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SgtHulka said:
I'm just hoping we hire someone off the board. So much insight, so little conversion to palpable income to show for it. Idiots abound in the coaching world, it's time to look to the real source of basketball intelligence.

I would like to be the Point Guard coach, not the head coach.
 

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If we can't get Yak, I would suggest Dan Ryan, current Director of Basketball operations at Belmont. Along with Yak he was one of the key pieces of the coaching and managers staff in 2017. They were the primary contributors to the success of our 2017 season. DM has been exposed since their departure as evidenced by Michigan's run to the Championship game and how Dan Ryan was able to quickly help Coach Byrd develop three Belmont freshman.

After speaking to parties close to both Yak and Ryan, we have come to find out that they literally learned nothing from DM and confirmed what many have known all along ... Dan is riding the coattails of others.

1. Ward was the only person to be able to recruit and thus we now have to settle on players like Matt Hein
2. Yak as student manager actually coached Dan to be defensive player of the year during his playing days. Bringing him back to ISU reinforced those Stallings tactics which Dan continued to ignore while employed by Stallings at Vanderbilt. Yak single-handedly propelled us to a defensive juggernaut. Despite being a named a Bone Scholar, Dan unfortunately once again did not pay attention during practice and has clearly forgotten points of emphasis and drills.
3. Dan Ryan, former juco and ISU manager clearly was the catalyst to the late development (their last 2 years at ISU) of Hawkins, MM, Tony and PL. Now he has taken his 5 step plan to Belmont and with some minor modifications from Coach Byrd, they have created an accelerated player development program. It may be too late though because coach K from Duke has rolled out his version which obviously has propelled his current 3 freshman of Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish, and RJ Barrett to unprecedented levels like hammering a defenseless Kentucky team from the lowly SEC by 34.
4. Dana Ford refused to speak to us citing a conflict of interest since he coaches in the MVC. However, his current Bears are 3 - 0 which projects to a perfect season last accomplished by Indiana and Bobby Knight. This is more anecdotal evidence of DM riding the success of others.

Since none of the these coaches are currently available, I will wait it out and suffer with Dan M until they become available.
 

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Redbird222 said:
If we can't get Yak, I would suggest Dan Ryan, current Director of Basketball operations at Belmont. Along with Yak he was one of the key pieces of the coaching and managers staff in 2017. They were the primary contributors to the success of our 2017 season. DM has been exposed since their departure as evidenced by Michigan's run to the Championship game and how Dan Ryan was able to quickly help Coach Byrd develop three Belmont freshman.

After speaking to parties close to both Yak and Ryan, we have come to find out that they literally learned nothing from DM and confirmed what many have known all along ... Dan is riding the coattails of others.

1. Ward was the only person to be able to recruit and thus we now have to settle on players like Matt Hein
2. Yak as student manager actually coached Dan to be defensive player of the year during his playing days. Bringing him back to ISU reinforced those Stallings tactics which Dan continued to ignore while employed by Stallings at Vanderbilt. Yak single-handedly propelled us to a defensive juggernaut. Despite being a named a Bone Scholar, Dan unfortunately once again did not pay attention during practice and has clearly forgotten points of emphasis and drills.
3. Dan Ryan, former juco and ISU manager clearly was the catalyst to the late development (their last 2 years at ISU) of Hawkins, MM, Tony and PL. Now he has taken his 5 step plan to Belmont and with some minor modifications from Coach Byrd, they have created an accelerated player development program. It may be too late though because coach K from Duke has rolled out his version which obviously has propelled his current 3 freshman of Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish, and RJ Barrett to unprecedented levels like hammering a defenseless Kentucky team from the lowly SEC by 34.
4. Dana Ford refused to speak to us citing a conflict of interest since he coaches in the MVC. However, his current Bears are 3 - 0 which projects to a perfect season last accomplished by Indiana and Bobby Knight. This is more anecdotal evidence of DM riding the success of others.

Since none of the these coaches are currently available, I will wait it out and suffer with Dan M until they become available.
So...

#1 - ISU Guy
#2 - ISU Guy
#3 - ISU Guy

Objective :roll:
 

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Redbird222 said:
If we can't get Yak, I would suggest Dan Ryan, current Director of Basketball operations at Belmont. Along with Yak he was one of the key pieces of the coaching and managers staff in 2017. They were the primary contributors to the success of our 2017 season. DM has been exposed since their departure as evidenced by Michigan's run to the Championship game and how Dan Ryan was able to quickly help Coach Byrd develop three Belmont freshman.

After speaking to parties close to both Yak and Ryan, we have come to find out that they literally learned nothing from DM and confirmed what many have known all along ... Dan is riding the coattails of others.

