get you to the exact same place. If it doesn't work out, try again. I'd rather fail a couple times then have what we have now.

 

[TIMMY]

In talking to her. You know, when you talk to people, it is amazing what you find out from the "horse's" mouth.

+1
AD should start her quiet search now (if she hasn't already) with an eye toward an energetic young OC.

 

[Redbird]

In talking to her. You know, when you talk to people, it is amazing what you find out from the "horse's" mouth.

Thats funny because I talked to her too and she said that she only wanted to do the job for up to a year. It is also amazing what people find out when talk to them and get it straight from the horses mouth.

 

[isuquinndog]

Thats funny because I talked to her too and she said that she only wanted to do the job for up to a year. It is also amazing what people find out when talk to them and get it straight from the horses mouth.

I believe this is also what she has said publicly, correct? Wasn't she retiring before the whole AD/Indy fiasco?

 

[Redbird]

I believe this is also what she has said publicly, correct? Wasn't she retiring before the whole AD/Indy fiasco?

Correct on both accounts.

 

[normalbird]

Re: Interim AD tenure. I’m neither a betting man, or a clairvoyant. We’ll all have to wait and see.

 

[fourthandshort]

If he doesn’t “want to” then that says a lot about why we’re pretty much 6-5 every year. He’s lost his passion.

silliness

 

[fourthandshort]

I'd rather try and be 2-10 then be stuck in purgatory at 6-5. Both get you to the exact same place. If it doesn't work out, try again. I'd rather fail a couple times then have what we have now.

silliness .. quadrupling down as if that will help your argument ?

 

[fourthandshort]

I want ISU football to win 8,9,10 games every year but that won't happen. Brock is at retirement age with an interim AD who wont fire him and that's ok. I am extremely frustrated with the results the last few years bc the last time I got excited about a road conference victory was 2019 at South Dakota State. Even thought I am frustrated bc I want playoff experiences more then anyone as I said tailgating on Saturday
-Brock is the all time winningest coach in ISU football history with 99 and going to get 100.
-He has built up this program where people like me who love ISU and ISU football care about it and what happens on Saturdays.
- He was here for the East Side stands to be built.
-Big for the bubble to be built
-He will get you 5,6,7 wins every year and you'll be competitive.
- Look at Purdue football after Joe Tiller left. Tiller was 87-62 with 12 years at Purdue, then Danny Hope 22-27 in 4 years, Darrell Hazzel was 9-33 in 4 years, Jeff Brohm 36-34 in 6 years and now Ryan Walters who's 2-6 in year 1. Purdue has been nothing since Tiller left, lucky for a winning season most years.
-Bottom line even though I am frustrated with results last few years but with 14 years and Brock has brought to ISU football and seeing tailgating lots how they are, he deserves to leave on his own after his contract runs out when he wants to.

you don't see their genius ... they say that now. But when they are losing even more, they'll complain even more like it has nothing to do with Spack being fired.