Missouri St.

[Phantom]

WHEW!

Had a creepy feeling that might happen. Beat #4 on the road then lay an egg at home in an expected blowout. This league is brutal and you cannot take ANYONE lightly.

Ugly, but a win is a win. Credit MSU, they didn't back down and came to play. We were sloppy as a shart in July all day long but managed to find a way. Defense was huge, time and time again. Great call on the 4th down to have Luther spy, obviously the resulting sack saved the day.

We'll take it. And we're playoff bound.

 

[Chi-bird]

possible horsecollar?

It wasn’t. He pulled his shoulder down to the side. He did not reach inside and grab the indie of the pads and pull him backwards.

What a highly-entertaining finish, though.

8-3 anyone?

 

[Virginia Redbird]

They should give a game ball to everyone on the defense today but the Corners were absolutley lights out all day long.

 

[Virginia Redbird]

possible horsecollar?

It wasn’t. He pulled his shoulder down to the side. He did not reach inside and grab the indie of the pads and pull him backwards.

What a highly-entertaining finish, though.

8-3 anyone?

HIghly entertaining! My wife said she did not breathe from the 3rd down until the MO State QB was dragged down on 4th! I don't think I did either!

SDSU 7 - UNI 0 at the half.

 

[drewherridge1]

Any word on Davis Injury?

 

[Brick]

Don’t think it was a horse collar but if they reviewed that and ignored the face mask on Robinson’s fumble it would have been a crime. Offensive line did a great job when the whole world knew we were gonna run. Robinson 158 yards in that situation was
Unreal despite the fumble. BUT the defense was simply MAGNIFICENT !!!! Having said all that I am basically a basketball guy. But to me no way Baltz is better than Davis. Not
Near the arm strength. I will happily take the win and rock on!

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Our offense needs to figure things out quick of we are to make any kind of run. Baltz needs to bring his lunchpail to work and log some OT in the film room.

Opportunity, brotha!

 

[Metamoron]

Defense was awesome. One big play and not much else.

Had backup QBs got a few series early in the year when Davis struggled may not have been so overwhelmed today.

Take a win and move on.

 

[redbirdfan04]

Wow, I don't think we can even argue amongst each other on this one lol! Hey it's a win, now let's hope Brady, Proctor's, and gillum can all get back on the field next week. YSU losing today is huge. I'm hoping they have complety thrown in the towel next week.

 

[redbirdfan04]

Our offense needs to figure things out quick of we are to make any kind of run. Baltz needs to bring his lunchpail to work and log some OT in the film room.

Opportunity, brotha!

Cali it is beyond film it is live reps and another 40 pounds! He's not game ready but I'm ready to back him if Brady is out.

 

[Virginia Redbird]

Don’t think it was a horse collar but if they reviewed that and ignored the face mask on Robinson’s fumble it would have been a crime. Offensive line did a great job when the whole world knew we were gonna run. Robinson 158 yards in that situation was
Unreal despite the fumble. BUT the defense was simply MAGNIFICENT !!!! Having said all that I am basically a basketball guy. But to me no way Baltz is better than Davis. Not
Near the arm strength. I will happily take the win and rock on!

Baltz had two attempted passes and next to no playing time all year. He is the backup so he got likely zero reps in practice with the 1st team and he is thrust into the game. Is he as good as Davis? Of course not at this juncture but it is a bit early I think to make an across the board statement of not having near the arm strength. One of Davis's biggest weaknesses is he can't throw the long ball accurately. He has a track record. Baltz really does not. The interception he should not have thrown. He had a defender all over him and the ball sailed. He was short on the pass near the end zone that could well have been a TD. That was pretty much his whole performance today except for handing off. If Brady can't play next week Baltz will get a full week of prep as the starter and we will get a better idea of how well he can play. Two passes I don't really think is enough of a track record.

 

[Bender]

Any word on Davis Injury?

I listened to the postgame show on the way home from the game and Spack said they've scheduled an MRI and he mentioned that Davis was pain free but the knee buckled on him multiple times in the game. Spack said that's the knee Davis had an ACL injury in at Memphis.

 

[TIMMY]

Any word on Davis Injury?

I listened to the postgame show on the way home from the game and Spack said they've scheduled an MRI and he mentioned that Davis was pain free but the knee buckled on him multiple times in the game. Spack said that's the knee Davis had an ACL injury in at Memphis.

Somethings floating around in there. :x

 

[fourthandshort]

a full week of practice will give Baltz a better chance to show where he is at. But I'm not expecting much as a true FR.

So the UNI RS FR QB had rough day today against SDSU ... 3 picks, very little production. The SDSU FR had great day .. 15 for 16 about 190 yards, no picks. SDSU won easily, but didn't pull away until Q4. So now were in 4 way tie for 2nd because SIU also won.