1. Ward was the only person to be able to recruit and thus we now have to settle on players like Matt Hein
2. Yak as student manager actually coached Dan to be defensive player of the year during his playing days. Bringing him back to ISU reinforced those Stallings tactics which Dan continued to ignore while employed by Stallings at Vanderbilt. Yak single-handedly propelled us to a defensive juggernaut. Despite being a named a Bone Scholar, Dan unfortunately once again did not pay attention during practice and has clearly forgotten points of emphasis and drills.
3. Dan Ryan, former juco and ISU manager clearly was the catalyst to the late development (their last 2 years at ISU) of Hawkins, MM, Tony and PL. Now he has taken his 5 step plan to Belmont and with some minor modifications from Coach Byrd, they have created an accelerated player development program. It may be too late though because coach K from Duke has rolled out his version which obviously has propelled his current 3 freshman of Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish, and RJ Barrett to unprecedented levels like hammering a defenseless Kentucky team from the lowly SEC by 34.
4. Dana Ford refused to speak to us citing a conflict of interest since he coaches in the MVC. However, his current Bears are 3 - 0 which projects to a perfect season last accomplished by Indiana and Bobby Knight. This is more anecdotal evidence of DM riding the success of others.

Since none of the these coaches are currently available, I will wait it out and suffer with Dan M until they become available.

sounds like a bunch of BS to me
 

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Redbird222 said:
If we can't get Yak, I would suggest Dan Ryan, current Director of Basketball operations at Belmont. Along with Yak he was one of the key pieces of the coaching and managers staff in 2017. They were the primary contributors to the success of our 2017 season. DM has been exposed since their departure as evidenced by Michigan's run to the Championship game and how Dan Ryan was able to quickly help Coach Byrd develop three Belmont freshman.

After speaking to parties close to both Yak and Ryan, we have come to find out that they literally learned nothing from DM and confirmed what many have known all along ... Dan is riding the coattails of others.

1. Ward was the only person to be able to recruit and thus we now have to settle on players like Matt Hein
2. Yak as student manager actually coached Dan to be defensive player of the year during his playing days. Bringing him back to ISU reinforced those Stallings tactics which Dan continued to ignore while employed by Stallings at Vanderbilt. Yak single-handedly propelled us to a defensive juggernaut. Despite being a named a Bone Scholar, Dan unfortunately once again did not pay attention during practice and has clearly forgotten points of emphasis and drills.
3. Dan Ryan, former juco and ISU manager clearly was the catalyst to the late development (their last 2 years at ISU) of Hawkins, MM, Tony and PL. Now he has taken his 5 step plan to Belmont and with some minor modifications from Coach Byrd, they have created an accelerated player development program. It may be too late though because coach K from Duke has rolled out his version which obviously has propelled his current 3 freshman of Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish, and RJ Barrett to unprecedented levels like hammering a defenseless Kentucky team from the lowly SEC by 34.
4. Dana Ford refused to speak to us citing a conflict of interest since he coaches in the MVC. However, his current Bears are 3 - 0 which projects to a perfect season last accomplished by Indiana and Bobby Knight. This is more anecdotal evidence of DM riding the success of others.

Since none of the these coaches are currently available, I will wait it out and suffer with Dan M until they become available.

I hope this is sarcastic, if it's not it is really flawed.

1. I do believe most of our early recruiting was done by Torrey and Dana.

2. That's where the rest of this goes off the rails for me. Those on the Yak bandwagon have to realize that he had limited recruiting responsibilities when he was here until the classes of Hein, Gassman, etc. Also, outside of the senior year for Paris and Tony we never had that spectacular of defenses (see Ken Pom). I attribute that more to those two than anything else.

3. Dan Ryan graduated from ISU in 2017, was a manager, and now a director of basketball operations. He had nothing to do with the development of players. It is against NCAA rules for him to currently do any on court work players at Belmont.

4. This makes no sense. Who did Dana Ford refuse to speak to? You? ISU?

And for any of this to happen someone would have to hire Muller (not going to happen unless we go to the NCAA Tournament) or we pony up the $3.6 million needed to buy him out.
 

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ricohill said:
Redbird222 said:
If we can't get Yak, I would suggest Dan Ryan, current Director of Basketball operations at Belmont. Along with Yak he was one of the key pieces of the coaching and managers staff in 2017. They were the primary contributors to the success of our 2017 season. DM has been exposed since their departure as evidenced by Michigan's run to the Championship game and how Dan Ryan was able to quickly help Coach Byrd develop three Belmont freshman.

After speaking to parties close to both Yak and Ryan, we have come to find out that they literally learned nothing from DM and confirmed what many have known all along ... Dan is riding the coattails of others.

