vs. San Diego State 12/1/18

[Redbird222]

Evans Stats Trend
Yr/games 2pt% 3pt% ft% pt/g. A/g. TO/g
18/1-10. 47.3. 49.3. 74.4. 18.6. 4.4. 2.3
18/11 - 20 37.1. 42.6. 67.6. 13.6. 2.7. 2.2
18/21 - 30. 29.4. 34.6. 84.6. 13.4 3.6. 1.8
19/1 - 9. 40.7. 30.8. 70.6. 7.8. 2.4. 1.8

I broke the last 39 games essentially into 4 buckets. Not only is the shooting percentages down but the attempts have dropped off considerably. For example Key took 71, 68, and 78 3 point attempts in games 1-10, 11-20, and 21-30 last year respectively. He has taken 39 in the first 9 games this year. This is a lot of offense efficiency missing year over year.

 

[Sladerunningbear]

These long athletic teams just give us trouble

Aren’t we considered to be “long and athletic”? Doesn’t seem to affect anyone we play.

We are considered long and athletic against me, but not against teams we play.

 

[Sladerunningbear]

If you don’t have a point guard or an inside game what do you hang your hat on...3-point shooting. Good luck with that.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

they do have an inside game they just cant convert. they missed at least 10 shots 3 feet or less from the basket. half would have tied the game

 

[DWRedbird]

Yarbrough and team most effective when he is facing the basket. Take the ball out of his hands on the perimeter and we have very few players that are capable of creating/running an offense.

I agree with this. Yarbs is out best facilitator. No he is not a strong dribbler east and west, but he can take it to the basket and has great court vision. I dont mind posting him up occasionally but doing it all the time takes away more than half of his effectiveness.

Couple of my other notes from yesterday's game:

--Feel like the board should have commenting disable for 12hrs after we lose based in some of things I've read so far. We lost to a better team. I wanted to win, but shot like garbage and still managed to be within 5 of a good team at the end, so the sky isnt falling yet.

--This game should be a perfect example on why we shouldn't rely on jump shots. When we took the ball to the basket we kept it close, when we became a jump shooting team SDSU took over.

--Were I Muller I would tell our guards to do two things. 1. Stop jumping to block a shot. Unless you are coming over on help defense or have the last name of Fayne, Yarborough, or Tinsley stay on your feet. Our guards already cant keep their men in front of them, we dont need them jumping at even the slightest notion that the other team is going to shoot. 2. Tell our guards to forget about the fast break and go for the damn ball on the defensive end. On 4 separate occasions I saw our guards run away from the ball and allowed SDSU get an offensive rebound. I get they want to break out, but we need the damn ball to do that.

--Yarbs is fine. He is busting his ass in both ends if the floor, playing hard. I would agree he isnt a leader, but he isn't supposed to be. I'm not his biggest fan, but he isnt the problem.

-- I agree we need to feed Fayne more.

--Boogie needs to stop shooting 3s. His stroke isnt there, and he cant get in rythem. Throw some shot fakes and drive to the basket, make layups and draw fouls should be his game.

--With at least one of our scholarships for next year we need to recruit a forward or center whose main job is to defend and rebound.

--Highlight of the game was when the arm flailing inflatable reggie they blow up during second half opponent FTs attacked the students in the student section.

 

[Chicagobirdfan]

ISU has arguably 2 of the best 4 or 5 post players in the league and neither of them touches the ball on the block on probably 50-60% of the possessions.

This isn't true at all.

Phil and Milik got the ball in the post a ton today. And just about every time San Diego State ran a double team at them.

It’s frustrsting Noone cuts to the basket. How easy was it for BYU to get layups off doubles? If your man doubles then cut to basket. Very easy.

 

[gobirds72]

Yarbrough and team most effective when he is facing the basket. Take the ball out of his hands on the perimeter and we have very few players that are capable of creating/running an offense.

I agree with this. Yarbs is out best facilitator. No he is not a strong dribbler east and west, but he can take it to the basket and has great court vision. I dont mind posting him up occasionally but doing it all the time takes away more than half of his effectiveness.

Couple of my other notes from yesterday's game:

--Feel like the board should have commenting disable for 12hrs after we lose based in some of things I've read so far. We lost to a better team. I wanted to win, but shot like garbage and still managed to be within 5 of a good team at the end, so the sky isnt falling yet.

--This game should be a perfect example on why we shouldn't rely on jump shots. When we took the ball to the basket we kept it close, when we became a jump shooting team SDSU took over.

--Were I Muller I would tell our guards to do two things. 1. Stop jumping to block a shot. Unless you are coming over on help defense or have the last name of Fayne, Yarborough, or Tinsley stay on your feet. Our guards already cant keep their men in front of them, we dont need them jumping at even the slightest notion that the other team is going to shoot. 2. Tell our guards to forget about the fast break and go for the damn ball on the defensive end. On 4 separate occasions I saw our guards run away from the ball and allowed SDSU get an offensive rebound. I get they want to break out, but we need the damn ball to do that.

