Norfolk St- Horton Game

[Hamdonger]

This, 100%. If that really is the case, there is zero excuse for it and should be zero tolerance either. That kind of shit makes the whole university look bad, not just what's left of our fanbase. We're so much better than that. Ban the prick from all future games.

IF he/they made a truly racist statement, then yes he and the others should be tossed immediately and banned. Are we sure that's what happened?? Was anyone sitting close enough to hear the actual banter??

 

[WoodlandWarrior]

I got curious on the "sparking the offense with 3's" portion and wanted to see if it was possible for this team. The results below are... scary.

Career 3-point numbers:

Banks - 29.8% on 161 attempts
Foster - 0% on 10 attempts
Poindexter - 33.7% on 175 attempts
Lewis - 29.7% on 158 attempts
Burford - 33.9% on 218 attempts
Kasubke - 31.7% on 202 attempts
Davis - 29.3% on 147 attempts
Lieb - 12.5% on 8 attempts
Pence - 0% on 10 attempts

Kinziger - 46.7% on 30 attempts

Seeing that, this year's team shooting 27% from 3 is very believable.

Slack my man, tell it like it is.... .....facts are facts and are undeniable.

 

[Hamdonger]

I got curious on the "sparking the offense with 3's" portion and wanted to see if it was possible for this team. The results below are... scary.

Career 3-point numbers:

Banks - 29.8% on 161 attempts
Foster - 0% on 10 attempts
Poindexter - 33.7% on 175 attempts
Lewis - 29.7% on 158 attempts
Burford - 33.9% on 218 attempts
Kasubke - 31.7% on 202 attempts
Davis - 29.3% on 147 attempts
Lieb - 12.5% on 8 attempts
Pence - 0% on 10 attempts

Kinziger - 46.7% on 30 attempts

Seeing that, this year's team shooting 27% from 3 is very believable.

Eye opener right there.

 

[Hamdonger]

I got curious on the "sparking the offense with 3's" portion and wanted to see if it was possible for this team. The results below are... scary.

Career 3-point numbers:

Banks - 29.8% on 161 attempts
Foster - 0% on 10 attempts
Poindexter - 33.7% on 175 attempts
Lewis - 29.7% on 158 attempts
Burford - 33.9% on 218 attempts
Kasubke - 31.7% on 202 attempts
Davis - 29.3% on 147 attempts
Lieb - 12.5% on 8 attempts
Pence - 0% on 10 attempts

Kinziger - 46.7% on 30 attempts

Seeing that, this year's team shooting 27% from 3 is very believable.

You have preached about our need to shoot 2 pointers, our 2pt percentage and efficiency as a result. I'm right there with you. I'm a BIG believer in just being a bucket getter. Matter of fact, and I know this sounds stupid simple, but the more buckets you make as a team the more effective you'll be long term and more importantly...even more confident when you're in a spot in the game where you NEED a bucket.

I want bucket getters. I don't care how many 3 pt shits, I mean, shots...we shoot! I want someone who can score when we need it!!!!!! I have lost count the number of games I've seen in the pros, college, and high school where all you need is a bucket...a bucket...just a bucket...and someone dribbles for 20 seconds and throws up a 30 footer while 3 of his 4 teammates stand around the perimeter. When all you need is a frecking 5 footer. It really is stupid basketball. Just stupid. And frankly, I put it directly on coaching.

It drives me insane and makes me dislike this current game of ours. Dammit, now I just killed my buzz.

PS. If a kid can shoot the 3 with decent percentage, then let it fly. I'm not anti-3. But I am TOTALLY pro-bucketgetter.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Foster was all we had in the first 10 minutes. He really played well tonight and has been consistently performing all year. The last few games we've had other guys stepping up, just not tonight.

 

[GOP_Redbird]

 

[GOP_Redbird]

This will be on mainstream news tomorrow… people online calling for Pedon to resign.

 

[Hamdonger]

Do we absolutely know that happened?? Was anyone within earshot of that front row??

 

[GOP_Redbird]

 

[BirdGrad2011]

I have heard from people within earshot and nothing racist was said. 6 was chirping the entire game. He was gesturing and yelling constantly. Are we going to really believe a team that played the way they did? They put Banks in a damn chokehold on a shot attempt. Are you kidding me?

 

[CB2K]

I saw the entire thing unfold basically right in front of where I was sitting at center court a couple of rows up. There was mass confusion and tensions were very high. The NSU coach was upset and was yelling at the refs and in general. We now know why but I don’t think coach Pedon or anyone else knew that some ISU fans crossed the line.

When the NSU coach was yelling and upset he turned toward coach Pedon trying to express himself. You could hardly hear what he said due to the noise volume but it sounded like he was complaining about ISU players for a hard foul or a push or shove of his player. I think coach Pedon in turn was trying to protect his players and they then went head to head. It was confusion and pandemonium and a big misunderstanding from my viewpoint between what the NSU coach was trying to say in a crazy out of control manner and what coach Pedon interpreted it as. Hence, the craziness.

The NSU coach then had to be restrained several times as he was moving toward coach Pedon and the staff as well as toward the location of the bad acting fans across the way. I think there was a bit of histrionics with his actions but I can understand why. It was just a bad situation all the way around and with the confusion and emotions already running high for this type of a game and environment then things went haywire.

