Parting is such sweet sorrow

[vbird]

TP has cried wolf before. He’s not going anywhere.

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[Phantom]

I think 19-12...and a CBI bid for a team with 3-4 seniors is a failed season. You can call it what you want. Anything less than an NCAA bid for me would be a failure. I know you sound excited just to be 1/120 teams playing in March. I see it different.

I need to hear it from you, 72. ISU was screwed by the committee 2 years ago. Not only was that a tournament team, but it was a tournament team with Elite 8 potential. And we didn't get in because we are in the Valley and the committee thought that "big name" schools with far worse resumes, top to bottom, would make more money. Literally no other reason.

This is why I take the "20 year no tournament" stat and plop a giant font 25 size asterisk on it. If a 26 win (12-1) conference champion with T25 wins isn't getting into the show, then the deck is clearly stacked against.

Me, I enjoy the product and would rather have 10 seasons of 19-12 and the NIT/CBI than 8 seasons of sub 16 wins, one 20 win NIT season and 1 22 win Arch Madness tourney title.

Remember when Drake made the tourney a decade ago and the entire landscape of their program shifted and they were getting all those 3-4 star recruits and were never plopped back down into the Thursday games again? Neither do I.

I thought the team 2 years ago had 2nd weekend potential, but the 2nd round NIT home game loss put some perspective on that. ISU has mastered laying an egg in anything resembling a big moment.

This.

We've been able to get to the big stage (ie:/ MVC tourney title games, the occasional big non-con, etc.) but just can't win on it. Even when we do, like beating WSU by 14 on national TV two years ago, there's always been an enormous slip-up elsewhere to counter it.

Furthermore, I'll again say that I don't think we were snubbed in '17. If that was ten years earlier, we would've waltzed in with an at-large by the first week of February. Unfortunately the conference was bad, and the two other times we faced WSU we were blown out. Additionally, we beat NOBODY that year and had some bad losses as well. I said at the end of January we'd have no chance at an at-large. MAYBE had we not gotten nuked in the title game it would've been different, but then we're talking about 2008 all over again.

OK no more of that. The past is the past And the past isn't bad. 18+ wins in 10 of 11 years and multiple postseasons is nothing to scoff at. We've actually been one of the most consistent programs in the Valley since 2008. It's just not quite where we all want to be...