Dana Ford

[DWRedbird]

If we lose Dan any time soon I agree, I think Yak would be a great hire, especially with Dana off the table.

I mentioned on another message board that Yak will not be an assistant for long. John Beilein often credits Yak for their success this season. My guess is he is a HC around the time his son graduates HS, which I believe is 2020. He'll get a head coaching job at either; a bottom level P5 (think like: Pitt, Rutgers, Oregon State, something like that) or a decent MM (school like Rhode Island, VCU, St. Bonnie, etc, when their HCs get picked off to go to P5.) I can absolutely see him returning to ISU if Muller makes the Dance twice in the next two years. That is the only thing that is missing from Muller's resume. He has a high winning percentage, has won games in the post-season, and built championship level teams. If he makes the NCAA the next two years, he gone.

If Dana Ford can get hired to the MVC with his experience/record then it would not be unreasonable for Muller to get hired to a power basketball conference with his experience and record. Ford is stepping into a tough situation as I am sure there will be plenty of skeptics of his hire and he will be questioned almost immediately if he does not have success.

I agree with this, Muller could get hired at any time. Especially with the coaching climate the way it is now.

Another thing to consider would be the future impacts, if any, the FBI Probe could have on the coaching landscape. If, for example, the wire tap of Miller gets leaked to the public, he is done coaching (probably for good since he would also be caught lying about it not happening, publicly), and that could cause a shift.

 

[Redbirdwarrior]

Win, lose or draw, all the planets are aligned for us next year:

- 3 potential Valley POY on the team plus at least 1 potential Valley NOY
- 4 SR starting lineup with TONS of experience on the bench
- More scorers than we know what to do with
- More depth that we know what to do with
- Much of the Valley is going to be down
- A decent OOC to keep up the RPI
- No WSU or Creighton blocking us from being the top dog

All of that tells me that next season is probably an "all in" season for Dan Muller. I can see him, with his HEAVILY winning record, getting some big time offers regardless of the result of next season and, because of the program just about hitting a full reset next April, he seeing it at the right time to consider those offers.

Dan is ethical, young, smart, a good leader, defensive minded and has a CRAZY GOOD resume for being as young as he is. Anyone who thinks the Big 10, Big East, SEC or ACC won't be calling next year is fooling themselves.

I encourage all of you to bank heavy on this next year.

 

[Adunk33]

I mentioned on another message board that Yak will not be an assistant for long. John Beilein often credits Yak for their success this season. My guess is he is a HC around the time his son graduates HS, which I believe is 2020. He'll get a head coaching job at either; a bottom level P5 (think like: Pitt, Rutgers, Oregon State, something like that) or a decent MM (school like Rhode Island, VCU, St. Bonnie, etc, when their HCs get picked off to go to P5.) I can absolutely see him returning to ISU if Muller makes the Dance twice in the next two years. That is the only thing that is missing from Muller's resume. He has a high winning percentage, has won games in the post-season, and built championship level teams. If he makes the NCAA the next two years, he gone.

If Dana Ford can get hired to the MVC with his experience/record then it would not be unreasonable for Muller to get hired to a power basketball conference with his experience and record. Ford is stepping into a tough situation as I am sure there will be plenty of skeptics of his hire and he will be questioned almost immediately if he does not have success.

I agree with this, Muller could get hired at any time. Especially with the coaching climate the way it is now.

Another thing to consider would be the future impacts, if any, the FBI Probe could have on the coaching landscape. If, for example, the wire tap of Miller gets leaked to the public, he is done coaching (probably for good since he would also be caught lying about it not happening, publicly), and that could cause a shift.

Sean Miller is talking with the Pitt AD and is interested in Pitt's old job. Not sketchy at all.... :think:

Edit: Miller now says he is not a candidate for that position.

 

[Phantom]

Perfect hire for MSU. Dana is smart, young, and knows the Valley extremely well.

Who else remembers the 50-footer he sank at the buzzer to beat Creighton on New Years Eve in 05? I remember that shot like it was yesterday. That was one of those "Holy shit I think that's going in" shots as soon as he let it go.

I was at that game and was shocked it not only went in but that they beat a decent Creighton team Many in the crowd were already heading for the doors even though it was tied prior to the shot. ISU only won 9 games that year which I think was Porter's worst year as coach. DM has done a great job in keeping ISU competitive and has won at least 18 games a year. If he scheduled like Jank then that he could have averaged over 20 wins a year.

That shot is always the first memory I have when someone mentions Dana Ford. I too was there, and it was absolutely great. If I remember correctly Dana didn't even watch the shot go in. He threw it up and ran over towards the band. Also, I don't think Dana was supposed to be the one taking that shot, he just so happen to be open. That was my first live Buzzer beater. Great atmosphere.