I thought the ISU staff did a great job coming in and calming the situation down. They listened to the NSU coaching staff and said they understood and assisted in identifying the culprits where security rightfully escorted them off the premises. I wonder if this will be the end of games at Horton - maybe skip a year but I would sure hate to see that. I hope the administration is not a prisoner of the moment and overreacts.

This game and atmosphere were electric and ISU just didn’t have a good offensive night except their defense was tremendous. Defense travels and plays even when your offense is blowing a big one. We came close to coming back because of the defense albeit the many ref bailouts of out of control Thomas. Some were such poor calls I thought we were back in the Lou playing SLU against the same guard who got the same benefit of bailouts. He’s a talent though and won the game for them but he got the benefit on 5-6 bailout calls.

 

[cpacmel]

Don't kill the messenger

“The reason why the guy got ejected is because the referee heard what he said,” Jones said. “Credit to the referees, all three of them was super apologetic, even though clearly they didn’t have anything to do with it, but they were all super apologetic about the situation. They cleaned up the situation quickly. … We were able to move forward and finish the basketball game because things could have really gotten ugly one way or the other. No matter what happened with me and (Pedon) at half court, things never really escalated to the point that people were fighting. When, when you say words like that, that it can easily lead to fights.”

Alleged racial slur from fan leads to NSU and Illinois State coaches’ shouting match during Spartans’ road victory

Norfolk State head coach Robert Jones explains what happened Saturday night during the Spartans’ game against Illinois State.

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[Manchester Matt]

Just returned home to St. Louis from the game. There’s zero chance Pedon could have heard anything Jones was saying from that distance with how loud it was in there.

Look, if that fan said what he said, then yes, eject him from the game and don’t let him back into future games. There’s no place for that.

But some of Jones’ comments taking shots at Pedon are an attack on his character and are ridiculous. Pretty obvious that Pedon tried to explain himself, but Jones continued with his narrative in the postgame comments anyway.

 

[Dmills]

I don't know what was said, but look at the beginning of the clip. After the foul was called the ref was right in front of where the fan was sitting. #6 began approaching the fan. The ref walked away. So I would say it is safe to assume that if the fan yelled something to cause #6 to approach him, the ref would have heard it.

Yea I don't know... To me it looks like Thomas got exactly what he wanted. He went over and jawed at the fans and then eventually turned and went to towards his huddle. He didn't really seem to take offense to anything that was said. If something inappropriate was said, you'd think he would have reacted differently and pointed at the fan or looked at the ref. The refs didn't react either, in fact, the ref pulled him aside to tell him to knock it off. All things considered, it is probably more likely than not something racist was said, but we are never going to know the truth.

*Not saying he wanted to be called a racial slur, of course. He wanted to get in the face of the fans.

 

[Dmills]

Men's Basketball Postgame Presser // Norfolk St

Video: Men's Basketball Postgame Presser // Norfolk St. Men's Basketball

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[Dmills]

It really is a shame the narrative spreading about Coach Pedon. Complete and utter defamation spreading like wildfire. Lots of people who were not at the game and do not know Coach Pedon with a lot to say. Everyone take note and be considerate of what you say online. People should not be trying to ruin a man's career over a misunderstanding in a high intensity moment. It's a sick world we live in.

 

[Birdfriend72]

Slack my man, tell it like it is.... .....facts are facts and are undeniable.

That’s why I’m not a big fan of chucking 30 3’s a game with this team! It doesn’t take an actuary to figure out this isn’t a good shooting team! The discipline is bad! Our bigs are shooting as many threes and time on the perimeter as they are posting on the block! We have only one identity as a team- thats find the quickest three and throw it up!

 

[Racine Bird 3813]

Not a good look from ISU tonight, on the basketball court. Went nearly 10 minutes in the second half without a FG. There were so many fouls called on both teams that there was no offensive rhythm or even a defensive rhythm for that matter. I believe both teams were in the double bonus with 9 minutes left. That is unheard of.

As far as the extracurriculars- if the fan said a racial slur then that fan should be banned. No place for that. If a racial slur was used, I have no problem with the NFSU coach arguing until the fan was removed. You back your players in that instance. As far as coach Pedon, by guess is when he was yelling at the NFSU coach he did not know what he was upset about or probably would have stayed out it or worked with security to have the fan removed. I would guess he thought the NFSU coach was bad at the ISU players to coach Pedon felt the need to back his players, which I have no problem with. They talked it out at the end. Move on.

 

[WoodlandWarrior]

IMO, Foster and Kinziger have shown themselves to be consistent, competitive D1 caliber players. The rest of the roster is an assemblage of individuals who occasionally might have a good game, but never on a consistent basis. It many ways the roster construction reminds me of Wardle’s early Bradley years. It will take a while to field the team we want, if it can be done at all. Players who saw little action at their prior D1 schools will not have an immediate impact on our success. Witness Davis, Kasubke, Lieb, etc. Therefore perhaps we should look at proven D2 transfer portal players.

 

[GOP_Redbird]

Just returned home to St. Louis from the game. There’s zero chance Pedon could have heard anything Jones was saying from that distance with how loud it was in there.

Look, if that fan said what he said, then yes, eject him from the game and don’t let him back into future games. There’s no place for that.

But some of Jones’ comments taking shots at Pedon are an attack on his character and are ridiculous. Pretty obvious that Pedon tried to explain himself, but Jones continued with his narrative in the postgame comments anyway.

Robert Jones gives off Mayor Brandon Johnson vibes with those comments