Will our Interim AD fire Spack?

[Manchester Matt]

you don't see their genius ... they say that now. But when they are losing even more, they'll complain even more like it has nothing to do with Spack being fired.

So based on this, you think a new coach will come in here and automatically lose? It's OK for others to have differing opinions and be frustrated about the current direction of the program. You have your opinion. Others have theirs. Your comment here has no factual evidence of what's going to happen when a new coach, which is eventually going to happen, takes over this program.

I appreciate the previous success the program has had under Spack. Frisco was one of the best experiences I've had as a fan of any teams. However, things are stale and the program has been mediocre for several seasons. If you want to argue that, have at it. The numbers don't lie. Sports are results driven. I'm sorry that I don't feel these results in recent seasons are satisfactory.

Flame away.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

So a guy can't stay at ISU bc he likes it here, is comfortable financially and has been the DC at a power 5 and might just want to run his own football program. He's at retirement age with kids and grandkids in town, he's not going to chase the money.

It wasn’t about whether he wants to stay at ISU. I was responding to this comment…

In my mind there's no doubt Brock could make a 7 figure payday as a DC for a Power. Question is...does he even want to at this point?

 

[CaliRdBrd]

I want ISU football to win 8,9,10 games every year but that won't happen. Brock is at retirement age with an interim AD who wont fire him and that's ok. I am extremely frustrated with the results the last few years bc the last time I got excited about a road conference victory was 2019 at South Dakota State. Even thought I am frustrated bc I want playoff experiences more then anyone as I said tailgating on Saturday
-Brock is the all time winningest coach in ISU football history with 99 and going to get 100.
-He has built up this program where people like me who love ISU and ISU football care about it and what happens on Saturdays.
- He was here for the East Side stands to be built.
-Big for the bubble to be built
-He will get you 5,6,7 wins every year and you'll be competitive.
- Look at Purdue football after Joe Tiller left. Tiller was 87-62 with 12 years at Purdue, then Danny Hope 22-27 in 4 years, Darrell Hazzel was 9-33 in 4 years, Jeff Brohm 36-34 in 6 years and now Ryan Walters who's 2-6 in year 1. Purdue has been nothing since Tiller left, lucky for a winning season most years.
-Bottom line even though I am frustrated with results last few years but with 14 years and Brock has brought to ISU football and seeing tailgating lots how they are, he deserves to leave on his own after his contract runs out when he wants to.

So he could absolutely go into the tank (let’s say 3-8 for the next 3-5 years straight) and you’d still support him, and he can leave when he wants to leave, just because he’s our all time winningest coach, a nice guy, and had a decent two-year run 10 years ago?
Wow.

 

[fourthandshort]

So based on this, you think a new coach will come in here and automatically lose? It's OK for others to have differing opinions and be frustrated about the current direction of the program. You have your opinion. Others have theirs. Your comment here has no factual evidence of what's going to happen when a new coach, which is eventually going to happen, takes over this program.

I appreciate the previous success the program has had under Spack. Frisco was one of the best experiences I've had as a fan of any teams. However, things are stale and the program has been mediocre for several seasons. If you want to argue that, have at it. The numbers don't lie. Sports are results driven. I'm sorry that I don't feel these results in recent seasons are satisfactory.

Flame away.

I don't think your listening to my position.

I'm open to reality we are nearing the end of Spacks time. I just disagree strongly he should be fired with 1 year left on his contract. He deserves much better than that. It will look bad on ISU if we do that .. so that also makes it a bad idea.

I'm also disagreeing with some who are quick to disparage him and marginalize what he has done playing in the MVFC. And seemingly ignore the obvious implications on someones won-loss record when you routinely play 3-4 team in the top 16 and 5-7 teams who are arguably top 25 .. and almost every year, while usually playing an FBS game as well. Bottom line 7-4 can be a very good record in the MVFC ... though not the case in this one isolated case this year for our Redbirds .. which I have acknowledged since I first saw our schedule.

Lastly, if your or anyone doesn't understand quality wins & losses vs bad wins and losses .. don't argue as if you know better. YOU DO NOT.

 

[DaveBird10]

So he could absolutely go into the tank (let’s say 3-8 for the next 3-5 years straight) and you’d still support him, and he can leave when he wants to leave, just because he’s our all time winningest coach, a nice guy, and had a decent two-year run 10 years ago?
Wow.

If it goes into the tank like WIU then yes fire him but he's not going to stay another 3-5 years, but from what I know and what I've heard that's not how it's going to happen. He has a year left on his deal with an interim AD. She is not going to hire/fire anyone and before we get to that point, we need a president first. Brock contract will run out and that's that. All the talk about fire him with an interim AD and interim president is just talk by a few people on here.

 

[TBS_20]

I don't think your listening to my position.

