Lyons on bribery admission scandal

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gobirds72 said:
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gobirds72 said:
That same Coaches show session there were other questions that were basketball related that weren’t asked. If those questions are too depressing to ask, that explains why our program is in shambles.
Again. These shows are not meant to be adversarial. You can always go to one of the shows and ask your probing questions in person.


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Again, it’s perception. Do you pay a coach $600,000 to make the decisions and be a professional? Or do you protect him from criticism? You probabLy are younger than me. But, Bob Donewald use to answer the tough questions from the fans calling in. That’s what a paid professional does. You can treat it like Upward basketball or AAU. You have to decide where you want your program to go. Right now we are trending down. If the Cubs haven’t won a game all season...I would venture to say Cub fans could care less what the coach had for dinner.

Cubs are have a national fan base. ISU basketball has a local rube fan base that sadly may be interested in what pizza Dan likes.
 

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isuquinndog said:
Why wouldn't the BloNo media ask the president of a four year university in their town about it? And of course, why wouldn't a thread that has very little to do with ISU and even less about the basketball program degrade into another thread about when Lyons and Muller are leaving.

At least try and hide your agendas in threads that have something to do with it.

ISU basketball can only go as far as staying on thread topic in this forum can take it.
 

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BTbird said:
I don't get the criticism. That college admissions story was one of the biggest news stories yesterday and the local paper asked the local college about it. Although we are not an elite school like the one's mentioned, we are not immune to some sort of admission scandal. It's all relative.

Also, What was Dan's favorite pizza?
Tombstone.
 

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That's part of how the bad rich and powerful stay rich and powerful.

Fortunately, the rich and powerful people I like would NEVER do something like that though. God bless them

Yes, God bless ISUfan1. :pray: Yes.

Couldn't resist, fan1! Just messin. Feel free to fire back.

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Love the humor on here. Keep bringing it.
 

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gobirds72 said:
Morans14 said:
gobirds72 said:
That same Coaches show session there were other questions that were basketball related that weren’t asked. If those questions are too depressing to ask, that explains why our program is in shambles.
Again. These shows are not meant to be adversarial. You can always go to one of the shows and ask your probing questions in person.


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Again, it’s perception. Do you pay a coach $600,000 to make the decisions and be a professional? Or do you protect him from criticism? You probabLy are younger than me. But, Bob Donewald use to answer the tough questions from the fans calling in. That’s what a paid professional does. You can treat it like Upward basketball or AAU. You have to decide where you want your program to go. Right now we are trending down. If the Cubs haven’t won a game all season...I would venture to say Cub fans could care less what the coach had for dinner.

Donewald also shut out WJBC for asking questions he didn't like.
 

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ISU FAN 1 said:
BTbird said:
I don't get the criticism. That college admissions story was one of the biggest news stories yesterday and the local paper asked the local college about it. Although we are not an elite school like the one's mentioned, we are not immune to some sort of admission scandal. It's all relative.

Also, What was Dan's favorite pizza?
Tombstone.

Wrong.
Grog's. $3.99
 

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Humdinger said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
BTbird said:
I don't get the criticism. That college admissions story was one of the biggest news stories yesterday and the local paper asked the local college about it. Although we are not an elite school like the one's mentioned, we are not immune to some sort of admission scandal. It's all relative.

Also, What was Dan's favorite pizza?
Tombstone.

Wrong.
Grog's. $3.99

I thought tombstone more accurate predictor of his future if he doesn’t get this program rolling soon.
 

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Bird Friend said:
gobirds72 said:
Morans14 said:
Again. These shows are not meant to be adversarial. You can always go to one of the shows and ask your probing questions in person.


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Again, it’s perception. Do you pay a coach $600,000 to make the decisions and be a professional? Or do you protect him from criticism? You probabLy are younger than me. But, Bob Donewald use to answer the tough questions from the fans calling in. That’s what a paid professional does. You can treat it like Upward basketball or AAU. You have to decide where you want your program to go. Right now we are trending down. If the Cubs haven’t won a game all season...I would venture to say Cub fans could care less what the coach had for dinner.

Donewald also shut out WJBC for asking questions he didn't like.


The only time I remember a “shut out” was when someone used racial ignorance towards Ricky Jackson.
 

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To back up to the start of this. Why is anyone asking Larry about anything right now other than when does he plan to retire?

Even though the more I think about it, a guy that employed hired his son over more qualified candidates without a search could be the expert on this subject.


We are down to the percentage of fans that are probably committed regardless of the performance. I would guess that number to be 4000 season ticket holders. A small percentage might decide to call it a day. But, the rest like the social atmosphere. They prefer to watch a little ball, converse with the friend next to them and go home and chill out. Maybe even go home and cheer for their real team. As long as that is the expectation Larry is safe. Long gone are the days where it’s expectations.

Geez, why do you have to equate Muller to being the next Emeril Lagasse.


I’m hoping to compare him to the next Tom Richardson soon.
 

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gobirds72 said:
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gobirds72 said:
That same Coaches show session there were other questions that were basketball related that weren’t asked. If those questions are too depressing to ask, that explains why our program is in shambles.
Again. These shows are not meant to be adversarial. You can always go to one of the shows and ask your probing questions in person.


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Again, it’s perception. Do you pay a coach $600,000 to make the decisions and be a professional? Or do you protect him from criticism? You probabLy are younger than me. But, Bob Donewald use to answer the tough questions from the fans calling in. That’s what a paid professional does. You can treat it like Upward basketball or AAU. You have to decide where you want your program to go. Right now we are trending down. If the Cubs haven’t won a game all season...I would venture to say Cub fans could care less what the coach had for dinner.

