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Redbird Alum 2004 said:
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Never said super star. Funny how you can't celebrate a good win but you call for his head after every loss. He was coach of the year just a couple years ago fwiw.
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Correct. He was coach of the year a few years ago. Can you tell me what that has got us? I care about the future and the direction of the program. One win, at home, against the mighty Indiana St isn’t going to change my mind. Ole Miss, SDSU, Georgia, Badley, UIC, etc. etc. etc.
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So you say fire the coach of the year from two years ago. Lose a bunch of players and recruits and start fresh with an unknown coach. Dan has had us playing in Sunday most years. He will break through. Sorry not onboard with your hate.
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Yep, losing on Sunday has gotten us what? Break through?? How many years are you going to give him? The one thing I hate is mediocrity and if today’s win thrills you, then mediocrity is your favorite color.

This year the valley sucks. If we can’t win in this watered down version then it won’t happen with him as HC.
 
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After the Bradley game, my guess is the Trees game plan was to get Phil in foul trouble and stop Milik from scoring.

A nice defensive move by our coaching staff was to put Milik (instead of Fayne) on their big guy. I think Milik liked the challenge and Phil was never in foul trouble. A nice move offensively is how we exploited that by getting the ball to Phil.

Milik seemed to do more encouraging with his teammates than I have seen before. He was slapping five and smiling with the guys off the bench. Hein after a nice assist and Tinsley after a made basket or block. I forget.
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To the bolded part above, I saw Yarbs do something I've never seen him do before, and that was lead. He was encouraging guys who made mistakes, pulling them together during the on court huddles, getting guys to focus again. At one point after a foul in the second half, Phil was off to the side, and said something, and Yarbs grabbed him, told to get over here and get it together. He didn't look to attack that often in this game, but I thought he shaped the game in other ways, with defense/leadership/hustle. Huge kudos to him.

Couple of other thoughts:

--Our offense looks really effective when we play from the inside-out. Feed Phil, Yarbs, Rey on the block, drive the ball and we are solid. Fall back to just shooting jumpers and we'll likely lose 8-10 times.

--Really nice to see Key feel more comfortable shooting the ball and hit shots. If he can be consistent (a struggle I know for this team) we could be dangerous the rest of the way in the Valley.

--Copeland is forcing everything like he did at the beginning of the year. He needs to get back to playing more in control on both ends of the floor, and get out of his head again.

--Overall very good defense and hustle. Guys were flying to the ball 99% of the game. And when they weren't Muller was on them immediately. This was a promising turnaround from the Bradley game.

--Chas coming up holding his knee in the second half scared the crap out of me, and I think Muller too as he immediately yelled to see if Chas was ok. Chas waved him off and then to prove it had that huge transition block. High hustle and bbIQ kid, with game. He is going to be fun to watch the rest of his career.

--Greg Lansing spent 2/3s of the first half complaining to the refs, and then did it at the beginning of the second half. Quite honestly he spent more time coaching the refs than his own guys.

--Barnes is the best guard in this league, in my opinion. He made everyone we put on him look silly at times. We rotated well on him, but the kid is a stud. Though I'm not a trees fan, I'm a little disappointed that Lansing hasn't gotten more talent around him.

--Opposite end of the spectrum, Bronson Kessinger needs to have tape of him sent to the league office. When he isn't flopping on back downs, he is constantly pushing our posts in the back. At one point he pushed Phil out of bounds on a drive, and the refs didn't call anything until Phil actually got out of bounds. Of course then Lansing was complaining that he was out of bounds before he was fouled soooo....
 
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Jefferson not dressed today. Any updates? Attitude? Injury? Coach’s decision?
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If you hadn’t foe’d me, you would have known 4 days ago. Lol
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Hey, I try to space out my posts now. I totally missed that in the Josh Jefferson thread. LOL.
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The sad thing is we now only have three guards. What if Keyshawn's knee flares up again? People behind me were complaining about Hein getting too much time...but he's got to play big minutes now.

Milik really busts his ass playing post D. He had to handle their big guy and did a real good job with that 7 foot wingspan of his. That might be why he didn't score as much. I remember how hard he played against Pippen last year in the MVC semi finals.
 
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Ill give credit where credit is do. Phil played really aggressive yesterday. He was soft against Bradley. Hopefully he can continue the strong performances. Also the biggest key to me yesterday was Evans playing with some confidence. Evans making shots early definitely helped things open up for Phil. Probably Matt Hein's best game of the year as well.
 