I'm open to reality we are nearing the end of Spacks time. I just disagree strongly he should be fired with 1 year left on his contract. He deserves much better than that. It will look bad on ISU if we do that .. so that also makes it a bad idea.

I'm also disagreeing with some who are quick to disparage him and marginalize what he has done playing in the MVFC. And seemingly ignore the obvious implications on someones won-loss record when you routinely play 3-4 team in the top 16 and 5-7 teams who are arguably top 25 .. and almost every year, while usually playing an FBS game as well. Bottom line 7-4 can be a very good record in the MVFC ... though not the case in this one isolated case this year for our Redbirds .. which I have acknowledged since I first saw our schedule.

Lastly, if your or anyone doesn't understand quality wins & losses vs bad wins and losses .. don't argue as if you know better. YOU DO NOT.

You're saying only people that agree with you are right. Lol

 

[Manchester Matt]

I don't think your listening to my position.

I'm open to reality we are nearing the end of Spacks time. I just disagree strongly he should be fired with 1 year left on his contract. He deserves much better than that. It will look bad on ISU if we do that .. so that also makes it a bad idea.

I'm also disagreeing with some who are quick to disparage him and marginalize what he has done playing in the MVFC. And seemingly ignore the obvious implications on someones won-loss record when you routinely play 3-4 team in the top 16 and 5-7 teams who are arguably top 25 .. and almost every year, while usually playing an FBS game as well. Bottom line 7-4 can be a very good record in the MVFC ... though not the case in this one isolated case this year for our Redbirds .. which I have acknowledged since I first saw our schedule.

Lastly, if your or anyone doesn't understand quality wins & losses vs bad wins and losses .. don't argue as if you know better. YOU DO NOT.

You're the guy who thinks boat racing a winless team is a quality win, so yeah, what do I know? YOU'RE WRONG! I also know that there is a zero percent chance we make the playoffs. You are still posting percentage chances that we get a bid. LOL.

You are set in your ways. Everyone who has a different opinion is wrong. No point in even discussing it anymore. Just rename this the Fourth and Short forum.

 

[fourthandshort]

You're the guy who thinks boat racing a winless team is a quality win, so yeah, what do I know? YOU'RE WRONG! I also know that there is a zero percent chance we make the playoffs. You are still posting percentage chances that we get a bid. LOL.

You are set in your ways. Everyone who has a different opinion is wrong. No point in even discussing it anymore. Just rename this the Fourth and Short forum.

nuff said

 

[fourthandshort]

You're saying only people that agree with you are right. Lol

no, i learn from others too .. try it.

 

[fourthandshort]

You're the guy who thinks boat racing a winless team is a quality win, so yeah, what do I know? YOU'RE WRONG! I also know that there is a zero percent chance we make the playoffs. You are still posting percentage chances that we get a bid. LOL.

You are set in your ways. Everyone who has a different opinion is wrong. No point in even discussing it anymore. Just rename this the Fourth and Short forum.

hopefully, you'll get your wish and we keep losing.

I'll keep being a fan.

 

[cpacmel]

I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure Coach Spack is signed thru 2025. So that's 2 more seasons after this.

As long as he is our coach, I will support him.

I can't see an interim AD making a change, especially with an interim president above her. That would be a firing and a hiring with an interim AD in place and an interim President as well. That's not good for the next president / AD or coach even.

 

[Total Red]

Thats funny because I talked to her too and she said that she only wanted to do the job for up to a year. It is also amazing what people find out when talk to them and get it straight from the horses mouth.

It may be a timing issue. In her early statements Dr. Beggs said she was only temporary. Later she gave an interview where she said she was enjoying the job, and she might be interested in staying longer. I think she is likely to stay awhile if President Tarhule stays. I tried to find a link to that interview, but I couldn't find one.

 

[Total Red]

I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure Coach Spack is signed thru 2025. So that's 2 more seasons after this.

I believed you the first time you posted this. We have more writers than readers on this board.

 

[Total Red]

You have other TE Preston,Charles and Spaulding although he is hurt. Those guys had good spring and we failed to utilize those guys in the offense other than to block. Remains to see how many offensive guys stay that are 2’s/3’s when not being utilized especially with upcoming QB ?’s. Another ? do those guys that have been at ISU 3/4 yrs want to be in another 6/5 or 7/4 season of not making playoffs

Cam Grandy is clearly our best TE. Even playing hurt he had 11 catches against UNI. Which of those 11 catches do you want to risk giving up by playing someone not as good? You put your best players on the field as much as you can.

We may lose a TE or 2 to the portal, that happens. It will probably be someone that doesn't see themselves as the starter next year. Gandy will be gone so the position will be wide open. If that is when you choose to leave, then it doesn't demonstrate much confidence in your abilities.

 

[isuquinndog]

I can't see it because of paywall, but when I google Brock Spack contract this result comes up with the preview of Spack's contract running through 2025. Brock Spack on brink of Illinois State football history.

