ricohill said:ricohill said:Redbirdfan06 said:Why should Hein be punished for giving it his all and playing the minutes he is asked? I don’t think removing Hein’s scholarship fixes the issues with this team. Why not point the finger at the coaching staff who plays Hein all those minutes and exposes him at times? We replace Heins scholarship with another hustler and we then start complaining about all the minutes that kid is receiving. This team never going to be full of 12 blue chippers, so you need the Matt heins towards the bottom of the roster. It’s the coaches job to put the kids in the situations to make the team most sucessful.
Maybe it's because he's taking a valuable scholarship and is the worst offensive player in the league (Tinsley and Madison near the bottom as well). Not to mention Hein has the 2nd worst TO ratio in the league.
http://www.barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&sIndex=28&minusage=0&minGP=0&minORtg=0&mineFG=0&minTS=0&minOR=0&minDR=0&minAst=0&minTO=100&minBlk=0&minStl=0&min2P=0&min3P=0&minFT=0&minftr=0&minht=0&maxht=100&minftm=0&minfta=0&minthreepm=0&minthreepa=0&mintwopm=0&mintwopa=0&sortToggle=0&yvalue=All&cvalue=MVC&tvalue=All&year=2018&minmin=40&c=0&top=351&kw=&start=20171101&end=20180501&ppg=-10
and he is ranked 2130 out of 2139 players in the country. When there are only 9 players worse than you in the country and you are starting....it's a problem.
ChiRedbirdfan said:Someone should be fired at ISU for the terms of Dan's deal. I am all for giving Dan a multi-year contract but for *%&$#* sakes get something for ISU in return.
isuquinndog said:I'd ask the same of you. I work for a Fortune 1000 company and "sucking" isn't enough to fire someone, without gross misconduct. There are Improvement Plans, mentoring, reassignment of duties to do something else. Firing is never the first option for "you aren't doing the job".ricohill said:I've always wondered on here what jobs people work? I don't know many jobs out there that allow you to be terrible and don't fire you.
Also, how do I get a job that has such low expectations that I can get a free ride?
ChiRedbirdfan said:isuquinndog said:I'd ask the same of you. I work for a Fortune 1000 company and "sucking" isn't enough to fire someone, without gross misconduct. There are Improvement Plans, mentoring, reassignment of duties to do something else. Firing is never the first option for "you aren't doing the job".ricohill said:I've always wondered on here what jobs people work? I don't know many jobs out there that allow you to be terrible and don't fire you.
Also, how do I get a job that has such low expectations that I can get a free ride?
Quinn agree with most of your points but I would hope that Muller has been mentoring all players, and in someways already had Hein (and some others including Milik) on an improvement plan. Do not agree one has to be reassigned before they are fired. In the end the last point does not matter as we can not assign a men's bball player to the Women's bball team or to the wrestling team .
Bird Friend said:ChiRedbirdfan said:isuquinndog said:I'd ask the same of you. I work for a Fortune 1000 company and "sucking" isn't enough to fire someone, without gross misconduct. There are Improvement Plans, mentoring, reassignment of duties to do something else. Firing is never the first option for "you aren't doing the job".
Quinn agree with most of your points but I would hope that Muller has been mentoring all players, and in someways already had Hein (and some others including Milik) on an improvement plan. Do not agree one has to be reassigned before they are fired. In the end the last point does not matter as we can not assign a men's bball player to the Women's bball team or to the wrestling team .
You can't tell me you haven't seen a marked improvement in Hein's game.
Birdfriend72 said:Bird Friend said:ChiRedbirdfan said:Quinn agree with most of your points but I would hope that Muller has been mentoring all players, and in someways already had Hein (and some others including Milik) on an improvement plan. Do not agree one has to be reassigned before they are fired. In the end the last point does not matter as we can not assign a men's bball player to the Women's bball team or to the wrestling team .
You can't tell me you haven't seen a marked improvement in Hein's game.
That’s because he couldn’t get any worse! He was a 0 last year, now a 2. But that doesn’t mean that he belongs on a division 1 court.
Bird Friend said:Birdfriend72 said:Bird Friend said:You can't tell me you haven't seen a marked improvement in Hein's game.