1. Ward was the only person to be able to recruit and thus we now have to settle on players like Matt Hein
2. Yak as student manager actually coached Dan to be defensive player of the year during his playing days. Bringing him back to ISU reinforced those Stallings tactics which Dan continued to ignore while employed by Stallings at Vanderbilt. Yak single-handedly propelled us to a defensive juggernaut. Despite being a named a Bone Scholar, Dan unfortunately once again did not pay attention during practice and has clearly forgotten points of emphasis and drills.
3. Dan Ryan, former juco and ISU manager clearly was the catalyst to the late development (their last 2 years at ISU) of Hawkins, MM, Tony and PL. Now he has taken his 5 step plan to Belmont and with some minor modifications from Coach Byrd, they have created an accelerated player development program. It may be too late though because coach K from Duke has rolled out his version which obviously has propelled his current 3 freshman of Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish, and RJ Barrett to unprecedented levels like hammering a defenseless Kentucky team from the lowly SEC by 34.
4. Dana Ford refused to speak to us citing a conflict of interest since he coaches in the MVC. However, his current Bears are 3 - 0 which projects to a perfect season last accomplished by Indiana and Bobby Knight. This is more anecdotal evidence of DM riding the success of others.

Since none of the these coaches are currently available, I will wait it out and suffer with Dan M until they become available.

I hope this is sarcastic, if it's not it is really flawed.

1. I do believe most of our early recruiting was done by Torrey and Dana.

2. That's where the rest of this goes off the rails for me. Those on the Yak bandwagon have to realize that he had limited recruiting responsibilities when he was here until the classes of Hein, Gassman, etc. Also, outside of the senior year for Paris and Tony we never had that spectacular of defenses (see Ken Pom). I attribute that more to those two than anything else.

3. Dan Ryan graduated from ISU in 2017, was a manager, and now a director of basketball operations. He had nothing to do with the development of players. It is against NCAA rules for him to currently do any on court work players at Belmont.

4. This makes no sense. Who did Dana Ford refuse to speak to? You? ISU?

And for any of this to happen someone would have to hire Muller (not going to happen unless we go to the NCAA Tournament) or we pony up the $3.6 million needed to buy him out.
Yes to spell it out ... full of sarcasm and BS
 

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Redbird222 said:
ricohill said:
Redbird222 said:
If we can't get Yak, I would suggest Dan Ryan, current Director of Basketball operations at Belmont. Along with Yak he was one of the key pieces of the coaching and managers staff in 2017. They were the primary contributors to the success of our 2017 season. DM has been exposed since their departure as evidenced by Michigan's run to the Championship game and how Dan Ryan was able to quickly help Coach Byrd develop three Belmont freshman.

After speaking to parties close to both Yak and Ryan, we have come to find out that they literally learned nothing from DM and confirmed what many have known all along ... Dan is riding the coattails of others.

1. Ward was the only person to be able to recruit and thus we now have to settle on players like Matt Hein
2. Yak as student manager actually coached Dan to be defensive player of the year during his playing days. Bringing him back to ISU reinforced those Stallings tactics which Dan continued to ignore while employed by Stallings at Vanderbilt. Yak single-handedly propelled us to a defensive juggernaut. Despite being a named a Bone Scholar, Dan unfortunately once again did not pay attention during practice and has clearly forgotten points of emphasis and drills.
3. Dan Ryan, former juco and ISU manager clearly was the catalyst to the late development (their last 2 years at ISU) of Hawkins, MM, Tony and PL. Now he has taken his 5 step plan to Belmont and with some minor modifications from Coach Byrd, they have created an accelerated player development program. It may be too late though because coach K from Duke has rolled out his version which obviously has propelled his current 3 freshman of Zion Williamson, Cam Reddish, and RJ Barrett to unprecedented levels like hammering a defenseless Kentucky team from the lowly SEC by 34.
4. Dana Ford refused to speak to us citing a conflict of interest since he coaches in the MVC. However, his current Bears are 3 - 0 which projects to a perfect season last accomplished by Indiana and Bobby Knight. This is more anecdotal evidence of DM riding the success of others.

Since none of the these coaches are currently available, I will wait it out and suffer with Dan M until they become available.

I hope this is sarcastic, if it's not it is really flawed.

1. I do believe most of our early recruiting was done by Torrey and Dana.

2. That's where the rest of this goes off the rails for me. Those on the Yak bandwagon have to realize that he had limited recruiting responsibilities when he was here until the classes of Hein, Gassman, etc. Also, outside of the senior year for Paris and Tony we never had that spectacular of defenses (see Ken Pom). I attribute that more to those two than anything else.