--Yarbs is fine. He is busting his ass in both ends if the floor, playing hard. I would agree he isnt a leader, but he isn't supposed to be. I'm not his biggest fan, but he isnt the problem.

-- I agree we need to feed Fayne more.

--Boogie needs to stop shooting 3s. His stroke isnt there, and he cant get in rythem. Throw some shot fakes and drive to the basket, make layups and draw fouls should be his game.

--With at least one of our scholarships for next year we need to recruit a forward or center whose main job is to defend and rebound.

--Highlight of the game was when the arm flailing inflatable reggie they blow up during second half opponent FTs attacked the students in the student section.

If Yarborough facilitates and runs the point...people will complain about his turnovers. You have to pick your poison with this team. I agree with pacmel..we are a big short. Bruninga is a glorified guard...that won’t be the savior. We have one guard that can stroke the 3. This team is in trouble if someone doesn’t step up.

 

[redbirdron1]

Yes, other than JJ - nobody has the 3 eye. That's where TB comes in I foresee. TB won't help on the boards.

Muller has his hands full with this group when we face physical teams. I believe once we hit conference we'll see
Phil begin to finish stronger, William will find his shot on occasion and Key won't be so exposed on D. However, hit fast
forward as I hope we make it to the Sunday MVC finals; Boogie has got to make a few threes, Key play like a healthy guy
from the past and Chastain needs to b full speed. Maybe, we have a chance. This non-con schedule should pay dividends.

We are fortunate on several fronts. The 2 JC guards will get better. MY is eligible and Phil is currently making his free tosses. Chastain
can really b a special spark plug. I still hold out hope for the Gass to find his touch and with the intangibles, be a real fan fav. Personally, I'm
ok with yesterday's loss to a very talented team.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

I’m not sure we need a “big” as much as we need a sharpshooter. I mean, we haven’t had a decent outside shooter since maybe Schaefbauer?

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

I’m not sure we need a “big” as much as we need a sharpshooter. I mean, we haven’t had a decent outside shooter since maybe Schaefbauer?

i liked bryson and hill but its not like were running them through normal.

 

[redbirdron1]

Gotta place hope in the guy who's sporting the walking boot. Closest thing we got
and we know he can shoot.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

i think bryson is my favorite of all-time. just a shame what happened to him that last season or lack-thereof

 

[DWRedbird]

Yarbrough and team most effective when he is facing the basket. Take the ball out of his hands on the perimeter and we have very few players that are capable of creating/running an offense.

I agree with this. Yarbs is out best facilitator. No he is not a strong dribbler east and west, but he can take it to the basket and has great court vision. I dont mind posting him up occasionally but doing it all the time takes away more than half of his effectiveness.

Couple of my other notes from yesterday's game:

--Feel like the board should have commenting disable for 12hrs after we lose based in some of things I've read so far. We lost to a better team. I wanted to win, but shot like garbage and still managed to be within 5 of a good team at the end, so the sky isnt falling yet.

--This game should be a perfect example on why we shouldn't rely on jump shots. When we took the ball to the basket we kept it close, when we became a jump shooting team SDSU took over.

--Were I Muller I would tell our guards to do two things. 1. Stop jumping to block a shot. Unless you are coming over on help defense or have the last name of Fayne, Yarborough, or Tinsley stay on your feet. Our guards already cant keep their men in front of them, we dont need them jumping at even the slightest notion that the other team is going to shoot. 2. Tell our guards to forget about the fast break and go for the damn ball on the defensive end. On 4 separate occasions I saw our guards run away from the ball and allowed SDSU get an offensive rebound. I get they want to break out, but we need the damn ball to do that.

--Yarbs is fine. He is busting his ass in both ends if the floor, playing hard. I would agree he isnt a leader, but he isn't supposed to be. I'm not his biggest fan, but he isnt the problem.

-- I agree we need to feed Fayne more.

--Boogie needs to stop shooting 3s. His stroke isnt there, and he cant get in rythem. Throw some shot fakes and drive to the basket, make layups and draw fouls should be his game.

--With at least one of our scholarships for next year we need to recruit a forward or center whose main job is to defend and rebound.

--Highlight of the game was when the arm flailing inflatable reggie they blow up during second half opponent FTs attacked the students in the student section.

If Yarborough facilitates and runs the point...people will complain about his turnovers. You have to pick your poison with this team. I agree with pacmel..we are a big short. Bruninga is a glorified guard...that won’t be the savior. We have one guard that can stroke the 3. This team is in trouble if someone doesn’t step up.

I agree we are a big short. I think we need a big who defends and plays d. Were I Muller it would be my target in the offseason.

