Righting the ship

[SgtHulka]

We clearly don't get 4 and 5 star players now, but Bubbles Hawkins and Cyrus Mann were Top 10 national players when they came here and Roger Powell was top 25. We had a number of other players that would have been 4* if that system existed then.

Different times for sure good Dr

Yessir. I'd be surprised if we didn't have a beer together at Bingo's, Barney's Caboose, Digger's, C2 East or somewhere back in the day. Timmy, too.

My fake ID skills weren't that strong. I was in Jr High around that time.

 

[Bird Friend]

From the ESPN article regarding Houston football coach being fired.

"winning is defined at the University of Houston as 10-2 ... We'll fire coaches at 8-4"

This is how ISU needs to start thinking. The above numbers is success is 83% and failure is 67%. I realize thay quote is regarding football but Coach Muller is in the 50's.

I get your point but do you really base a decision like that on a partial season? Would you fire a coach who started the season 1-1? That's in the 50s?

No, I would give any coach a few seasons to figure it out and get their own type of players in their system, of course. My in the 50's statement was regarding his whole 6.5 years at the helm. I really was wishing Muller would be the one and maybe even stay because he has ties if ISU gave a fair salary even though they can't compete with P6 money. Who knows, maybe he still is because he's not going anywhere. Like someone else said he was 2017 coach of the year so he has a grace period and I'm excited about the young players here. I was excited about this team, as well. Head scratcher. But, the team two years ago sucked in the first two months so there is that to hold on to this season and nobody is running away with anything.

Muller has a 129-86 career record currently . . . that's 60%. 67 - 41 in MVC, 62%.

For comparison . . . Donewald--whom some on here consider our most successful coach--had a career winning percentage of 63%. Stallings was at 66%. Jankovich, even with his very weak non-conf schedule, was at 62%.

So, unless you were on board for firing Jankovich for non-performance, I'm not sure you can really say Muller's performance has been that bad.

 

[bombay]

Different times for sure good Dr

Yessir. I'd be surprised if we didn't have a beer together at Bingo's, Barney's Caboose, Digger's, C2 East or somewhere back in the day. Timmy, too.

Add the OLD Shannigans to the list Governor!!!

Ah, yes. Jigga and Pampel would have been good buds.

 

[TIMMY]

Yessir. I'd be surprised if we didn't have a beer together at Bingo's, Barney's Caboose, Digger's, C2 East or somewhere back in the day. Timmy, too.

Add the OLD Shannigans to the list Governor!!!

Ah, yes. Jigga and Pampel would have been good buds.

Steve was a huge basketball fan. I brought Roger P. in there once. One beer and off to S$P! I never forgot that.

 

[bombay]

Add the OLD Shannigans to the list Governor!!!

Ah, yes. Jigga and Pampel would have been good buds.

Steve was a huge basketball fan. I brought Roger P. in there once. One beer and off to S$P! I never forgot that.

PM sent

 

[TIMMY]

Ah, yes. Jigga and Pampel would have been good buds.

Steve was a huge basketball fan. I brought Roger P. in there once. One beer and off to S$P! I never forgot that.

PM sent

Can't find

 

[Baltimore Bird]

Colonel Krittendon. Love that guy on Hogan!

 

[SgtHulka]

Colonel Krittendon. Love that guy on Hogan!

But he was Dr Bombay on Bewitched

 

[stats]

Colonel Krittendon. Love that guy on Hogan!

But he was Dr Bombay on Bewitched

Calling Dr. Bombay. Calling Dr. Bombay. Emergency. Come Right Away.
(Maybe Dan should have tried saying that early in the UCF game.)

 

[SgtHulka]

Colonel Krittendon. Love that guy on Hogan!

But he was Dr Bombay on Bewitched

Calling Dr. Bombay. Calling Dr. Bombay. Emergency. Come Right Away.
(Maybe Dan should have tried saying that early in the UCF game.)

Unfortunately he Used his phone a friend on Aunt Clara

 

[TIMMY]

Steve was a huge basketball fan. I brought Roger P. in there once. One beer and off to S$P! I never forgot that.

PM sent

Can't find

enable your private message receipt. not letting me reply.

 

[ricohill]

I get your point but do you really base a decision like that on a partial season? Would you fire a coach who started the season 1-1? That's in the 50s?

No, I would give any coach a few seasons to figure it out and get their own type of players in their system, of course. My in the 50's statement was regarding his whole 6.5 years at the helm. I really was wishing Muller would be the one and maybe even stay because he has ties if ISU gave a fair salary even though they can't compete with P6 money. Who knows, maybe he still is because he's not going anywhere. Like someone else said he was 2017 coach of the year so he has a grace period and I'm excited about the young players here. I was excited about this team, as well. Head scratcher. But, the team two years ago sucked in the first two months so there is that to hold on to this season and nobody is running away with anything.