I jumped from row 3 in section F all the way down to the moat when that shot went in :lol: Place went absolutely ballistic. Fun game.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Win, lose or draw, all the planets are aligned for us next year:

- 3 potential Valley POY on the team plus at least 1 potential Valley NOY
- 4 SR starting lineup with TONS of experience on the bench
- More scorers than we know what to do with
- More depth that we know what to do with
- Much of the Valley is going to be down
- A decent OOC to keep up the RPI
- No WSU or Creighton blocking us from being the top dog

All of that tells me that next season is probably an "all in" season for Dan Muller. I can see him, with his HEAVILY winning record, getting some big time offers regardless of the result of next season and, because of the program just about hitting a full reset next April, he seeing it at the right time to consider those offers.

Dan is ethical, young, smart, a good leader, defensive minded and has a CRAZY GOOD resume for being as young as he is. Anyone who thinks the Big 10, Big East, SEC or ACC won't be calling next year is fooling themselves.

I encourage all of you to bank heavy on this next year.

Agreed, but I’ve earned the right to be skeptical (we all have).
That said, if Muller doesn’t make the NCAA next season (assuming no defectors), then what?

 

[Redbirdwarrior]

Win, lose or draw, all the planets are aligned for us next year:

- 3 potential Valley POY on the team plus at least 1 potential Valley NOY
- 4 SR starting lineup with TONS of experience on the bench
- More scorers than we know what to do with
- More depth that we know what to do with
- Much of the Valley is going to be down
- A decent OOC to keep up the RPI
- No WSU or Creighton blocking us from being the top dog

All of that tells me that next season is probably an "all in" season for Dan Muller. I can see him, with his HEAVILY winning record, getting some big time offers regardless of the result of next season and, because of the program just about hitting a full reset next April, he seeing it at the right time to consider those offers.

Dan is ethical, young, smart, a good leader, defensive minded and has a CRAZY GOOD resume for being as young as he is. Anyone who thinks the Big 10, Big East, SEC or ACC won't be calling next year is fooling themselves.

I encourage all of you to bank heavy on this next year.

Agreed, but I’ve earned the right to be skeptical (we all have).
That said, if Muller doesn’t make the NCAA next season (assuming no defectors), then what?

Let's assume that Muller AGAIN makes it to Sunday of Arch Madness and ends up in the NIT and with that, lets assume he wins... 23-26 games next season (lets say 25-6). He will have a 7 year record as a head coach of 157-86 (65% WP) with wins against T25 schools and having a Valley COY plaque on his wall.

Even if next season ends up that way, dude is going to get big time looks as much of the "old guard" is now in the 70s. 365 days from this week, someone is going to offer to make Dan Muller rich enough over a 4 year contract that he and his family will never have to work again if they so choose.

 

[Bird Friend]

If we lose Dan any time soon I agree, I think Yak would be a great hire, especially with Dana off the table.

I mentioned on another message board that Yak will not be an assistant for long. John Beilein often credits Yak for their success this season. My guess is he is a HC around the time his son graduates HS, which I believe is 2020. He'll get a head coaching job at either; a bottom level P5 (think like: Pitt, Rutgers, Oregon State, something like that) or a decent MM (school like Rhode Island, VCU, St. Bonnie, etc, when their HCs get picked off to go to P5.) I can absolutely see him returning to ISU if Muller makes the Dance twice in the next two years. That is the only thing that is missing from Muller's resume. He has a high winning percentage, has won games in the post-season, and built championship level teams. If he makes the NCAA the next two years, he gone.

If Dana Ford can get hired to the MVC with his experience/record then it would not be unreasonable for Muller to get hired to a power basketball conference with his experience and record. Ford is stepping into a tough situation as I am sure there will be plenty of skeptics of his hire and he will be questioned almost immediately if he does not have success.

Let's be honest here. He'll have his skeptics regardless of how well his teams perform. That's life in college sports.

 

[Bird Friend]

I mentioned on another message board that Yak will not be an assistant for long. John Beilein often credits Yak for their success this season. My guess is he is a HC around the time his son graduates HS, which I believe is 2020. He'll get a head coaching job at either; a bottom level P5 (think like: Pitt, Rutgers, Oregon State, something like that) or a decent MM (school like Rhode Island, VCU, St. Bonnie, etc, when their HCs get picked off to go to P5.) I can absolutely see him returning to ISU if Muller makes the Dance twice in the next two years. That is the only thing that is missing from Muller's resume. He has a high winning percentage, has won games in the post-season, and built championship level teams. If he makes the NCAA the next two years, he gone.

