Illini LB Tre Watson and OL Megginson - transferring where ??

[crazzymark]

QB will not be a problem, secondary, Dline and WR, those are the biggest needs, then more depth at O-LINE, LB and kicking maybe.

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

I know I'm pathetic, can't help myself. Tremendous fan of Fleck.

You can't tell from just one year the impact Fleck will have on the Gopher program. I am not a huge fan of the antics he is prone to. It appeals to some and not to others. Same with Harbaugh and a bunch of other coaches. It is not unusual for players to begin to leave when a new coach takes over the helm. They were recruited by someone else and with a different philosophy. Fleck has a great resume but his approach will not mesh with everyone. Growing pains right now for the Gophers. Another couple years and we will have a better idea of how things work out.

:text-+1:

 

[Hamdonger]

I know I'm pathetic, can't help myself. Tremendous fan of Fleck.

You can't tell from just one year the impact Fleck will have on the Gopher program. I am not a huge fan of the antics he is prone to. It appeals to some and not to others. Same with Harbaugh and a bunch of other coaches. It is not unusual for players to begin to leave when a new coach takes over the helm. They were recruited by someone else and with a different philosophy. Fleck has a great resume but his approach will not mesh with everyone. Growing pains right now for the Gophers. Another couple years and we will have a better idea of how things work out.

Yes you can tell from one year. Minnesota insiders (admin and hi level boosters) RAVE about him. I come from that world.

The "antics." Whatever, dude. He's been the same guy all of his life. AMAZES me that people have such a hard time with positive hi energy engaging successful people. Mind boggling to me.

 

[MadBird]

Yes you can tell from one year. Minnesota insiders (admin and hi level boosters) RAVE about him. I come from that world.

The "antics." Whatever, dude. He's been the same guy all of his life. AMAZES me that people have such a hard time with positive hi energy engaging successful people. Mind boggling to me.

I spend quite a bit of time in Minnesota, and I don't have any idea bout the "insiders", but he doesn't seem to have won over the average guy or at least some of the media. Not sayin he don't have his fans, but there's still some questions out there.

http://www.startribune.com/gophers-coach-p-j-fleck-is-a-master-at-lowering-expectations/450454723/

Whatever, makes no difference as far as this thread goes with potential transfers.

 

[Virginia Redbird]

I know I'm pathetic, can't help myself. Tremendous fan of Fleck.

You can't tell from just one year the impact Fleck will have on the Gopher program. I am not a huge fan of the antics he is prone to. It appeals to some and not to others. Same with Harbaugh and a bunch of other coaches. It is not unusual for players to begin to leave when a new coach takes over the helm. They were recruited by someone else and with a different philosophy. Fleck has a great resume but his approach will not mesh with everyone. Growing pains right now for the Gophers. Another couple years and we will have a better idea of how things work out.

Yes you can tell from one year. Minnesota insiders (admin and hi level boosters) RAVE about him. I come from that world.

The "antics." Whatever, dude. He's been the same guy all of his life. AMAZES me that people have such a hard time with positive hi energy engaging successful people. Mind boggling to me.

Well...NO...you can not tell from one year. If he can turn the Gopher program into a consistent winner then rave on. The Michigan people were RAVING about Harbaugh after one year. Now after going 1-5 against that team from the south and MSU the rave is not so loud. They have not turned on him but his schtick is not what it was upon touch down! For disclaimer purposes, I am a Harbaugh fan but he is not getting it done against two of the teams that really matter in that world. (I lived in the Detroit area from 1989-1997 and know the feelings of the Wolverine fans about OSU and MSU first hand!) Don't take it so personally DUDE!!!!! Some people don't care for vanilla ice cream and some do. That does not make it bad just a different taste for some. I respect what Fleck has accomplished before but I don't admire his...yes...antics! I think it is kind of juvenile but if it works for him then so be it. For those of you that do enjoy that stuff, hey, enjoy! For now...he has done really nothing in Minnesota. It has only been one year! Maybe he will turn them into Big 10 Champs and maybe he will not...you cant tell from one year. Since I could care less about the Gophers it matters not a lick to me anyway! A wee bit sensitive Humdinger, are we not? :lol:

 

[Virginia Redbird]

Yes you can tell from one year. Minnesota insiders (admin and hi level boosters) RAVE about him. I come from that world.

The "antics." Whatever, dude. He's been the same guy all of his life. AMAZES me that people have such a hard time with positive hi energy engaging successful people. Mind boggling to me.

