Fire Muller...now!

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And the purpose of a fan site is? Also, you have the right to not respond and/or not reply. Passion over empathy. This currently, by far, is the longest running thread. It's unfortunate, but it's true.
Is that your goal, to run off as many of the posters that have been posting on here for years just so you can get your rocks off by showing how powerful your voice is on a fan forum. You’ve made your point here. Why don’t you use your voice at the office door of the AD’s office instead of irritating the posters on this forum with your bitching.
 

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Can we just put this thread (and all other threads that turn into “Fire Muller”) to sleep for now, and let the new AD & President make the decision as to how they will choose to move forward with the future of the Men’s Basketball Program? I think we all have zero questions as to how everyone in this thread now feel about the program and the current coach.
I agree. Let’s stick to topics like...

How slick our new uniforms look.
How stale the popcorn is at Redbird Arena.
How the “grays” won’t stand up and yell for mediocre basketball.
How great our teams were 40 years ago.
Etc.

You know, important/transformative-like topics that don’t challenge the status quo.
 

gobirds85

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Is that your goal, to run off as many of the posters that have been posting on here for years just so you can get your rocks off by showing how powerful your voice is on a fan forum. You’ve made your point here. Why don’t you use your voice at the office door of the AD’s office instead of irritating the posters on this forum with your bitching.

Someone piss in your cereal today? If my so called " powerful voice" has chased anyone off the site then they need to grow up and realize this is just a fan site. Don't take it so seriously. Relax.

And who said I haven't already spoken with both the president and new AD about our current dilemma? You are making an assumption and that assumption would be incorrect. But, please, by all means, carry on.
 

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Is that your goal, to run off as many of the posters that have been posting on here for years just so you can get your rocks off by showing how powerful your voice is on a fan forum. You’ve made your point here. Why don’t you use your voice at the office door of the AD’s office instead of irritating the posters on this forum with your bitching.
It’s a message board. I don’t get how someone can go into hiding or block someone over opinions on a message board. If you can’t handle this, then the real world is going to be a tough place.

I’d venture several posters on here have voiced their displeasure with the current situation. I have to the previous AD and current president.

Also, let’s not discount the good old boys club of boosters backing Dan behind the scenes. This topic and being vocal is a counter balance to those boosters backing Dan that might save him.
 

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It’s a message board. I don’t get how someone can go into hiding or block someone over opinions on a message board. If you can’t handle this, then the real world is going to be a tough place.

I’d venture several posters on here have voiced their displeasure with the current situation. I have to the previous AD and current president.

Also, let’s not discount the good old boys club of boosters backing Dan behind the scenes. This topic and being vocal is a counter balance to those boosters backing Dan that might save him.

RICO: Fire Muller!!!!
BOARD: Yeah we hear you.
RICO: Fire Muller!!!!
BOARD: Yeah where's the money?
RICO: You kool-aid dopes just don't get it
BOARD: Yeah we do. This ain't working, but where's the money for the buyout?
RICO: Larry Lyons and Larry Dietz suck and you guys are in love with Muller
BOARD; Yes the made a bad deal and a change needs to be made, but money is probably an issue
RICO: But we need to spend the money we have somewhere so we can Fire Muller!
BOARD: We know you want Muller fired because saw your last 500+ plus Fire Muller posts, we get it and you're annoying.
RICO: You guys are soft and will never make it in the real world.
BOARD: No you're just annoying and making this board as miserable as the Redbird locker room.
RICO: No, I'm a counterbalance to the good old boys who love Muller. If I post 500 more times, the new A.D. will see it my way!
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: You want a losing coach.
 

ricohill

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RICO: Fire Muller!!!!
BOARD: Yeah we hear you.
RICO: Fire Muller!!!!
BOARD: Yeah where's the money?
RICO: You kool-aid dopes just don't get it
BOARD: Yeah we do. This ain't working, but where's the money for the buyout?
RICO: Larry Lyons and Larry Dietz suck and you guys are in love with Muller
BOARD; Yes the made a bad deal and a change needs to be made, but money is probably an issue
RICO: But we need to spend the money we have somewhere so we can Fire Muller!
BOARD: We know you want Muller fired because saw your last 500+ plus Fire Muller posts, we get it and you're annoying.
RICO: You guys are soft and will never make it in the real world.
BOARD: No you're just annoying and making this board as miserable as the Redbird locker room.
RICO: No, I'm a counterbalance to the good old boys who love Muller. If I post 500 more times, the new A.D. will see it my way!
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: You want a losing coach.
See cali’s post.. this is what the message board was and would be.


I agree. Let’s stick to topics like...

How slick our new uniforms look.
How stale the popcorn is at Redbird Arena.
How the “grays” won’t stand up and yell for mediocre basketball.
How great our teams were 40 years ago.
Etc.

You know, important/transformative-like topics that don’t challenge the status quo.
 

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See cali’s post.. this is what the message board was and would be.


I agree. Let’s stick to topics like...

How slick our new uniforms look.
How stale the popcorn is at Redbird Arena.
How the “grays” won’t stand up and yell for mediocre basketball.
How great our teams were 40 years ago.
Etc.

You know, important/transformative-like topics that don’t challenge the status quo.
Don’t forget we are excited we finished in last but we have a 4th team all conference player!
 

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To be fair, it’s discussing Muller that is offensive. Not the .340 winning percentage the last 3 years.

