FIRE BROCK SPACK

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fourthandshort

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Let me get this correct - TBS 20's math tells him 6 wins is the same as 0 wins and 5 losses is the same as 11 losses? Sounds like the type of math used by (fill in the blank).
is this a trick question ?

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or maybe this guy ?

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We were without a solid kicker for most of the year until Wagner came back - our punter was marginal - our injuries hurt (but everyone has) - however our NIL is laughable right now and unfortunately we're the minor leagues for FBS to poach from
Lol we're down to kickers as excuses?
 

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To Coach's much deserved credit...his first 7 seasons he went 56-29 overall, 37-19 in conf play, semi's&finals. No doubt about it, best run we've had. (Todd Berry was getting us on a roll, too) The guy's results, for what we have to offer, were VERY good.

My question for you better-versed 'ballers. Why the difference this latest 7 years??
Nagy was 12-4 in his first season.
 
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Too bad we were the only team affected.
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Look at the players that were coming back and either transfered or opted out including our starting QB

I also think ISU was at a disadvantage versus some teams in the spring with indoor facilities and the weather. Sure others had to endure that too, but some had a clear advantage over ISU.

Lastly i believe there was fallout when we went 1 - 4 and Spack decided to end the season abruptly. Look at the players on the same list that transferred after that season

All of FCS had to deal with COVID but we were hit especially hard and it was a MAJOR set back to the program .... that's my opinion at least.
 

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Post in thread 'Fire Brock Spack' Fire Brock Spack

Look at the players that were coming back and either transfered or opted out including our starting QB

I also think ISU was at a disadvantage versus some teams in the spring with indoor facilities and the weather. Sure others had to endure that too, but some had a clear advantage over ISU.

Lastly i believe there was fallout when we went 1 - 4 and Spack decided to end the season abruptly. Look at the players on the same list that transferred after that season

All of FCS had to deal with COVID but we were hit especially hard and it was a MAJOR set back to the program .... that's my opinion at least.
Your opinion, and I respect that. The issue I have with statements like that is that’s kinda what you’d expect a program with low expectations to say.
 

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It kind of surprised me - and will surely surprise the Spack "haters" on the board - to see Spack's name on a list, the long list, of possible replacements for former Purdue HC Jeff Brohm, who has moved on to Louisville. Also mentioned was former Bison HC Craig Bohl. Not that it was a ringing endorsement of Spack's chances.

It feels like the time has passed on looping Spack in on this. He was passed over when Purdue hired Danny Hope to succeed Joe Tiller. Spack, a former Purdue linebacker and defensive coordinator during its glory days from 1997-2008, became head coach at Illinois State and has done an admirable job in 14 seasons there, winning a pair of Missouri Valley Football Conference titles and a trip to the FCS national championship game. This would be a more likely candidate under former athletic director Morgan Burke, who preferred to hire head coaches with Purdue ties.

 

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He could be Alabamas next coach and I'd laugh at Alabama first then say he still needs to go.
 

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It kind of surprised me - and will surely surprise the Spack "haters" on the board - to see Spack's name on a list, the long list, of possible replacements for former Purdue HC Jeff Brohm, who has moved on to Louisville. Also mentioned was former Bison HC Craig Bohl. Not that it was a ringing endorsement of Spack's chances.



He would have a shot at the DC position...and he'd make a lot more money than here.
 

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Didn’t Purdue already pass over him once, when they hired Brohm?
Well, at least three times - for Danny Hope (when Spack was DC) to replace Tiller, for Hope's replacement Darrell Hazell (fired with a 9-33 record), and then when they hire Brohm. That's why I was surprised his name popped up. Altho the writer did acknowledge "time has passed" probably for Spack. Maybe there's some "regret" out there, at least over the first time. Hope got fired after 4 years and 22-27 record. Spack was 28-18 in those 4 years here.
 

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It kind of surprised me - and will surely surprise the Spack "haters" on the board - to see Spack's name on a list, the long list, of possible replacements for former Purdue HC Jeff Brohm, who has moved on to Louisville. Also mentioned was former Bison HC Craig Bohl. Not that it was a ringing endorsement of Spack's chances.



I don't think Spack is up to the HC job in Big 10 or any FBS level .. maybe a G5 in lower end conference. I just don't see it with his offensive resume, outside of his run game results.

But certainly could again do the DC job very well. In fact, I think being at ISU in the MVFC has made him an even better DC over the years .. the experience of consistently reloading and rebuilding strong defenses has been very impressive considering the limitations at FCS level. With better athletes, he would do just as well at next level. Can't say that on offense in pass game.
 

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According to the administration, he had coach had not exercised enough equity in years decisions for receivers so you go woke you go broke.
 

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According to the administration, he had coach had not exercised enough equity in years decisions for receivers so you go woke you go broke.
According to the administration..........as well as everyone with a functioning brain stem..........your grammar needs a lot of work (proofread before post might be a good policy) and unverifiable, fictitious references to sources such as "the administration" are weak.
 

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I don't think Spack is up to the HC job in Big 10 or any FBS level .. maybe a G5 in lower end conference. I just don't see it with his offensive resume, outside of his run game results.

But certainly could again do the DC job very well. In fact, I think being at ISU in the MVFC has made him an even better DC over the years .. the experience of consistently reloading and rebuilding strong defenses has been very impressive considering the limitations at FCS level. With better athletes, he would do just as well at next level. Can't say that on offense in pass game.
Coach Spack's best window for a move to FBS was probably after the National Championship appearance. I don't see any Power 5 school looking to hire him now. I don't think it matters anyway, I don't think he wants to leave ISU. He has been in that job a long time and I think he is happy as the Redbird's Head Coach.
 

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Post in thread 'Fire Brock Spack' Fire Brock Spack

Look at the players that were coming back and either transfered or opted out including our starting QB

I also think ISU was at a disadvantage versus some teams in the spring with indoor facilities and the weather. Sure others had to endure that too, but some had a clear advantage over ISU.

Lastly i believe there was fallout when we went 1 - 4 and Spack decided to end the season abruptly. Look at the players on the same list that transferred after that season

All of FCS had to deal with COVID but we were hit especially hard and it was a MAJOR set back to the program .... that's my opinion at least.
This makes a lot of sense. Spack was against playing in spring 2021 and was apparently talked into it. We were not only at a disadvantage compared to most MVFC teams given facilities. But it just didn't make a lot of sense given we would have to bounce right back for fall season.

But then in our opener against MoST, the frickin league gave Petrino a pass on playing. It made no sense that the league gave in to Petrino. Their weather had been much better than ours. They even had access to a real indoor facility with a football surface to prepare for season - we did not have that and our weather was notably worse. Now picture Spack thinking, I let you talk me into agreeing to play, and you let Petrino out of playing that opener ??

We were already hurt by pandemic P5 transfers plus graduation more than most, with no real indoor facility to prepare properly. Then some injuries started piling up. And Spack is thinking I didn't even want to play this spring, and you let Petrino off the hook in our opener .. they should have been better prepared for the opener than us. I'm guessing MoST had some injuries or wasn't ready .. and Patty V let him off the hook. And now Spack is thinking were not only losing games, but Im hurting my program's chances for the real season comin in Fall 2021 with more injuries.

So Spack looked bad for canceling the spring season. Though I couldn't really blame him for canceling the asterisk spring season.

But youre right ... that the entire thing hurt our program more than most. I said before, I give Spack a mulligan for the entire 2021 (spring and fall) ... that was all just a perfect storm hit to our program.
 
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