I spend quite a bit of time in Minnesota, and I don't have any idea bout the "insiders", but he doesn't seem to have won over the average guy or at least some of the media. Not sayin he don't have his fans, but there's still some questions out there.

http://www.startribune.com/gophers-coach-p-j-fleck-is-a-master-at-lowering-expectations/450454723/

Whatever, makes no difference as far as this thread goes with potential transfers.

Yep, you are right MadBird...way off topic from the thread. To get back on track I hope we get any good players that have decided for reasons of their own to leave the Gopher program. A good player agreeing to be a Redbird is a plus.

 

[Hamdonger]

You can't tell from just one year the impact Fleck will have on the Gopher program. I am not a huge fan of the antics he is prone to. It appeals to some and not to others. Same with Harbaugh and a bunch of other coaches. It is not unusual for players to begin to leave when a new coach takes over the helm. They were recruited by someone else and with a different philosophy. Fleck has a great resume but his approach will not mesh with everyone. Growing pains right now for the Gophers. Another couple years and we will have a better idea of how things work out.

Yes you can tell from one year. Minnesota insiders (admin and hi level boosters) RAVE about him. I come from that world.

The "antics." Whatever, dude. He's been the same guy all of his life. AMAZES me that people have such a hard time with positive hi energy engaging successful people. Mind boggling to me.

Well...NO...you can not tell from one year. If he can turn the Gopher program into a consistent winner then rave on. The Michigan people were RAVING about Harbaugh after one year. Now after going 1-5 against that team from the south and MSU the rave is not so loud. They have not turned on him but his schtick is not what it was upon touch down! For disclaimer purposes, I am a Harbaugh fan but he is not getting it done against two of the teams that really matter in that world. (I lived in the Detroit area from 1989-1997 and know the feelings of the Wolverine fans about OSU and MSU first hand!) Don't take it so personally DUDE!!!!! Some people don't care for vanilla ice cream and some do. That does not make it bad just a different taste for some. I respect what Fleck has accomplished before but I don't admire his...yes...antics! I think it is kind of juvenile but if it works for him then so be it. For those of you that do enjoy that stuff, hey, enjoy! For now...he has done really nothing in Minnesota. It has only been one year! Maybe he will turn them into Big 10 Champs and maybe he will not...you cant tell from one year. Since I could care less about the Gophers it matters not a lick to me anyway! A wee bit sensitive Humdinger, are we not? :lol:

Nah. Just passionate about people who make a difference in this world.

 

[Hamdonger]

Oh, and sorry for the hijack, peeps. But not really...

 

[Chi-bird]

For the record, I think Fleck's antics can be somewhat juvenile. The good news for him is that he's coaching 19-22 year old testosterone-fueled kids who probably eat it up.......for now. Will see how it works out.

 

[fourthandshort]

Watson is not transferring down a level. He can play right away at the FBS level, and he will likely have plenty of choices. He is a good player at that level, not stuck behind guys on the depth chart.

Megginson needs to transfer down though, or lose a year.

oh shoot, that's right .. grad transfer who is already on playing field ... crap, had a brain cramp on this one. wouldn't make sense for him to drop down.

BJ .. save your call on Watson, but please call Megginson ??!!??

 

[MadBird]

More Gopher transfers, both tall WR:

Melvin Holland Jr., WR from Virginia. One season left, minimal contributions at UM.

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/melvin_holland_jr_884682.html

Hunter Register, WR from Louisiana, minimal contributions.

http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hunter_register_950220.html

 

[JHBird]

:text-+1:

For the record, I think Fleck's antics can be somewhat juvenile. The good news for him is that he's coaching 19-22 year old testosterone-fueled kids who probably eat it up.......for now. Will see how it works out.

Exactly. That's the same with Harbaugh. One of Michigan's recruits got a big kick out of the fact that Harbaugh had a chocolate milk machine in his office...and the kid liked chocolate milk too...he also jumped into a pool with with a WR from Iowa after he signed. The kid was also an awesome swimmer so it made sense. I think that stuff can work at the college level. But then you can't argue with the way Urban Meyer and Saban do business either. I guess it depends on the kid. I still like the crazier stuff and I'm an old guy. College should be a little bit crazy imo...have some fun while you're there.

