Redbirdfan21
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Just curious as to the responses. No comments needed. I think these are anonymous? If not, maybe they can be?
The voting is anonymous, even I can't see who voted for what.Just curious as to the responses. No comments needed. I think these are anonymous? If not, maybe they can be?
CEO/President/Board Chairs (or some combination thereof) for State Farm and Progressive are ISU graduates. Just wondering where that factors in to the equation.Looking at the NIL, who does it benefit the most? The athletes and big corporations that can deduct the “donations” as an advertising expense. I as an individual gain really nothing from paying an athlete for their name and likeness, but a company that wants that name recognition on the product they are selling gets a big benefit from it. Can you say Air Jordans. A lot more I could say but if your University does not have a major company that wants that name recognition you are at a huge disadvantage. At least I get a potential tax deduction if I donate to a nonprofit part of the University. NIL doesn’t have much benefit for me as an individual. Season ticket premium gets one better seats. NIL is one way for a business to advertise what they are selling associated with a name. Last thought “how much NIL would Michael Jordan gotten as a sophomore after hitting the national championship shot.”
I get your concern and frustration, but it is about remaining competitive. If JK leaves behind 50K, then in theory, that leaves 50K for the next guy. If JK leaves behind $0, that leaves $0 for the next guy. The next guy (hopefully of a similar caliber) will be more likely to come for 50K than for 0. It is all about competition and we have to remain competitive with other programs. You have to view it as part of "the greater good of the program". With that being said, do as you wish. Just putting my perspective out there. I'll add that I have not donated to the campaign but am considering it.Here is my dilemma for donating to NI. It doesn’t matter the amount but say I donate $500-$1000. For discussion purposes let’s say we give Johnny K $50,000 this year. He has a very good year but ISU does not make the NCAA tournament. Johnny K jumps into the portal after next season to take a larger offer. What did I receive for my NIL donation? I will totally feel like I received zero return for my NIL donation. This will continue to happen because the P5 schools will always be able to offer more. So my question is why do I donate when the player will leave for a bigger offer?
Well said. That's where I'm at with it – it sucks, but it's the hand the NCAA has dealt mid-majors. If we're gonna try and be competitive in the NIL game, ISU has to dive in. Upon hearing the rumor that Skunberg got $80k, if true, I say good. Can't nickel and dime guys. Let it be out there for other potential recruits that that's what ISU has to offer.I get your concern and frustration, but it is about remaining competitive. If JK leaves behind 50K, then in theory, that leaves 50K for the next guy. If JK leaves behind $0, that leaves $0 for the next guy. The next guy (hopefully of a similar caliber) will be more likely to come for 50K than for 0. It is all about competition and we have to remain competitive with other programs. You have to view it as part of "the greater good of the program". With that being said, do as you wish. Just putting my perspective out there. I'll add that I have not donated to the campaign but am considering it.
Thanks Boden.Well said. That's where I'm at with it – it sucks, but it's the hand the NCAA has dealt mid-majors. If we're gonna try and be competitive in the NIL game, ISU has to dive in. Upon hearing the rumor that Skunberg got $80k, if true, I say good. Can't nickel and dime guys. Let it be out there for other potential recruits that that's what ISU has to offer.
And that's not a criticism of peoples' willingness to donate or not, just NIL in general. Might as well embrace it.
The part of NIL that I really like is the merchandise aspect. It also gives you an opportunity to support specific players (of course they can still transfer at any time). I bought the autographed trading cards because I wanted them and was willing to pay the premium price to support the players (however small the amount they receive may be). I think that is a great way that our fans can show players love - through buying their merchandise. Then the money is going directly to players on the basketball team. I am going to buy a Johnny Kinziger "Shersey" now that he has announced he is returning. If anyone wants to donate to the 309 campaign, please do. This is a great alternative way to support players for those who don't want to.Well said. That's where I'm at with it – it sucks, but it's the hand the NCAA has dealt mid-majors. If we're gonna try and be competitive in the NIL game, ISU has to dive in. Upon hearing the rumor that Skunberg got $80k, if true, I say good. Can't nickel and dime guys. Let it be out there for other potential recruits that that's what ISU has to offer.
And that's not a criticism of peoples' willingness to donate or not, just NIL in general. Might as well embrace it.
But don't they? DP Dough can chime in but I have to think when I order 3 zones, an order of wings, and some tots, then pay for the order and tip the driver that the employees making the food, packaging it and delivering it are all being compensated.Businesses don’t ask their customers to pay their employees AND buy their products/services.
We are/have been paying the university who is and has been receiving ticket, TV, donations, and other revenues. I am fine with businesses being able to pay players for promoting their product but I lean towards not giving to the collectives and forcing the university and the overall system to figure this out without having to dip more into my wallet.But don't they? DP Dough can chime in but I have to think when I order 3 zones, an order of wings, and some tots, then pay for the order and tip the driver that the employees making the food, packaging it and delivering it are all being compensated.
Business don't work without customers buying their product, which the profit eventually trickles down to pay their salary.
I get your example though. You aren't paying the employee directly out of your pocket for the product/service and also paying for their product/service....but you kinda are.
Not like this, you aren’t. Does DP Dough send out a request to their customers asking for donations so they can pay their employees?But don't they? DP Dough can chime in but I have to think when I order 3 zones, an order of wings, and some tots, then pay for the order and tip the driver that the employees making the food, packaging it and delivering it are all being compensated.
Business don't work without customers buying their product, which the profit eventually trickles down to pay their salary.
I get your example though. You aren't paying the employee directly out of your pocket for the product/service and also paying for their product/service....but you kinda are.
Can’t imagine how we’d do that, which is why NIL is so odd. Would I pay a GM and then make everyone else an independent contractor paid out of tips and service fees?Not like this, you aren’t. Does DP Dough send out a request to their customers asking for donations so they can pay their employees?