3. Dan Ryan graduated from ISU in 2017, was a manager, and now a director of basketball operations. He had nothing to do with the development of players. It is against NCAA rules for him to currently do any on court work players at Belmont.

4. This makes no sense. Who did Dana Ford refuse to speak to? You? ISU?

And for any of this to happen someone would have to hire Muller (not going to happen unless we go to the NCAA Tournament) or we pony up the $3.6 million needed to buy him out.
Yes to spell it out ... full of sarcasm and BS

Hard to tell. There are some out here that believe this.
 

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Jsnhbe1Birds said:
Dan has lost this program. Time to move on. Im sure I'll make people made with this thread but, oh well. You'll live and so will I. Probably will be deleted just because the people here seem to be afraid of upsetting the order...even though our program from team to AD office is a complete joke. Maybe seeing negative things about themselves (if by chance they come here which I doubt) would do them some good. Might as well make one for next AD, too.

Dana Ford
Luke Yaklich
Chris Jans
Other -- explain below

Bring on the name calling.

I choose Yaklich personally but I'd be okay with any of the choices listed.

This is hilarious. You want Dan gone and you suggest two of his recent assistants to replace him. Brilliant.
 

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MPE773 said:
Jsnhbe1Birds said:
Dan has lost this program. Time to move on. Im sure I'll make people made with this thread but, oh well. You'll live and so will I. Probably will be deleted just because the people here seem to be afraid of upsetting the order...even though our program from team to AD office is a complete joke. Maybe seeing negative things about themselves (if by chance they come here which I doubt) would do them some good. Might as well make one for next AD, too.

Dana Ford
Luke Yaklich
Chris Jans
Other -- explain below

Bring on the name calling.

I choose Yaklich personally but I'd be okay with any of the choices listed.

This is hilarious. You want Dan gone and you suggest two of his recent assistants to replace him. Brilliant.


Manking two good hires does not a great coach make. Only one aspect. Lacking in about everything else except criminal convictions.
 

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CaliRdBrd said:
Brick said:
Yup lose a road game against a good team and it’s time to fire Dan! Stupid!

It remains to be seen just how good Belmont is; they could lose 15 games. Its too early to tell if they're that good, or we're simply overrated (again). The fact that they're loaded with freshmen and haven't even played an exhibition games does not make us look very good.

As for Muller...How about 6 years and not a sniff of the NCAA? You're OK with that?

Something is wrong with this program...fingers will be pointed, as they should. Unless you're OK with being a perennial bridesmaid (20 plus years now, and counting)

All those MVC title game appearances and the ISU NIT quadrant #1 seed (first four out of NCAA tourney) would qualify as a “sniff” IMO.
 

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Jsnhbe1Birds said:
Are you content to settle for the NIT every other year if lucky and that's the pinnacle of the program?

ISU is a mid major program. If you want more from your basketball team, find a blue blood Power 5 team to root for. You’ll be much happier.
 

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Quinn, I’m gettin real close to telling this guy to blow me. Just so you can be ready on the lock trigger.
 

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And holy hell, remember when ISUF1 was the guy who was hyperbolic about all things bad and now he’s like “ let’s calm down there, champ”.

What a strange world this is.
 

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As a reminder, Dan Muller might be the most underpaid coach in the country and is doing this program an absolute favor every time he shows up to work. Voluntary moving on from HCDM sets this program back to pre-Moser level. You’ll never see a T100 JC or 3 star HS player come to Normal again while Muller is coaching in the PAC 12 or Big East.
 

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ISU FAN 1 said:
Jsnhbe1Birds said:
Are you content to settle for the NIT every other year if lucky and that's the pinnacle of the program?

ISU is a mid major program. If you want more from your basketball team, find a blue blood Power 5 team to root for. You’ll be much happier.

Other mid majors can do it. Why not us? Being content with the state of this program is accepting mediocrity. I just can't do it. I won't do it.
 

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Redbirdwarrior said:
Quinn, I’m gettin real close to telling this guy to blow me. Just so you can be ready on the lock trigger.

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Redbirdwarrior said:
As a reminder, Dan Muller might be the most underpaid coach in the country and is doing this program an absolute favor every time he shows up to work. Voluntary moving on from HCDM sets this program back to pre-Moser level. You’ll never see a T100 JC or 3 star HS player come to Normal again while Muller is coaching in the PAC 12 or Big East.

This I disagree with. He's making $600,000 per year. He's not at all underpaid.
 

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Alright we as a fanbase need to figure this out. We need to all start irrationally freaking out over each game or we are just accepting mediocrity. This program's success is 100% based on how unrealistic our expectations are.

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