Will our Interim AD fire Spack?

Will our Interim AD fire Spack?

  • Yes : cuz she has nothing to lose

    Votes: 5 12.8%

  • Yes : Cuz she reads this board

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Unsure : I’m not an interim AD

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • No : Spack has been too good for ISU to let him go with only 1 year left on his contract

    Votes: 31 79.5%

  • No : Cuz she reads this board

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
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ScoreboardDotRace said:
She let the Soccer coach go. Not saying Spack will be dealt the same fate. I don’t think he will, but she’s not letting the interim tag stop her from making moves.
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I'm surprised by that. Sadly, it's been an awful few years for Redbird soccer. I didn't know that option was on the table. Only 2 years at the helm.
 
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ScoreboardDotRace said:
She let the Soccer coach go. Not saying Spack will be dealt the same fate. I don’t think he will, but she’s not letting the interim tag stop her from making moves.
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Well, let's see . . . revenue sport that generates lots of local press and fan interest -- vs -- non-revenue sport that most locals don't even know we have a team. A coach with a lot of national respect and 99-69 record -- vs -- a coach in her 1st HC job--hired late in the process because the previous coach resigned really late, so probably didn't have much competition for the job--with a record of 6-23-5. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I think Beggs felt she could do this because it was an easy call and nobody outside the soccer community would even know about it . . . and frankly, nobody would see it as a bold move.

And Beggs has hired AD staff, so it's not like she hasn't been making moves. I think the real question most of us have when it comes to an interim AD is whether that person has the authority to fire/hire the coaches of the revenue sports. Especially when we have an interim President at the same time. If she wants the job long-term, now's not the time to be making controversial moves (even if it's the right move). Firing Spack would be controversial to say the least. Firing Kresge isn't controversial in the least.
 
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Bird Friend said:
Well, let's see . . . revenue sport that generates lots of local press and fan interest -- vs -- non-revenue sport that most locals don't even know we have a team. A coach with a lot of national respect and 99-69 record -- vs -- a coach in her 1st HC job--hired late in the process because the previous coach resigned really late, so probably didn't have much competition for the job--with a record of 6-23-5. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I think Beggs felt she could do this because it was an easy call and nobody outside the soccer community would even know about it . . . and frankly, nobody would see it as a bold move.

And Beggs has hired AD staff, so it's not like she hasn't been making moves. I think the real question most of us have when it comes to an interim AD is whether that person has the authority to fire/hire the coaches of the revenue sports. Especially when we have an interim President at the same time. If she wants the job long-term, now's not the time to be making controversial moves (even if it's the right move). Firing Spack would be controversial to say the least. Firing Kresge isn't controversial in the least.
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Would it really be controversial. I think people are saying he's going to live out his contract not that he's good and deserves more time. I don't think you'd hear too much complaining from anyone if the interim cleaned house
 
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I get your point, and I agree, they’re different sports and levels. I even said I didn’t think Spack was going anywhere. I was simply stating that she let a coach go as the interim AD. I don’t believe she had done that yet? Sorry if she has.
 
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Why would you fire him when you are gonna win your last 3 games and get into the playoffs?
 
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Other than, and possibly including Berry, Spack has accomplished anything more than had ever been expected of a paltry ISU Football history. Sure, I didn't come in until the tail end of the Heacock era. Was VERY invested in the Berry-to-Denver years. And I know many on here will say "aim high" and "don't settle for being just more than mediocre"...

I hear both sides, but in this instance, Spack is stand-up enough to make me believe HE is capable of deciding if "maybe it's time" and contractually, the timing sort of stacks up in a common sense way to allow that to play out.

As someone who has been close to the program, of course I want more, but also respect just how much has had to be done in such a small sliver when you consider, historically, how far back the history of this "not really a football school" goes.
 
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Birgs said:
Other than, and possibly including Berry, Spack has accomplished anything more than had ever been expected of a paltry ISU Football history. Sure, I didn't come in until the tail end of the Heacock era. Was VERY invested in the Berry-to-Denver years. And I know many on here will say "aim high" and "don't settle for being just more than mediocre"...

I hear both sides, but in this instance, Spack is stand-up enough to make me believe HE is capable of deciding if "maybe it's time" and contractually, the timing sort of stacks up in a common sense way to allow that to play out.

As someone who has been close to the program, of course I want more, but also respect just how much has had to be done in such a small sliver when you consider, historically, how far back the history of this "not really a football school" goes.
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Not to mention .. too late ... we named our stadium after a former HC, who was 57-46-19 over 13 seasons at ISU. His only record setting accomplishment was to have the highest Tie % in college history. 19 of his 26 ties were at ISU. A rather dubious record, though he did easily beat out Alonzo Stagg on the record.
 
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CaliRdBrd said:
That’s the only thing that would get him extended.
That said, I doubt 7-4 gets us in.
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Coach Spack's contract runs through 2025 and I haven't heard any admins talk about an extension. Coach Spack has dropped hints that he is close to retirement, so I don't believe he has any intension of going past '25. He could even chuck it all after '24 with DC Travis Niekamp in line for the promotion if we choose to hire from within.

I agree on the 7-4.
 
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Total Red said:
Coach Spack's contract runs through 2025 and I haven't heard any admins talk about an extension. Coach Spack has dropped hints that he is close to retirement, so I don't believe he has any intension of going past '25. He could even chuck it all after '24 with DC Travis Niekamp in line for the promotion if we choose to hire from within.

I agree on the 7-4.
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I really hope they hire an offensive coach
 
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While I agree you always hire the best candidate, if all things are pretty much equal go offense. And I was a DC before I was an HC. The offense is the more complex side of the ball, QB is the most important position by a lot and as a head coach, you are the only constant in your program. Everyone else at some point flies the coop. Just my opinion but I think since Beathard left our O-side turnover and lack of QB development bears this out.
 
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TIMMY said:
While I agree you always hire the best candidate, if all things are pretty much equal go offense. And I was a DC before I was an HC. The offense is the more complex side of the ball, QB is the most important position by a lot and as a head coach, you are the only constant in your program. Everyone else at some point flies the coop. Just my opinion but I think since Beathard left our O-side turnover and lack of QB development bears this out.
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I was a Beathard fan for sure .. not just knowledgeable but also a QB whisperer type. Which can be very helpful when playing for a guy like Spack in charge. I said this a lot at time .. IMO Kolbe's 1st strong year under Dickens was a hangover from Beathard who was Kolbes OC for 2.5 years before leaving suddenly that summer. Dickens was quite the opposite personality and was bad at absorbing Spack's wrath like Beathard would.

I have no idea if Peterson is good at absorbing Spack's wrath when things go wrong. But this year seems less reactive to negatives than last year. Not sure if true but sure seems like it.

Next year will be big test for Peterson without Annexstad. But to this point, I think he is what we've been looking for since Beathard.

Let's keep him .. he will attract offensive talent from HS and portal.
 
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