 

[MadBird]

Chicago Tribune reports S Patrick Nelson transferring from UIUC, 3rd leading tackler. From Hales Franciscan. Looks like he would be a solid get with two years left. Would fill a need.

http://fightingillini.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4753

 

[StLRedbird]

Interesting discussion. I do feel compelled to say that Spack has a similar culture to Fleck wrt to living well and service to the community. His approach has less of what some described as antics and a stronger emphasis on religion. I remain convinced were awfully fortunate to have him. If he retires from here, Hancock might need a new name. JMO

 

[dpdoughbird06]

Interesting discussion. I do feel compelled to say that Spack has a similar culture to Fleck wrt to living well and service to the community. His approach has less of what some described as antics and a stronger emphasis on religion. I remain convinced were awfully fortunate to have him. If he retires from here, Hancock might need a new name. JMO

1) Build indoor.

2) Name it after the man who put it on our radar by winning like no ISU coach before him upon his retirement.

3) Profit!!!

 

[StLRedbird]

Interesting discussion. I do feel compelled to say that Spack has a similar culture to Fleck wrt to living well and service to the community. His approach has less of what some described as antics and a stronger emphasis on religion. I remain convinced were awfully fortunate to have him. If he retires from here, Hancock might need a new name. JMO

1) Build indoor.

2) Name it after the man who put it on our radar by winning like no ISU coach before him upon his retirement.

3) Profit!!!

That sounds like a great idea. During halftime of a couple games there were interviews that revealed Redbird Rising campaign is ahead of schedule. Indoor facility is part of that, right?

 

[fourthandshort]

Yes you can tell from one year. Minnesota insiders (admin and hi level boosters) RAVE about him. I come from that world.

The "antics." Whatever, dude. He's been the same guy all of his life. AMAZES me that people have such a hard time with positive hi energy engaging successful people. Mind boggling to me.

I spend quite a bit of time in Minnesota, and I don't have any idea bout the "insiders", but he doesn't seem to have won over the average guy or at least some of the media. Not sayin he don't have his fans, but there's still some questions out there.

http://www.startribune.com/gophers-coach-p-j-fleck-is-a-master-at-lowering-expectations/450454723/

Whatever, makes no difference as far as this thread goes with potential transfers.

:hand: what is this blasphemy you speak ... you will kneel down and you will worship at the alter of PJ !!! :mrgreen:

More serious note .. the only impact is when judging whether player seeking to transfer might be a problem child .. a malcontent. A grey area of speculation by all of us wondering what transfers make sense. But it's all just banter by people, like me, who like to speculate about things that might benefit our program. So Fleck being new coach with arguably overbearing style (i.e. not for everyone), like other said, it may or may not be negative for that player.

But what do any of us know .. just fun to speculate and banter about our program.

 

[Adunk33]

Interesting discussion. I do feel compelled to say that Spack has a similar culture to Fleck wrt to living well and service to the community. His approach has less of what some described as antics and a stronger emphasis on religion. I remain convinced were awfully fortunate to have him. If he retires from here, Hancock might need a new name. JMO

1) Build indoor.

2) Name it after the man who put it on our radar by winning like no ISU coach before him upon his retirement.

3) Profit!!!

I prefer "Brock Spack Field at Hancock Stadium." But the indoor facility would be nice too.

 

[fourthandshort]

Interesting discussion. I do feel compelled to say that Spack has a similar culture to Fleck wrt to living well and service to the community. His approach has less of what some described as antics and a stronger emphasis on religion. I remain convinced were awfully fortunate to have him. If he retires from here, Hancock might need a new name. JMO

1) Build indoor.

2) Name it after the man who put it on our radar by winning like no ISU coach before him upon his retirement.

3) Profit!!!

I prefer "Brock Spack Field at Hancock Stadium." But the indoor facility would be nice too.

I like adunk idea for Brock Spack field .. but need a few more good years to solidify decision like this. Then assuming you wait til he retires to do it.

Indoor Facility is multipurpose .. maybe a big donor ?? Or here's a thought ... something to honor the 7 Redbirds who were killed in the plane crash ?

 

[Reggie Redbird]

Interesting discussion. I do feel compelled to say that Spack has a similar culture to Fleck wrt to living well and service to the community. His approach has less of what some described as antics and a stronger emphasis on religion. I remain convinced were awfully fortunate to have him. If he retires from here, Hancock might need a new name. JMO

1) Build indoor.

2) Name it after the man who put it on our radar by winning like no ISU coach before him upon his retirement.

3) Profit!!!

That sounds like a great idea. During halftime of a couple games there were interviews that revealed Redbird Rising campaign is ahead of schedule. Indoor facility is part of that, right?

Yes, it is considered an athletic priority. Unless things have changed in the last few months, it's not close to being a reality. A couple donors making transformational (7-figure) gifts are what's needed unless we can find 50 or more donors willing to give 6-figures each. Until that happens, it's a plan that looks good on paper and sounds fun to talk about but it's far from reality.