That’s because he couldn’t get any worse! He was a 0 last year, now a 2. But that doesn’t mean that he belongs on a division 1 court.
Humor is lost on you.
Bird Friend said:Wow. We've gone from "Fire Dan! Fire Dan!" to "Extend him! Extend him!" to "We didn't give him enough $$!" to "Do whatever it takes to keep Dan!" to "Fire Dan! Fire Dan!" since just before the beginning of last season.
This fanbase needs some meds for manic-depression.
ISU FAN 1 said:It’s a sad statement about the Pantagraph, when the Vidette provides more fair and balanced coverage of the Redbirds. IMO, the Pantagraph is the ISU athletic department lapdog. The only entity that gets even more kid glove treatment from the Pantagraph is State Farm.
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbirds-puzzled-by-the-panthers-fall-below-on-the-season/article_d7508d9e-016b-11e8-a6ec-670167646406.html
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbird-report-isu-hoops-looks-to-bounce-back-after-two/article_5d8ee66c-0225-11e8-b3ae-2b77e018068b.html
ISU FAN 1 said:It’s a sad statement about the Pantagraph, when the Vidette provides more fair and balanced coverage of the Redbirds. IMO, the Pantagraph is the ISU athletic department lapdog. The only entity that gets even more kid glove treatment from the Pantagraph is State Farm.
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbirds-puzzled-by-the-panthers-fall-below-on-the-season/article_d7508d9e-016b-11e8-a6ec-670167646406.html
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbird-report-isu-hoops-looks-to-bounce-back-after-two/article_5d8ee66c-0225-11e8-b3ae-2b77e018068b.html
SgtHulka said:ISU FAN 1 said:It’s a sad statement about the Pantagraph, when the Vidette provides more fair and balanced coverage of the Redbirds. IMO, the Pantagraph is the ISU athletic department lapdog. The only entity that gets even more kid glove treatment from the Pantagraph is State Farm.
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbirds-puzzled-by-the-panthers-fall-below-on-the-season/article_d7508d9e-016b-11e8-a6ec-670167646406.html
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbird-report-isu-hoops-looks-to-bounce-back-after-two/article_5d8ee66c-0225-11e8-b3ae-2b77e018068b.html
Good reporting by them in the article. Failing to see your fair and balanced connection between them and Panty though based on it. Both articles a pretty much similar.
http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/basketball/men/struggling-isu-tortured-by--point-uni-burst/article_450a23f5-e4e5-54f5-95e6-18326ea6aee2.html
Humdinger said:ISU FAN 1 said:It’s a sad statement about the Pantagraph, when the Vidette provides more fair and balanced coverage of the Redbirds. IMO, the Pantagraph is the ISU athletic department lapdog. The only entity that gets even more kid glove treatment from the Pantagraph is State Farm.
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbirds-puzzled-by-the-panthers-fall-below-on-the-season/article_d7508d9e-016b-11e8-a6ec-670167646406.html
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbird-report-isu-hoops-looks-to-bounce-back-after-two/article_5d8ee66c-0225-11e8-b3ae-2b77e018068b.html
Except for this statement: "The Panthers shot a blistering 47-percent from the field."
Blistering? Oops. Or maybe he features sarcasm in his game write up.
ISU FAN 1 said:Humdinger said:ISU FAN 1 said:It’s a sad statement about the Pantagraph, when the Vidette provides more fair and balanced coverage of the Redbirds. IMO, the Pantagraph is the ISU athletic department lapdog. The only entity that gets even more kid glove treatment from the Pantagraph is State Farm.
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbirds-puzzled-by-the-panthers-fall-below-on-the-season/article_d7508d9e-016b-11e8-a6ec-670167646406.html
http://www.videtteonline.com/sports/redbird-report-isu-hoops-looks-to-bounce-back-after-two/article_5d8ee66c-0225-11e8-b3ae-2b77e018068b.html
Except for this statement: "The Panthers shot a blistering 47-percent from the field."
Blistering? Oops. Or maybe he features sarcasm in his game write up.
Effective FG% (factoring in made 3s) was 59%. Pretty good. The 25-0 seemed blistering.