Al are 5-2 in MVFC:

ISUr is 2-1 against the other 3, and 8-3 overall
SDSU is 2-1 and lost to us, 8-3 overall
UNI is 1-1 and beat us, but 7-4 overall
SIU is 0-2 and won't play UNI, 7-4 overall

Maybe the earlier poster is right .. might look better if SDSU beats UNI.

I'm so confused.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Don’t think it was a horse collar but if they reviewed that and ignored the face mask on Robinson’s fumble it would have been a crime. Offensive line did a great job when the whole world knew we were gonna run. Robinson 158 yards in that situation was
Unreal despite the fumble. BUT the defense was simply MAGNIFICENT !!!! Having said all that I am basically a basketball guy. But to me no way Baltz is better than Davis. Not
Near the arm strength. I will happily take the win and rock on!

Baltz had two attempted passes and next to no playing time all year. He is the backup so he got likely zero reps in practice with the 1st team and he is thrust into the game. Is he as good as Davis? Of course not at this juncture but it is a bit early I think to make an across the board statement of not having near the arm strength. One of Davis's biggest weaknesses is he can't throw the long ball accurately. He has a track record. Baltz really does not. The interception he should not have thrown. He had a defender all over him and the ball sailed. He was short on the pass near the end zone that could well have been a TD. That was pretty much his whole performance today except for handing off. If Brady can't play next week Baltz will get a full week of prep as the starter and we will get a better idea of how well he can play. Two passes I don't really think is enough of a track record.

I'm not a coach, but it seems really odd that your primary back up has never taken any snaps in practice. If true, then I'm really questioning Spack's ability to coach.

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

Don’t think it was a horse collar but if they reviewed that and ignored the face mask on Robinson’s fumble it would have been a crime. Offensive line did a great job when the whole world knew we were gonna run. Robinson 158 yards in that situation was
Unreal despite the fumble. BUT the defense was simply MAGNIFICENT !!!! Having said all that I am basically a basketball guy. But to me no way Baltz is better than Davis. Not
Near the arm strength. I will happily take the win and rock on!

Baltz had two attempted passes and next to no playing time all year. He is the backup so he got likely zero reps in practice with the 1st team and he is thrust into the game. Is he as good as Davis? Of course not at this juncture but it is a bit early I think to make an across the board statement of not having near the arm strength. One of Davis's biggest weaknesses is he can't throw the long ball accurately. He has a track record. Baltz really does not. The interception he should not have thrown. He had a defender all over him and the ball sailed. He was short on the pass near the end zone that could well have been a TD. That was pretty much his whole performance today except for handing off. If Brady can't play next week Baltz will get a full week of prep as the starter and we will get a better idea of how well he can play. Two passes I don't really think is enough of a track record.

I'm not a coach, but it seems really odd that your primary back up has never taken any snaps in practice. If true, then I'm really questioning Spack's ability to coach.

m :text-+1: every team routinely prepares their backup qbs in case of injury/illness to primary qb

 

[Virginia Redbird]

Don’t think it was a horse collar but if they reviewed that and ignored the face mask on Robinson’s fumble it would have been a crime. Offensive line did a great job when the whole world knew we were gonna run. Robinson 158 yards in that situation was
Unreal despite the fumble. BUT the defense was simply MAGNIFICENT !!!! Having said all that I am basically a basketball guy. But to me no way Baltz is better than Davis. Not
Near the arm strength. I will happily take the win and rock on!

Baltz had two attempted passes and next to no playing time all year. He is the backup so he got likely zero reps in practice with the 1st team and he is thrust into the game. Is he as good as Davis? Of course not at this juncture but it is a bit early I think to make an across the board statement of not having near the arm strength. One of Davis's biggest weaknesses is he can't throw the long ball accurately. He has a track record. Baltz really does not. The interception he should not have thrown. He had a defender all over him and the ball sailed. He was short on the pass near the end zone that could well have been a TD. That was pretty much his whole performance today except for handing off. If Brady can't play next week Baltz will get a full week of prep as the starter and we will get a better idea of how well he can play. Two passes I don't really think is enough of a track record.

I'm not a coach, but it seems really odd that your primary back up has never taken any snaps in practice. If true, then I'm really questioning Spack's ability to coach.

Not unusual at all. Backups generally run the scout team but have very limited reps with the first team. I have no idea how Spack runs his practices but generally, the first-team QB gets the majority of the reps in practice. With all the transferring in today's game, we need to get used to the backups being true freshmen or RS freshmen. I read on one of fourth's posts that UNI had an RS Freshman running their offense while SDSU had the true freshman running theirs. Those Sophmore/Junior players who are backups seem to be transferring out of programs where they feel they will not play and that leaves them very young guys as backups to your starters. Jefferson is an RS Freshman but it appears that Baltz has jumped him on the depth chart. Does anyone expect Jefferson to remain a Redbird if he feels his chance to start is gone? I would not be surprised to see him transfer. As I said, I have no idea whatsoever how Coach Spack runs his practices but there is very limited time available and they have to get the starting QB ready to play. That does not leave much time for the backups.