Muller has a 129-86 career record currently . . . that's 60%. 67 - 41 in MVC, 62%.

For comparison . . . Donewald--whom some on here consider our most successful coach--had a career winning percentage of 63%. Stallings was at 66%. Jankovich, even with his very weak non-conf schedule, was at 62%.

So, unless you were on board for firing Jankovich for non-performance, I'm not sure you can really say Muller's performance has been that bad.

Until someone goes to the NCAA Tournament 3 years in a row no one compares to Donewald.

The MVC was also incredibly tougher when Donewald and Jankovich were here.

 

[bombay]

PM sent

Can't find

enable your private message receipt. not letting me reply.

Done.

 

[Bird Friend]

No, I would give any coach a few seasons to figure it out and get their own type of players in their system, of course. My in the 50's statement was regarding his whole 6.5 years at the helm. I really was wishing Muller would be the one and maybe even stay because he has ties if ISU gave a fair salary even though they can't compete with P6 money. Who knows, maybe he still is because he's not going anywhere. Like someone else said he was 2017 coach of the year so he has a grace period and I'm excited about the young players here. I was excited about this team, as well. Head scratcher. But, the team two years ago sucked in the first two months so there is that to hold on to this season and nobody is running away with anything.

Muller has a 129-86 career record currently . . . that's 60%. 67 - 41 in MVC, 62%.

For comparison . . . Donewald--whom some on here consider our most successful coach--had a career winning percentage of 63%. Stallings was at 66%. Jankovich, even with his very weak non-conf schedule, was at 62%.

So, unless you were on board for firing Jankovich for non-performance, I'm not sure you can really say Muller's performance has been that bad.

Until someone goes to the NCAA Tournament 3 years in a row no one compares to Donewald.

The MVC was also incredibly tougher when Donewald and Jankovich were here.

Show me how the Valley was "incredibly" tougher--top to bottom--and I'm willing to grant you that argument. But just saying it isn't sufficient. Also, I was arguing the "Dan is in the 50's" comment, which isn't true to this point.

 

[Birdman07]

Yeah, u was wrong. He's exactly 60%. One more loss he's in the 50's. I counted 57% somehow. Anyways, hopefully 21-0 coming up. 28-6 with an 11 seed!

 

[Brick]

Muller has a 129-86 career record currently . . . that's 60%. 67 - 41 in MVC, 62%.

For comparison . . . Donewald--whom some on here consider our most successful coach--had a career winning percentage of 63%. Stallings was at 66%. Jankovich, even with his very weak non-conf schedule, was at 62%.

So, unless you were on board for firing Jankovich for non-performance, I'm not sure you can really say Muller's performance has been that bad.

Until someone goes to the NCAA Tournament 3 years in a row no one compares to Donewald.

The MVC was also incredibly tougher when Donewald and Jankovich were here.

Show me how the Valley was "incredibly" tougher--top to bottom--and I'm willing to grant you that argument. But just saying it isn't sufficient. Also, I was arguing the "Dan is in the 50's" comment, which isn't true to this point.

Don’t know about top to bottom but Tulsa, Creighton and Wichita were always tough

 

[stats]

1985 NBA Draft Class included 5 Missouri Valley Players.
Without cheating, can anyone fill in any of the players
3rd overall pick from Creighton was.........
4th overall pick from Wichita was............
19th overall pick from Tulsa was..............
34th overall pick was from Wichita...........
44th overall pick was from Bradley.................

 

[Redbird222]

1985 NBA Draft Class included 5 Missouri Valley Players.
Without cheating, can anyone fill in any of the players
3rd overall pick from Creighton was.........
4th overall pick from Wichita was............
19th overall pick from Tulsa was..............
34th overall pick was from Wichita...........
44th overall pick was from Bradley.................

My freshman year so I can play this game

Benoit Benjamin
Xavier McDaniel
Steve Harris ?
Can't recall without cheating
Winters

 

[WoodlandWarrior]

Didn’t Wichita have Cliff Levingston and Aubrey Sherrod around that time?

 

[stats]

Nice job Redbird222 for getting 4 of them and Woodland for getting Sherrod

1985
1985 NBA Draft Class included 5 Missouri Valley Players.
Without cheating, can anyone fill in any of the players
3rd overall pick from Creighton was.........Benoit Benjamin
4th overall pick from Wichita was............Xavier McDaniel
19th overall pick from Tulsa was..............Steve Harris
34th overall pick was from Wichita...........Aubrey Sherrod
44th overall pick was from Bradley.................Voisie Winters

1982 wasn't bad either
9th pick Cliff Levingston (Wichita)
15th pick David Thirdkill (Bradley)
20th pick Paul Pressey (Tulsa)
36th pick JJ Anderson(Bradley)