 

[Redbird15]

Cam Grandy is clearly our best TE. Even playing hurt he had 11 catches against UNI. Which of those 11 catches do you want to risk giving up by playing someone not as good? You put your best players on the field as much as you can.

We may lose a TE or 2 to the portal, that happens. It will probably be someone that doesn't see themselves as the starter next year. Gandy will be gone so the position will be wide open. If that is when you choose to leave, then it doesn't demonstrate much confidence in your abilities.

Never said he was not our best TE ! Forth posted getting another TE from portal. My reply was we have other TE it would be nice to utilize those TE in game plans other than to block. Previous years Demming/Taula were both used. Not taking anything away from Grandy he is an amazing player. But to keep opponents guessing etc u got to use all weapons to make a championship caliber team. Some crucial downs are predictable where ball is going to be thrown or run. I really don't care if we throw the ball 50x to a TE or run to the right 50x. Sooner are later you got to put surprise element into game as game changer run left or pass to WR. The Pass by Kasper or the one by D. Sob in earlier games those are surprise element that those teams were not expecting. As far a portal it happens ! All kids don't have to see themselves as a starter as long as they feel they are contributing factors to teams success when on the field. Some at the BAMA's/GA's/ are there for 3 yrs as 2's but are utilized.

 

[Total Red]

Never said he was not our best TE ! Forth posted getting another TE from portal. My reply was we have other TE it would be nice to utilize those TE in game plans other than to block. Previous years Demming/Taula were both used.

Ok, you said that the 2's and 3's weren't being used enough so I thought you meant that Grandy should come out so they could go in. Now I understand that you meant two TE's as we often utilized last year.
Just curious, if we go 2 TE's what position gets left out? Do you eliminate the slot receiver?

Some crucial downs are predictable where ball is going to be thrown or run.

This one comes out almost every year no matter who is calling the plays. We're too predictable. I'd like to watch the game with you next week and have you tell me what the next play is going to be.

I do know this. We scored 2 TD's against N. Iowa by doing the complete opposite of what their defense expected. Our first TD came on a 1-yard run. N. Iowa expected Annexstad to hand off to the tailback, but he kept the ball and trotted in untouched. Later the defense expected Sobkowicz to do his usual fade to the corner to the endzone but instead he faked going outside and then did a slant across the middle. He was wide open for an easy 8-yard TD catch. We may not be as predictable as people think.

 

[TIMMY]

Never said he was not our best TE ! Forth posted getting another TE from portal. My reply was we have other TE it would be nice to utilize those TE in game plans other than to block. Previous years Demming/Taula were both used. Not taking anything away from Grandy he is an amazing player. But to keep opponents guessing etc u got to use all weapons to make a championship caliber team. Some crucial downs are predictable where ball is going to be thrown or run. I really don't care if we throw the ball 50x to a TE or run to the right 50x. Sooner are later you got to put surprise element into game as game changer run left or pass to WR. The Pass by Kasper or the one by D. Sob in earlier games those are surprise element that those teams were not expecting. As far a portal it happens ! All kids don't have to see themselves as a starter as long as they feel they are contributing factors to teams success when on the field. Some at the BAMA's/GA's/ are there for 3 yrs as

Ok, you said that the 2's and 3's weren't being used enough so I thought you meant that Grandy should come out so they could go in. Now I understand that you meant two TE's as we often utilized last year.
Just curious, if we go 2 TE's what position gets left out? Do you eliminate the slot receiver?

This one comes out almost every year no matter who is calling the plays. We're too predictable. I'd like to watch the game with you next week and have you tell me what the next play is going to be.

I do know this. We scored 2 TD's against N. Iowa by doing the complete opposite of what their defense expected. Our first TD came on a 1-yard run. N. Iowa expected Annexstad to hand off to the tailback, but he kept the ball and trotted in untouched. Later the defense expected Sobkowicz to do his usual fade to the corner to the endzone but instead he faked going outside and then did a slant across the middle. He was wide open for an easy 8-yard TD catch. We may not be as predictable as people think.

The 1st down play was the same call as the 3rd down play. Annexstad could have walked in on 1st down if he had read the EMLOS, but he gave it. I was yelling at him through my TV. I'm sure the booth saw it. It was a good call and a bad read. The fade on 2nd down was a nice call to set up 3rd down. If he catches it yippie. If he doesn't you have the read in your pocket for 3rd down. Good job coaches!

 

[isuquinndog]

Timmy, I need for you to watch a game and give a running commentary and post it to Youtube. Ok? Thanks.

 

[MadBird]

Timmy, I need for you to watch a game and give a running commentary and post it to Youtube. Ok? Thanks.

Cripes sake, he could do the Marquee games for us and would be a major improvement!!