 

[fourthandshort]

Don’t think it was a horse collar but if they reviewed that and ignored the face mask on Robinson’s fumble it would have been a crime. Offensive line did a great job when the whole world knew we were gonna run. Robinson 158 yards in that situation was
Unreal despite the fumble. BUT the defense was simply MAGNIFICENT !!!! Having said all that I am basically a basketball guy. But to me no way Baltz is better than Davis. Not
Near the arm strength. I will happily take the win and rock on!

Baltz had two attempted passes and next to no playing time all year. He is the backup so he got likely zero reps in practice with the 1st team and he is thrust into the game. Is he as good as Davis? Of course not at this juncture but it is a bit early I think to make an across the board statement of not having near the arm strength. One of Davis's biggest weaknesses is he can't throw the long ball accurately. He has a track record. Baltz really does not. The interception he should not have thrown. He had a defender all over him and the ball sailed. He was short on the pass near the end zone that could well have been a TD. That was pretty much his whole performance today except for handing off. If Brady can't play next week Baltz will get a full week of prep as the starter and we will get a better idea of how well he can play. Two passes I don't really think is enough of a track record.

I'm not a coach, but it seems really odd that your primary back up has never taken any snaps in practice. If true, then I'm really questioning Spack's ability to coach.

We just are not good at recruiting, developing, and game planning our QBs. Go back 10 years .. in addition to never having been able to recruit and develop a quality HS QB, he rarely has any depth at the QB position. Think back over his 10 years, name a single quality backup we've had waiting in the wings .. one who could step right in and not hav to cut playbook in half.

It is our achilles heel ... he's usually got plenty of defense and a run game .. but pass game is alway pot luck, except for Matt Brown and Tre Roberson years, and Kolbe as a RS SO.

Wins a win at this point, but it was not pretty. Defense was pretty strong for most part ... a few breakdowns, but they came up big when they had to. Run defense was actually very good, if not for the 74 yard run .. take away that one run, they got 26 carrie for 28 net rushing yards. Kudos to secondary for their pass defense .. it was stellar when it had to be. Pass rush got off to slow start but finished fast. MoST was 1 for 11 on 3rd down and 0 for 3 on 4th down.

The other HUGE stat was our 4 offensive TOs only resulted in 3 point:

1. Q2 pick at our own 25, defense held them to FG, no 1st downs
2. Q3 fumble on their 45 (punt return interference missed), defense got the fumble back after letting them inside our 20
3. Q4 pick on our 47, defense got a 4 and out
4. Q4 fumble on our 32, defense let them get get to our 5 before getting the 4 and out

This was the difference in game ... could easily have been a loss.

 

[TIMMY]

Baltz had two attempted passes and next to no playing time all year. He is the backup so he got likely zero reps in practice with the 1st team and he is thrust into the game. Is he as good as Davis? Of course not at this juncture but it is a bit early I think to make an across the board statement of not having near the arm strength. One of Davis's biggest weaknesses is he can't throw the long ball accurately. He has a track record. Baltz really does not. The interception he should not have thrown. He had a defender all over him and the ball sailed. He was short on the pass near the end zone that could well have been a TD. That was pretty much his whole performance today except for handing off. If Brady can't play next week Baltz will get a full week of prep as the starter and we will get a better idea of how well he can play. Two passes I don't really think is enough of a track record.

I'm not a coach, but it seems really odd that your primary back up has never taken any snaps in practice. If true, then I'm really questioning Spack's ability to coach.

Not unusual at all. Backups generally run the scout team but have very limited reps with the first team. I have no idea how Spack runs his practices but generally, the first-team QB gets the majority of the reps in practice. With all the transferring in today's game, we need to get used to the backups being true freshmen or RS freshmen. I read on one of fourth's posts that UNI had an RS Freshman running their offense while SDSU had the true freshman running theirs. Those Sophmore/Junior players who are backups seem to be transferring out of programs where they feel they will not play and that leaves them very young guys as backups to your starters. Jefferson is an RS Freshman but it appears that Baltz has jumped him on the depth chart. Does anyone expect Jefferson to remain a Redbird if he feels his chance to start is gone? I would not be surprised to see him transfer. As I said, I have no idea whatsoever how Coach Spack runs his practices but there is very limited time available and they have to get the starting QB ready to play. That does not leave much time for the backups.

Yep. That's how it works. Baltz was #3 until a few weeks ago so he's had very few first team reps. Jefferson also had not had many. Whoever said never. Never say never.

 

[TIMMY]

They're really going to need to simplify an already simple passing game. It'll be tough. Hopefully a good brace, some duct tape, a little Velcro and a cane and Brady will be good to go.
If it's the rookie I'd throw the sink at him. See that's the problem. He doesn't know what he doesn't know, so he won't know where it's coming from. But he'll find out!