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Agree on the solid game by Malik. DM said that he had Malik guard their bigs and let Phil be a rotation type down low. That's why we saw Phil out on the perimeter on D more than usual. It seemed to have some positive effects because Malik is so good guarding bigs down low and you have Phil rotating around on the help side of things. Very good controlled game by MY.

Zach has been struggling shooting -- I don't think he has forced it that much but everything is magnified when shots are going down so it can appear that you may be forcing things. DM said that Zach played a great game as the point and on defense as well. He commented how valuable Zach was to the 1 or 2 and does some great things for the team even if the stats aren't as impressive. Interesting take.

Nice bounce back from the stink in P-town. Consistency is the key to this team's success because they don't have that much threshold for anything less. If they can only take this on the road with them....Drake is up next.
 
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I like that Idowu is getting minutes while showing improvement every game. I hope he's a BIG part of the future of this team.
 
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Redbird Arena was a library for most of the game yesterday. The officiating was awful and inconsistent on both ends of the court for both teams. I think there was like five minutes left in the first half before INST got called for one? There were so many missed travels, and double dribbles that have been called most of the year. It was just bad.

I loved that in bound play to Phil for the oop. It was a thing of beauty. Watching live, it looked like it could have been Phil or Chas throwing it down. I saw a tweet that describes Chas very well.
https://twitter.com/hoops_mvc/status/1089643491586699264


Who else in the MVC has had this reputation in the past? My original thought was Baker, but Chas doesn't flop and actually takes charges. I'm sure there are some obvious ones I am forgetting. I'm trying to think of those guys who seemed to be the the league forever but weren't necessarily "scorers."

I do think Milik's injury is taking a bit of a toll on him because he has not been able to score at will like in previous weeks. Instead, he has slowed down and made better decisions because he is more limited. I actually see this as a good thing. Check out the change in his turnovers the last few games. In the first six conference games, he averaged 4.4 TO per game. Since he has been slowed with the injury over the last two, he is averaging 2. Maybe even when he gets healthy, he will see the benefit of slowing down and letting the game come to him.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the play where Hein lost track of the ball and had to race to the back court to create a turnover. Muller sure was angry on that one.

I think Copeland is struggling to know exactly what is role is. At the beginning of the year it was clear that he should be aggressive to score, and I think it still is. However, he is playing more of the point now than he was then which gives him a lot more to think about. I think he'll be fine in a few games when he settles in and learns to pick his spots scoring the ball.

Another GREAT game from Rey. I hope he gets a bunch of minutes on Saturday. If nothing else, to just lean against Krutwig and wear him down more than Phil/Milik does and keep him on the bench. Loyola has shown they don't need Williamson to have success.

All in all, this was the best complete effort all year. Some break downs, of course, but it is much better to learn these things in a win than a loss. Another huge four games for us that could either keep us in the middle of the pack, or establish separation.
 
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Adunk33 said:
Redbird Arena was a library for most of the game yesterday. The officiating was awful and inconsistent on both ends of the court for both teams. I think there was like five minutes left in the first half before INST got called for one? There were so many missed travels, and double dribbles that have been called most of the year. It was just bad.

I loved that in bound play to Phil for the oop. It was a thing of beauty. Watching live, it looked like it could have been Phil or Chas throwing it down. I saw a tweet that describes Chas very well.
https://twitter.com/hoops_mvc/status/1089643491586699264


Who else in the MVC has had this reputation in the past? My original thought was Baker, but Chas doesn't flop and actually takes charges. I'm sure there are some obvious ones I am forgetting. I'm trying to think of those guys who seemed to be the the league forever but weren't necessarily "scorers."
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I think the alley oop to Fayne started with Chas faking that he was supposed to take it. The defender stayed with Chas and Phil slid over to take it. Very cool play, actually.
 
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I think the alley oop to Fayne started with Chas faking that he was supposed to take it. The defender stayed with Chas and Phil slid over to take it. Very cool play, actually.
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For those of you who say Muller creates nothing during time outs, I think you are right. I saw Key and Fayne over to the side of the huddle and they drew it up. I actually heard Key say, "We are not doing what Coach wants, let's do this instead."

If you don't recognize humor, that is a joke. Great call my Coach Dan.

GO BIRDS!
 
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