RICO: Discussing Muller is offensive.
BOARD: Where's the money?
RICO: All you want to talk about is old uniforms and stale popcorn.
BOARD: A coaching change is needed, but where's the money?
RICO: You want to rehash 40 years ago.
BOARD: Yeah we can walk and chew gum at the same time. A change is needed but where's the money?
RICO: You guys don't want to talk about change.
BOARD: Yes a change needs to be made, we don't have money to make that change, but maybe someone does.
RICO: A real Redbird fan would find the money.
BOARD: Despite a horrible season and a coaching change that needs to be made, congrats to DJ
RICO: Don’t forget we are excited we finished in last but we have a 4th team all conference player!
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: All you care about is gray hairs who complain if fans stand.
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: If I stomp my feet hard enough, the new A.D. will Fire Muller!!!
 

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RICO: Fire Muller!!!!
BOARD: Yeah we hear you.
RICO: Fire Muller!!!!
BOARD: Yeah where's the money?
RICO: You kool-aid dopes just don't get it
BOARD: Yeah we do. This ain't working, but where's the money for the buyout?
RICO: Larry Lyons and Larry Dietz suck and you guys are in love with Muller
BOARD; Yes the made a bad deal and a change needs to be made, but money is probably an issue
RICO: But we need to spend the money we have somewhere so we can Fire Muller!
BOARD: We know you want Muller fired because saw your last 500+ plus Fire Muller posts, we get it and you're annoying.
RICO: You guys are soft and will never make it in the real world.
BOARD: No you're just annoying and making this board as miserable as the Redbird locker room.
RICO: No, I'm a counterbalance to the good old boys who love Muller. If I post 500 more times, the new A.D. will see it my way!
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: You want a losing coach.
One correction ~ kool-aid drinkers is jammin's go-to
 

ricohill

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RICO: Discussing Muller is offensive.
BOARD: Where's the money?
RICO: All you want to talk about is old uniforms and stale popcorn.
BOARD: A coaching change is needed, but where's the money?
RICO: You want to rehash 40 years ago.
BOARD: Yeah we can walk and chew gum at the same time. A change is needed but where's the money?
RICO: You guys don't want to talk about change.
BOARD: Yes a change needs to be made, we don't have money to make that change, but maybe someone does.
RICO: A real Redbird fan would find the money.
BOARD: Despite a horrible season and a coaching change that needs to be made, congrats to DJ
RICO: Don’t forget we are excited we finished in last but we have a 4th team all conference player!
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: All you care about is gray hairs who complain if fans stand.
BOARD: 🙄
RICO: If I stomp my feet hard enough, the new A.D. will Fire Muller!!!
Doing the same thing you are accusing me of is interesting.

If we took a poll and people were honest asking if Muller should stay or be fired. I bet it’s close to 50/50.
 

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Doing the same thing you are accusing me of is interesting.

If we took a poll and people were honest asking if Muller should stay or be fired. I bet it’s close to 50/50.
Here’s the thing, a lot of people here say something along the lines of: “yeah this is bad, I think change should be made but we don’t have the money so too bad”... however deep down they still have a muller obsession and I’m willing to bet if he wins a game or two in Arch Madness we will see comments from posters suggesting next year we will finish top 3 mvc and the year after NCAA time. These posters really don’t want Dan fired, they’re just too embarrassed to state it with how bad things have gotten for fear of ridicule
 

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Doing the same thing you are accusing me of is interesting.

If we took a poll and people were honest asking if Muller should stay or be fired. I bet it’s close to 50/50.
There is a difference between we think he will be fired vs should he be fired. Hence the ongoing debate
 

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Can we just put this thread (and all other threads that turn into “Fire Muller”) to sleep for now, and let the new AD & President make the decision as to how they will choose to move forward with the future of the Men’s Basketball Program? I think we all have zero questions as to how everyone in this thread now feel about the program and the current coach.
It’s a message board. Not the deciding factor if Muller is retained or not. And it shouldn’t be a message boards responsibility to figure out how to fire the guy or retain him. People will want Muller gone even though they don’t know if it’s possible to let him go. It’s a place for people to express their views on the program. If any other team was struggling like ISU, you would get the same responses on their message boards. So quit making this seem like it is out of the ordinary.
 

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Here’s the thing, a lot of people here say something along the lines of: “yeah this is bad, I think change should be made but we don’t have the money so too bad”... however deep down they still have a muller obsession and I’m willing to bet if he wins a game or two in Arch Madness we will see comments from posters suggesting next year we will finish top 3 mvc and the year after NCAA time. These posters really don’t want Dan fired, they’re just too embarrassed to state it with how bad things have gotten for fear of ridicule
If they think Dan is going to the NCAA tournament before his contract is up they are spending a lot of time at the dispensary!
 

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Can we just put this thread (and all other threads that turn into “Fire Muller”) to sleep for now, and let the new AD & President make the decision as to how they will choose to move forward with the future of the Men’s Basketball Program? I think we all have zero questions as to how everyone in this thread now feel about the program and the current coach.
So keep scrolling.
 

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I don't know that we have enough basketball boosters to generate the money to fire Muller...thanks to Muller's managing of the program. I don't really think it's up to the fans to find the money. Were we surveyed on whether Muller should get a new seven-year deal? If you hire the right coach after Muller...you won't have to worry about the booster's money. If Loyola can win...why can't we?

Have we ever had boosters with deep enough pockets that were willing to pay?

We need to get lucky now. Loyola got lucky, but now has some sort of brand which we lack.
 

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Have we ever had boosters with deep enough pockets that were willing to pay?

We need to get lucky now. Loyola got lucky, but now has some sort of brand which we lack.
I agree! However, you aren’t getting deep pockets unless you can win. What does Loyola have that we don’t? Krutwig! It seems every team in the Valley has gotten lucky in the last 20 years but us! Sometimes you create your own “luck”!
 
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