vs. San Diego State 12/1/18

[WoodlandWarrior]

Have to say that I’m intrigued by the rumors of eligibility of one iof our new guys. Is anyone putting stock in that? Would really like to hear opinions.

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

Have to say that I’m intrigued by the rumors of eligibility of one iof our new guys. Is anyone putting stock in that? Would really like to hear opinions.

If it is the player I am hoping then another big inside could be a big deal. I just do not know how good a true frosh is going to be but even another body is big help.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Have to say that I’m intrigued by the rumors of eligibility of one iof our new guys. Is anyone putting stock in that? Would really like to hear opinions.

Keith would be great but is in a cast. Ndiaye is academically ineligible so it's not him. Hillsman and donnelly aren't going to help much. Boyd would be a great add. Maybe he can take evans' spot and Evan can be on thd bench where he belongs. He may be the most overrated player on the team.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Have to say that I’m intrigued by the rumors of eligibility of one iof our new guys. Is anyone putting stock in that? Would really like to hear opinions.

Keith would be great but is in a cast. Ndiaye is academically ineligible so it's not him. Hillsman and donnelly aren't going to help much. Boyd would be a great add. Maybe he can take evans' spot and Evan can be on thd bench where he belongs. He may be the most overrated player on the team.

He was part of the big 3 last year. Maybe it was a career year. He’s struggling, but my guess is he ends up closer to last year by season’s end. It’s called a slump. Like the posting slump you’re in.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Like the posting slump you’re in.

Arrow in the heart. How will I ever recover?

 

[cpacmel]

ISU has arguably 2 of the best 4 or 5 post players in the league and neither of them touches the ball on the block on probably 50-60% of the possessions.

This isn't true at all.

Phil and Milik got the ball in the post a ton today. And just about every time San Diego State ran a double team at them.

 

[Manchester Matt]

Have to say that I’m intrigued by the rumors of eligibility of one iof our new guys. Is anyone putting stock in that? Would really like to hear opinions.

Keith would be great but is in a cast. Ndiaye is academically ineligible so it's not him. Hillsman and donnelly aren't going to help much. Boyd would be a great add. Maybe he can take evans' spot and Evan can be on thd bench where he belongs. He may be the most overrated player on the team.

The guy in the cast is the one he’s talking about. Fortunately, he won’t be in the cast much longer if he does indeed get cleared.

 

[Brick]

Muller’s inability to run the offense through Fayne and Yarb in the post is really bad coaching in my opinion. Copeland and Jefferson and Evans are pretty shoot shooters but they are not strong enough off the dribble to run the offense that way.

And Muller should know this. He should know that Fayne and Yarb in th block is the best chance to score every time down and that open jump shots will come through the patience of working the ball inside out.

A total lack of recognition and discipline here is reducing any possible advantage ISU has

other teams know that too and adjust. The ISU team is what it is..over rated on talent especially as respects to bench and also short on bodies.

You don’t have to adjust to anything when the head coach doesn’t do it.

ISU has arguably 2 of the best 4 or 5 post players in the league and neither of them touches the ball on the block on probably 50-60% of the possessions.

Every time Fayne and Milik got the ball on the block they got double teamed. I don't know what game you were watching. Until they kick it out and somebody else can score that is gonna be the story. Once we get someone other than Jefferson shooting it well we are gonna have problems. Milik kicked it out numerous times and we barely drew iron. At the end of the game Milik got to go one on one and he scored or drew a foul. No one can handle him one on one

 

[V Boy]

ISU has arguably 2 of the best 4 or 5 post players in the league and neither of them touches the ball on the block on probably 50-60% of the possessions.

This isn't true at all.

Phil and Milik got the ball in the post a ton today. And just about every time San Diego State ran a double team at them.

I’m talking in general throughout the season.

Milik isn’t even on the block half the time. Phil is but half the time it’s 3 perimeter passes and a jump shot and he doesn’t touch it.

You’re not being honest with yourself if you actually think Muller is disciplined about this.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Muller likes the 3. That's what he wants.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Muller likes the 3. That's what he wants.

I like the NCAA. That’s what I want.

 

[cpacmel]

ISU has arguably 2 of the best 4 or 5 post players in the league and neither of them touches the ball on the block on probably 50-60% of the possessions.

This isn't true at all.

Phil and Milik got the ball in the post a ton today. And just about every time San Diego State ran a double team at them.

I’m talking in general throughout the season.

Milik isn’t even on the block half the time. Phil is but half the time it’s 3 perimeter passes and a jump shot and he doesn’t touch it.

You’re not being honest with yourself if you actually think Muller is disciplined about this.

The last 2 games Milik had a taller / more athletic player guarding him. You wanting him to post up or go high post is silly IMO. He has no advantage there. His posting up might work when he has a smaller defender on him but not the last 2 games.

Muller hasn’t been happy about the ball movement. He said as much today. Said it gets to one side of the court and never gets reverserved like it should.

You call that undisciplined on Muller’s part. I call it selfish play on our team’s part. Lots of hero ball going on when things start going south.

Regardless the game was lost today because of poor outside shooting. Their starting pg went for what 22 points today? Ours went for 2. We aren’t going to win going 5 for 25 from distance.

I don’t even blame the rebounding on today’s loss. 2nd chance points were similar after all. Turnovers too.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Muller likes the 3. That's what he wants.

I like the NCAA. That’s what I want.