Wow... You do realize this is the 21st century, right? The Facebook live portion of the show is equivalent to doing a call in show on the radio. If you can't make it to the show, get on Facebook around 7:35 on Monday nights during the basketball season. You can ask your question in real time. Ask whatever you want. Most questions get read on air if there is time. Otherwise, go to the Hyvee Market Grill where Muller will come up and say Hello to you and ask him there. It's not like he would just turn around and walk away. It's not a very big place.
 

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Adunk33 said:
gobirds72 said:
Morans14 said:
Again. These shows are not meant to be adversarial. You can always go to one of the shows and ask your probing questions in person.


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Again, it’s perception. Do you pay a coach $600,000 to make the decisions and be a professional? Or do you protect him from criticism? You probabLy are younger than me. But, Bob Donewald use to answer the tough questions from the fans calling in. That’s what a paid professional does. You can treat it like Upward basketball or AAU. You have to decide where you want your program to go. Right now we are trending down. If the Cubs haven’t won a game all season...I would venture to say Cub fans could care less what the coach had for dinner.

Wow... You do realize this is the 21st century, right? The Facebook live portion of the show is equivalent to doing a call in show on the radio. If you can't make it to the show, get on Facebook around 7:35 on Monday nights during the basketball season. You can ask your question in real time. Ask whatever you want. Most questions get read on air if there is time. Otherwise, go to the Hyvee Market Grill where Muller will come up and say Hello to you and ask him there. It's not like he would just turn around and walk away. It's not a very big place.

The internet is a big safe place though :whistle:
 

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ricohill said:
To back up to the start of this. Why is anyone asking Larry about anything right now other than when does he plan to retire?

Even though the more I think about it, a guy that employed hired his son over more qualified candidates without a search could be the expert on this subject.

Who were the other qualified candidates? Use facts. Not speculation. Prove what you’re saying.
 

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ricohill said:
gobirds72 said:
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To back up to the start of this. Why is anyone asking Larry about anything right now other than when does he plan to retire?

Even though the more I think about it, a guy that employed hired his son over more qualified candidates without a search could be the expert on this subject.


We are down to the percentage of fans that are probably committed regardless of the performance. I would guess that number to be 4000 season ticket holders. A small percentage might decide to call it a day. But, the rest like the social atmosphere. They prefer to watch a little ball, converse with the friend next to them and go home and chill out. Maybe even go home and cheer for their real team. As long as that is the expectation Larry is safe. Long gone are the days where it’s expectations.

We don't sell 4,000 season tickets anymore. You would be surprised how many ISU employee and corporate seats we give away. It's kind of sad to talk with the people that used to go to games in the 80's and 90's and don't anymore. There was such a rabid, passionate fan base back in those days. Too many loses and burned bridges to get season ticket sales back up.

Surprise us. How many tickets do we give away? What is the number?
 

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PK88 said:
ricohill said:
To back up to the start of this. Why is anyone asking Larry about anything right now other than when does he plan to retire?

Even though the more I think about it, a guy that employed hired his son over more qualified candidates without a search could be the expert on this subject.

Who were the other qualified candidates? Use facts. Not speculation. Prove what you’re saying.

The answer is none. They received a special waiver to hire Matt. The job was never posted.
 

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PK88 said:
ricohill said:
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We are down to the percentage of fans that are probably committed regardless of the performance. I would guess that number to be 4000 season ticket holders. A small percentage might decide to call it a day. But, the rest like the social atmosphere. They prefer to watch a little ball, converse with the friend next to them and go home and chill out. Maybe even go home and cheer for their real team. As long as that is the expectation Larry is safe. Long gone are the days where it’s expectations.

We don't sell 4,000 season tickets anymore. You would be surprised how many ISU employee and corporate seats we give away. It's kind of sad to talk with the people that used to go to games in the 80's and 90's and don't anymore. There was such a rabid, passionate fan base back in those days. Too many loses and burned bridges to get season ticket sales back up.

Surprise us. How many tickets do we give away? What is the number?

I don't know the exact answer, but I would assume most of the ISU employees that like to tweet about sitting courtside or in the first few rows do not donate to get those seats and I say that because they are in different seats depending on the game.
 

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ricohill said:
PK88 said:
ricohill said:
To back up to the start of this. Why is anyone asking Larry about anything right now other than when does he plan to retire?

Even though the more I think about it, a guy that employed hired his son over more qualified candidates without a search could be the expert on this subject.

Who were the other qualified candidates? Use facts. Not speculation. Prove what you’re saying.

The answer is none. They received a special waiver to hire Matt. The job was never posted.

So the hire was made over more qualified candidates, but the number of candidates was zero. Got it.
 

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ricohill said:
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We don't sell 4,000 season tickets anymore. You would be surprised how many ISU employee and corporate seats we give away. It's kind of sad to talk with the people that used to go to games in the 80's and 90's and don't anymore. There was such a rabid, passionate fan base back in those days. Too many loses and burned bridges to get season ticket sales back up.

Surprise us. How many tickets do we give away? What is the number?

I don't know the exact answer, but I would assume most of the ISU employees that like to tweet about sitting courtside or in the first few rows do not donate to get those seats and I say that because they are in different seats depending on the game.

Show us the tweets. You said we'd be surprised by how many corporate seats we give away, so why not tell us how many? Can you?
 

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PK88 said:
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Surprise us. How many tickets do we give away? What is the number?

I don't know the exact answer, but I would assume most of the ISU employees that like to tweet about sitting courtside or in the first few rows do not donate to get those seats and I say that because they are in different seats depending on the game.

Show us the tweets. You said we'd be surprised by how many corporate seats we give away, so why not tell us how many? Can you?

You clearly know the answer. Why don't you say how many are giveaways?
 
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