 

[Redbird Alum 2004]

So here is the thing. Is an at Large gonna happen? No but after watching the rest of league play multiple games this year I love our chances in league play and St Louis. They teams we have played are so much more athletic than our league. Fayne and Milik will have their way. I think Copeland will really start to shine as well. I do like that that is team hasn't quit a game yet. They just need to start with the same intensity they end with.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

I’m not sure we need a “big” as much as we need a sharpshooter. I mean, we haven’t had a decent outside shooter since maybe Schaefbauer?

Trey Guidry? Levi Dyer? He was pretty good too from the outside. Champ Oguchi, he was good too.

 

[gobirds72]

I agree with this. Yarbs is out best facilitator. No he is not a strong dribbler east and west, but he can take it to the basket and has great court vision. I dont mind posting him up occasionally but doing it all the time takes away more than half of his effectiveness.

Couple of my other notes from yesterday's game:

--Feel like the board should have commenting disable for 12hrs after we lose based in some of things I've read so far. We lost to a better team. I wanted to win, but shot like garbage and still managed to be within 5 of a good team at the end, so the sky isnt falling yet.

--This game should be a perfect example on why we shouldn't rely on jump shots. When we took the ball to the basket we kept it close, when we became a jump shooting team SDSU took over.

--Were I Muller I would tell our guards to do two things. 1. Stop jumping to block a shot. Unless you are coming over on help defense or have the last name of Fayne, Yarborough, or Tinsley stay on your feet. Our guards already cant keep their men in front of them, we dont need them jumping at even the slightest notion that the other team is going to shoot. 2. Tell our guards to forget about the fast break and go for the damn ball on the defensive end. On 4 separate occasions I saw our guards run away from the ball and allowed SDSU get an offensive rebound. I get they want to break out, but we need the damn ball to do that.

--Yarbs is fine. He is busting his ass in both ends if the floor, playing hard. I would agree he isnt a leader, but he isn't supposed to be. I'm not his biggest fan, but he isnt the problem.

-- I agree we need to feed Fayne more.

--Boogie needs to stop shooting 3s. His stroke isnt there, and he cant get in rythem. Throw some shot fakes and drive to the basket, make layups and draw fouls should be his game.

--With at least one of our scholarships for next year we need to recruit a forward or center whose main job is to defend and rebound.

--Highlight of the game was when the arm flailing inflatable reggie they blow up during second half opponent FTs attacked the students in the student section.

If Yarborough facilitates and runs the point...people will complain about his turnovers. You have to pick your poison with this team. I agree with pacmel..we are a big short. Bruninga is a glorified guard...that won’t be the savior. We have one guard that can stroke the 3. This team is in trouble if someone doesn’t step up.

I agree we are a big short. I think we need a big who defends and plays d. Were I Muller it would be my target in the offseason.

I agree! The guards better spend the off season shooting 1000 shots a day!

 

[Tpguy]

I’m not sure we need a “big” as much as we need a sharpshooter. I mean, we haven’t had a decent outside shooter since maybe Schaefbauer?

Trey Guidry? Levi Dyer? He was pretty good too from the outside. Champ Oguchi, he was good too.

Poor Levi, good Junior year, no so good his Senior year.

Shawn Jeppsen one of my favorites, broke every record at his High School held by his Father :clap:

 

[Reggie Redbird]

We’re not going to beat Indiana St, SIU and Loyola on the perimeter. We need to beat them inside out.

Well if today was an indication, teams aren’t going to let Phil beat them. He was doubled every time he touched the ball anywhere near the block. Now Phil does a ton right but passing out of a double team isn’t something he does well.

When Milik got doubled he found open players. They need to knock down those looks. Thankfully JJ has done that consistently. Key and Tinsley have not. Copeland has been decent at it.

One thing I don’t understand with Muller was the roster this season. Even 100% healthy we are still 1 big guy short. Probably closer to 2 bigs short. Even if he thought Abdou might be able to play, we needed a juco big or grad transfer big.

I agree. It seems like our recruiting was for guys to go in 2019-2020 versus this year. If we're going to have 2, 3, 4 guys eat up scholarships sitting out, we can't afford injuries. Unfortunately, we have 3 of those too. Unless Fisher becomes healthy and eligible, we are going to be short in the post all year. We needed whether it be a Slack or a Sampay, a JUCO or GR transfer post to help on the block.

 

[DBird]

I’m not sure we need a “big” as much as we need a sharpshooter. I mean, we haven’t had a decent outside shooter since maybe Schaefbauer?

Trey Guidry? Levi Dyer? He was pretty good too from the outside. Champ Oguchi, he was good too.

Poor Levi, good Junior year, no so good his Senior year.

Shawn Jeppsen one of my favorites, broke every record at his High School held by his Father :clap:

Not Doug? :think:

 

[SgtHulka]

So many things wrong with this team.

I hear Yaklich recruited many of them, so is anyone really surpeised?