Coach Shortlist

[Localfan]

All the schools you’ve mentioned hiring ACs are high majors though with sustained success. Two things ISU doesn’t have going for it. I’m just not looking forward to the beginning years of a first time head coach. Somebody like Powell, should he see success after 3-4 seasons here will be gone and we are back to square one. I agree though with having to still pay Muller, I can’t imagine ISU offers top dollar for any coach.

That is exactly why I suggest we look at coaches from lower levels. Can we find a successful head coach who simply wants a challenge of building a competitive D1 program?

 

[Adunk33]

Hinson actually lasted 7 years. His first three years with SIU, they finished 19th, 6th and 9th. His next 4 years with him they finished 4th-t, 3rd-t, 2nd, 3rd-t. Then they parted ways and brought in Mullins. Mullins then finished 5th and 9th. I would imagine this year is a crucial one for him.

Barry is a very interesting point to bring up. The word his he had made a deal with SIU's AD that if they did not win Arch Madness, that he would step down. I remember watching the postgame presser where he formally stepped down. I don't remember seeing if there was money associated with Hinson stepping down, but it seemed like his options were; win at the Arch, step down, or your fired. You choose.

There is a world where I could see Muller doing something similar in an attempt to save some face with ISU. After this season, assuming they don't win it all, I've gotta think he spends some time in reflection over the past decade. I know its a long season, but often times, especially at a school ISU's size, the most important game of the season is the last one. If you look at the Birds' schedule over the last decade, the letter associated with it is an L and the "most prestigious" ones were in the second round of the NIT. Now, I doubt Muller does that because he believes he's got solid pieces in place, and I think so too, but can he coach them to 3 or 4 games in 3 days? Doubtful. It's unlikely Muller steps down but like I said, could be a way to save some face.

As far as bringing in a first-time head coach, why not? What's the worst that could happen? Birds play 3 Thursday nights in a row and never make the NCAA tournament?

 

[CaliRdBrd]

How about Dooley from ECU? Loved him when he was at FGCU. That kinda high flying offense would put asses in the seats.

 

[ISU86]

How about Dooley from ECU? Loved him when he was at FGCU. That kinda high flying offense would put asses in the seats.

and what would motivate him to leave the AAC for the MVC (and, FWIW, the 'birds are averaging six more points/game than the Pirates)?

 

[topiarydan]

Below is our next coach -

A.W. Hamilton - Head Coach - Staff Directory - Eastern Kentucky University Athletics

Follow @CoachAWHamilton A.W. Hamilton has taken Colonel basketball to heights very few coaches who came before him have reached. In many cases he has accomplished

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[CaliRdBrd]

and what would motivate him to leave the AAC for the MVC (and, FWIW, the 'birds are averaging six more points/game than the Pirates)?

Pity?

 

[Redbird28]

Below is our next coach -

A.W. Hamilton - Head Coach - Staff Directory - Eastern Kentucky University Athletics

Follow @CoachAWHamilton A.W. Hamilton has taken Colonel basketball to heights very few coaches who came before him have reached. In many cases he has accomplished

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Looks good on paper, but probably would be difficult to get him to move from his home state unless it's for a job at a more prestigious home state school. I guess money talks, but we kind of have a sense of how the program is with regards to money these days.

 

[isuquinndog]

Indy St will be an interesting case study in a few seasons to see if their head coach coming from D2 works out.

 

[ISU86]

Indy St will be an interesting case study in a few seasons to see if their head coach coming from D2 works out.

Their two coaches pre-Greg Lansing were from the D-II ranks (Royce Waltman, Kevin McKenna).

 

[SgtHulka]

Wayne Brent - Men's Basketball Coach - Jackson State University

Wayne Brent enters his ninth season at the helm of the Jackson State men's basketball program. Brent was named to the post as Head Men’s Basketball Coach on March

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He has proven he can compete in the Valley with a team, who be design is pay for play fodder in the noncon. Impressive HS resume too

 

[Birgs]

Chin Coleman

Without any "inside info" - you read his resume, he's gotta be itching to be an HC.

 

[Birdfriend72]

Only Archie Miller might give us the time of day and that's because he's not a coach now. I do like these candidates though.

Vermont has made the tournament 7 times since we last have.

NMSU has made the tournament 9 times since we last have.

There is no reason we shouldn't make the tournament. I'm sure the Vermont coach could recruit better here than at Vermont. I could be wrong- but with I-74 and 55 running to the heart of basketball country...there is no reason we shouldn't be better than Vermont.

 

[Birdfriend72]

Why would Mark Turgeon or Dana Altman go from making multi millions of dollars a year to making 250k a year? There are bigger schools that will give them more money than we could ever dream of. Those are pipe dreams. Beyond a pipe dream.