Not this year my friend. Maybe if we gI've 18 more chances hell luck into it one year.

 

[V Boy]

This isn't true at all.

Phil and Milik got the ball in the post a ton today. And just about every time San Diego State ran a double team at them.

I’m talking in general throughout the season.

Milik isn’t even on the block half the time. Phil is but half the time it’s 3 perimeter passes and a jump shot and he doesn’t touch it.

You’re not being honest with yourself if you actually think Muller is disciplined about this.

The last 2 games Milik had a taller / more athletic player guarding him. You wanting him to post up or go high post is silly IMO. He has no advantage there. His posting up might work when he has a smaller defender on him but not the last 2 games.

Muller hasn’t been happy about the ball movement. He said as much today. Said it gets to one side of the court and never gets reverserved like it should.

You call that undisciplined on Muller’s part. I call it selfish play on our team’s part. Lots of hero ball going on when things start going south.

Regardless the game was lost today because of poor outside shooting. Their starting pg went for what 22 points today? Ours went for 2. We aren’t going to win going 5 for 25 from distance.

I don’t even blame the rebounding on today’s loss. 2nd chance points were similar after all. Turnovers too.

Our guards are not quick enough to create shots for the post players. It needs to be the other way around. Consistently (whether it worked today or not).

And Yarbrough is 6-6, 230 with the ability to put it on the floor in each direction....shoot the 15 footer at a high percentage....or find Fayne or kick out to guards. He’s Rico Hill with better ball-handling and passing.

What Yarbrough is not is a 6-6 230 lb 2-guard. He had 6 turnovers today. Again. He is a borderline liability on the perimeter.

We’re not going to beat Indiana St, SIU and Loyola on the perimeter. We need to beat them inside out.

 

[bombay]

This is like a big deal. Right?

 

[bombay]

This is like a big deal. Right?

 

[cpacmel]

We’re not going to beat Indiana St, SIU and Loyola on the perimeter. We need to beat them inside out.

Well if today was an indication, teams aren’t going to let Phil beat them. He was doubled every time he touched the ball anywhere near the block. Now Phil does a ton right but passing out of a double team isn’t something he does well.

When Milik got doubled he found open players. They need to knock down those looks. Thankfully JJ has done that consistently. Key and Tinsley have not. Copeland has been decent at it.

One thing I don’t understand with Muller was the roster this season. Even 100% healthy we are still 1 big guy short. Probably closer to 2 bigs short. Even if he thought Abdou might be able to play, we needed a juco big or grad transfer big.

 

[cpacmel]

And Yarbrough is 6-6, 230 with the ability to put it on the floor in each direction....shoot the 15 footer at a high percentage....or find Fayne or kick out to guards. He’s Rico Hill with better ball-handling and passing.

What Yarbrough is not is a 6-6 230 lb 2-guard. He had 6 turnovers today. Again. He is a borderline liability on the perimeter.

Do you honestly think Dan Muller is not trying to put players in position for a successful team?

What reason would he have not too?

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

Have to say that I’m intrigued by the rumors of eligibility of one iof our new guys. Is anyone putting stock in that? Would really like to hear opinions.

Keith would be great but is in a cast. Ndiaye is academically ineligible so it's not him. Hillsman and donnelly aren't going to help much. Boyd would be a great add. Maybe he can take evans' spot and Evan can be on thd bench where he belongs. He may be the most overrated player on the team.

He was part of the big 3 last year. Maybe it was a career year. He’s struggling, but my guess is he ends up closer to last year by season’s end. It’s called a slump. Like the posting slump you’re in.

Believe Evans will rise up offensively but he has always been vulnerable on the defensive end so I don't understand all of the sudden criticism of his defense. Evans did not garner any all MVC team status last year in part due to injuries and also marginal to weak defense. You can only call them the big 3 when it comes to offense, IMO.

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

I’m talking in general throughout the season.

Milik isn’t even on the block half the time. Phil is but half the time it’s 3 perimeter passes and a jump shot and he doesn’t touch it.

You’re not being honest with yourself if you actually think Muller is disciplined about this.

The last 2 games Milik had a taller / more athletic player guarding him. You wanting him to post up or go high post is silly IMO. He has no advantage there. His posting up might work when he has a smaller defender on him but not the last 2 games.

Muller hasn’t been happy about the ball movement. He said as much today. Said it gets to one side of the court and never gets reverserved like it should.

You call that undisciplined on Muller’s part. I call it selfish play on our team’s part. Lots of hero ball going on when things start going south.

Regardless the game was lost today because of poor outside shooting. Their starting pg went for what 22 points today? Ours went for 2. We aren’t going to win going 5 for 25 from distance.

I don’t even blame the rebounding on today’s loss. 2nd chance points were similar after all. Turnovers too.

Our guards are not quick enough to create shots for the post players. It needs to be the other way around. Consistently (whether it worked today or not).

And Yarbrough is 6-6, 230 with the ability to put it on the floor in each direction....shoot the 15 footer at a high percentage....or find Fayne or kick out to guards. He’s Rico Hill with better ball-handling and passing.

What Yarbrough is not is a 6-6 230 lb 2-guard. He had 6 turnovers today. Again. He is a borderline liability on the perimeter.

We’re not going to beat Indiana St, SIU and Loyola on the perimeter. We need to beat them inside out.

Yarbrough and team most effective when he is facing the basket. Take the ball out of his hands on the perimeter and we have very few players that are capable of creating/running an offense.