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Redbird222 said:
They mentioned a 20 game schedule during the ISU/UNI and Loyola/Drake games.

I am wondering if there will be two divisions or 12 teams all in one division. That decision will impact scheduling.

If one division, I am assuming that there will a at least one rival team with a guaranteed home/home and the remainder rotates if it's a 20 game schedule.

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Belmont/Murray
Trees/Evansville
SIU/Bears
Valpo/UIC
Birds/Bradley
Drake/UNI
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I assume those would also be the travel partners if that is what they do. So ISU would go on the road to Belmont and Murray back to back and vice versa when they come here, they would come to ISU and BU in one trip.
 
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TBS_20 said:
Tried finding the video. Could not. Frustrating.
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I found the selection show, but packer and nance weren't on it. Must have been a post selection show or something. They threw such a fit. I've thought nance was a phony ever since. Fortunately, packer is dead.

EDIT: I found several articles about it by searching Packer and Nance 2006 ncaa selection show on Bing

They blast packer, too.
 
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The Valley has always thrived with the mix of public/private institutions and I applaud the success of their model. Can this be maintained going forward and are both types being benefited? That can only be answered by each individual school and ultimately the conference.

This video was excellent and included a whole lot of factors of school evaluation criteria for inclusion/exclusion and there are probably lots more cuts and slices of data that schools look at as well. Truly sports is one facet that can keep a university relevant with support, enrollment, invested interest and even revenue. The video stated that there is not another Loyola type out there for various reasons and perhaps that shouldn't be the target. I mean, come on, this school was at the right place at the right time and got hot at the right time after years of horrid results and bottom feeding. They were totally irrelevant in the Horizon league and as has been stated often in this forum it was quite the disappointing thud for most of us when announced they would join. Porter came into his own and got lucky with an overlooked and surprising Krutwig and solid role players along with a few last minute buzzer-beaters and off they go to greener pastures. It will be interesting in 10 years if they have maintained this kind of success -- but they are Chicago.

I agree with others and the video proposals that Murray State and UIC make sense from a purely men's basketball perspective but also for a future market presence as well. A Texas school would be a welcome addition just for capturing some market capability as well and maybe Arlington is a way to go for that. At any rate I think it shows initiative from the conference leadership that they are trying to be proactive in replacing Loyola but also maintaining the conference strength and optics especially if they want CBS to re-up on another contract. Those dollars are a must and sports drives those dollars.

Belmont was a very good addition and if they snagged Murray State that would be another solid men's basketball member. This would make the Valley even more competitive. The Valley is a survivor all the way back from the beginning when it has lost teams like Kansas and Cincinnati all the way up to more recently with Creighton and Wichita State. The college sports landscape has changed so much over the years and it will change some more with the P5 probably forming their own Larry Huggins-type suggested association and being completely independent with the absolute autonomy of keeping out all the rest which means not sharing any dollars with upset-minded non-P5 teams in their lucrative year end sport tournaments (football, basketball).
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You're a great typist.
 
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Adunk33 said:
Who is going to buy Belmont or Murray State? Cue Jon Rothstein, "Epitome of Brutality."
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Great topic of discussion for Adunk’s old WJBC SportsTalk cohost, Adam Studzinski. Studz is going to fill a weekly overnight 12-5 AM slot on The Score. Another Redbird to add to their stable of on-air talent (Rongey and Grote already go off on ISU tangents whenever they pair up).

EDIT: I forgot Studz is a Leatherneck, but he cut his teeth in BloNo radio so we can still talk Valley with him.
 
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Mark Grote will be doing recently deceased Les Grobstein‘s time slot 3 nights a week.
 
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cubird said:
Mark Grote will be doing recently deceased Les Grobstein‘s time slot 3 nights a week.
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Until Bears season, when his responsibilities there are likely to force him to step back from the late nights a bid. Sounds like Rongey might do the other remaining weeknight.
 
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dpdoughbird06 said:
Great topic of discussion for Adunk’s old WJBC SportsTalk cohost, Adam Studzinski. Studz is going to fill a weekly overnight 12-5 AM slot on The Score. Another Redbird to add to their stable of on-air talent (Rongey and Grote already go off on ISU tangents whenever they pair up).

EDIT: I forgot Studz is a Leatherneck, but he cut his teeth in BloNo radio so we can still talk Valley with him.
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Hahah! Adam is a big leatherneck guy. I already told him if he changes his content to something I would be interested in (Birds, STL Cardinals, and Green Bay), I'd be a regular listener. Seems like he's decided against that. Oh well, his loss.
 
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Adunk33 said:
Hahah! Adam is a big leatherneck guy. I already told him if he changes his content to something I would be interested in (Birds, STL Cardinals, and Green Bay), I'd be a regular listener. Seems like he's decided against that. Oh well, his loss.
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He should still book you for a recurring “hit”. I’d stay up for that.
 
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In a childish and shitty move, the Horizon has announced UIC will be ineligible from competing in conference championships for Winter/Spring sports. UIC's response:


Paul Oren, Valpo's beat writer and the best in the MVC shared a good analogy:
 
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If I was the UIC AD I would be painting the mvc logo on the court tonight
 
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Incredibly small-minded move. Penalize UIC, dock them some tournament money, whatever (that would be BS too, but compared to tossing them out), but let the kids play for God's sake.
 
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isuquinndog said:
Horizon League has done things like this before.

www.cbssports.com

Horizon League files lawsuit vs. Valparaiso and MVC after Crusaders' early exit

Because Valparaiso did not give a full year's notice, the Horizon League is claiming Valpo owes 500K
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

Butler leaving the Horizon League in the fall, not in 2013

In Butler's case, they did give the year notice and the HL STILL kicked them out of post season play. So Butler left early.
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I don't have an issue with assessing schools departing sooner than the required notice period an agreed upon penalty previously approved by the presidents of the league's schools.

I don't like banning the students, but I am curious how UIC previously voted on the Butler matter.
 
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