I don't disagree with you. That's why I think ISU would be wise to take a risk on a person like- Greg Marshall. I'm not saying it has to be Greg, but someone such as him...has to be on his best behavior.

 

[Birgs]

I don't disagree with you. That's why I think ISU would be wise to take a risk on a person like- Greg Marshall. I'm not saying it has to be Greg, but someone such as him...has to be on his best behavior.

If Gregg Marshall or Chris Jans come anywhere near to being hired in any capacity at Illinois State University, I will pull any allegiance to the program.

 

[Birdfriend72]

You seem to have missed this part: HIRE THE BEST FEMALE COACH NOW!

Are you saying that some of the best female BBall coaches out there are worse than Dan? I am really curious what the yearly salary ceiling is for the next coach at ISU. Is it $200K? If so around that pay area, then would one of the best female BBall coaches take a possibly pay cut to the first head coach of a D1 men's program? I do not believe ISU has anything else going for it to keep up competitively pay wise for men's coaches, especially after Dan's debacle and ISU being financially stuck.

If it's $200,000 you better go get the best High School coach

If Gregg Marshall or Chris Jans come anywhere near to being hired in any capacity at Illinois State University, I will pull any allegiance to the program.

LOL- I'm sure if he is winning there will be 6000 to replace you. People have a short attention span when they are winning. You may not have liked Lebron James in Miami- but when he plays on your team all is forgotten. I just want to win!

 

[Birgs]

I don't disagree with you. That's why I think ISU would be wise to take a risk on a person like- Greg Marshall. I'm not saying it has to be Greg, but someone such as him...has to be on his best behavi

If it's $200,000 you better go get the best High School coach

LOL- I'm sure if he is winning there will be 6000 to replace you. People have a short attention span when they are winning. You may not have liked Lebron James in Miami- but when he plays on your team all is forgotten. I just want to win!

If it's $200,000 you better go get the best High School coach

LOL- I'm sure if he is winning there will be 6000 to replace you. People have a short attention span when they are winning. You may not have liked Lebron James in Miami- but when he plays on your team all is forgotten. I just want to win!

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If it's $200,000 you better go get the best High School coach

LOL- I'm sure if he is winning there will be 6000 to replace you. People have a short attention span when they are winning. You may not have liked Lebron James in Miami- but when he plays on your team all is forgotten. I just want to win!

So you believe, that at an institution of higher learning, it is more important to win and lose games than to improve student athletes. Wins and Losses is all. Go hang out with Bruce Pearl and some more sanctions, bro.

 

[Birdfriend72]

If it's $200,000 you better go get the best High School coach

LOL- I'm sure if he is winning there will be 6000 to replace you. People have a short attention span when they are winning. You may not have liked Lebron James in Miami- but when he plays on your team all is forgotten. I just want to win!

So you believe, that at an institution of higher learning, it is more important to win and lose games than to improve student athletes. Wins and Losses is all. Go hang out with Bruce Pearl and some more sanctions, bro.

Shouldn't all schools be about improving athletes? I don't know what you mean by the word- improving. I'm guessing you mean...making them a better person. I don't think Dan's track record is superb on neither level. His transfer rate might be higher than his graduation rate- or close to it. His winning percentage for the last 4 years is lousy. You can only live off the glory year that got you nowhere for so long. If you make $600,000 a year- you should at least be able to generate that revenue back to the University to make your job worth the investment. The fact ticket sales are way down, and so is his won-loss ratio. That's why we are playing the sisters of the poor so much this year.

 

[ISUBird]

There is no reason we shouldn't make the tournament. I'm sure the Vermont coach could recruit better here than at Vermont. I could be wrong- but with I-74 and 55 running to the heart of basketball country...there is no reason we shouldn't be better than Vermont.

There's no reason, but There's been no reason the past quarter century as well and those schools have made it.

Also, Gregg Marshall is a disgusting person and should not even be considered.

 

[Birgs]

"Glory Year"

You have no clue what that program has endured.

Development rather than scoreboard.

This is a school. These are players.

Coach Rich & Dan. Yes. Probably career assistants (many said that of K.S.) but, oh, wait...Porter is a hero and headed to the SEC.

 

[Birdfriend72]

"Glory Year"

You have no clue what that program has endured.

Development rather than scoreboard.

This is a school. These are players.

Coach Rich & Dan. Yes. Probably career assistants (many said that of K.S.) but, oh, wait...Porter is a hero and headed to the SEC.

All 68 schools that play in the NCAA Tournament are "schools". Quit trying to make ISU a victim. They are a victim of their own decisions and circumstances.