If Dana Ford can get hired to the MVC with his experience/record then it would not be unreasonable for Muller to get hired to a power basketball conference with his experience and record. Ford is stepping into a tough situation as I am sure there will be plenty of skeptics of his hire and he will be questioned almost immediately if he does not have success.

I agree with this, Muller could get hired at any time. Especially with the coaching climate the way it is now.

Another thing to consider would be the future impacts, if any, the FBI Probe could have on the coaching landscape. If, for example, the wire tap of Miller gets leaked to the public, he is done coaching (probably for good since he would also be caught lying about it not happening, publicly), and that could cause a shift.

He could run for president.

 

[Chi-bird]

I have a feeling Dan is going to be here for a looooong time.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Muller will be the head coach at Vanderbilt in the next 2/3 years

 

[Hamdonger]

I have a feeling Dan is going to be here for a looooong time.

Respect your opinion, but I would disagree with that one.

 

[Redbird222]

I was at that game and was shocked it not only went in but that they beat a decent Creighton team Many in the crowd were already heading for the doors even though it was tied prior to the shot. ISU only won 9 games that year which I think was Porter's worst year as coach. DM has done a great job in keeping ISU competitive and has won at least 18 games a year. If he scheduled like Jank then that he could have averaged over 20 wins a year.

That shot is always the first memory I have when someone mentions Dana Ford. I too was there, and it was absolutely great. If I remember correctly Dana didn't even watch the shot go in. He threw it up and ran over towards the band. Also, I don't think Dana was supposed to be the one taking that shot, he just so happen to be open. That was my first live Buzzer beater. Great atmosphere.

I jumped from row 3 in section F all the way down to the moat when that shot went in :lol: Place went absolutely ballistic. Fun game.

I was also at the game. Great game in a horrible season. I'm pretty sure it was a New Year's Eve game. We went down to Normal and took the kids to Jumer's for the night.

 

[Bdub777]

yak if dan goes

If we lose Dan any time soon I agree, I think Yak would be a great hire, especially with Dana off the table.

I mentioned on another message board that Yak will not be an assistant for long. John Beilein often credits Yak for their success this season. My guess is he is a HC around the time his son graduates HS, which I believe is 2020. He'll get a head coaching job at either; a bottom level P5 (think like: Pitt, Rutgers, Oregon State, something like that) or a decent MM (school like Rhode Island, VCU, St. Bonnie, etc, when their HCs get picked off to go to P5.) I can absolutely see him returning to ISU if Muller makes the Dance twice in the next two years. That is the only thing that is missing from Muller's resume. He has a high winning percentage, has won games in the post-season, and built championship level teams. If he makes the NCAA the next two years, he gone.

I seriously doubt he is around on your timeline. I can see him get HC offer after the Michigan run I’d over. He has been getting most of the credit for their run. He’s a hot commodity.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Ford, Yak, and Muller. Yes, ISU is clearly the cradle for college basketball coaching greatness. Just look at all our trips to the Big Dance as evidence. Start up the chant....OVERRATED....OVERRATED. Could just one accomplish something meaningful BEFORE they leave?

 

[RedbirdSoxFan]

Muller will be the head coach at Vanderbilt in the next 2/3 years

Where’s Bryce Drew going?

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Muller will be the head coach at Vanderbilt in the next 2/3 years

Where’s Bryce Drew going?

He’s picked up a couple of 5 star commits. Potential to overachieve Vandy’s perceived ceiling appears possible in the near term. And if he’s doing things the right way, his ethics could appeal to some of the programs implicated in FBI wiretapping. I’ll believe the latter when I see it.

 

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Muller will be the head coach at Vanderbilt in the next 2/3 years

Where’s Bryce Drew going?

He’s picked up a couple of 5 star commits. Potential to overachieve Vandy’s perceived ceiling appears possible in the near term. And if he’s doing things the right way, his ethics could appeal to some of the programs implicated in FBI wiretapping. I’ll believe the latter when I see it.

I don't believe he will succeed that's why I said that. Only time will tell.

 

[bb fan]

Vandy is not going to hire HCDM.

 

[Retire 12]

Dana is an absolute 100% home run hire. I had the pleasure to get to know him on a personal level when he was playing here. He wont disappoint. I love HCDM, but part of me wishes he could have been a coach here at some point.

He wont be at Missouri State for long.

 

[Adunk33]

I just watched Dana's introduction at Missouri State. It was really cool and the crowd really enjoyed him. They had boosters, media members, students, and fans all there and he answered their questions for a good 40 minutes. I'm not sure if we did that for the Spack/Muller hires but I think it would be cool to do for whatever hires are next. It gives fans an opportunity to put the coach on the spot and see how he reacts. One question from a fan was even, "Is this a stop or a destination for you?" Dana handled the question perfectly. It's great to have him back in The Valley and will guess he will be at MoState about 5 years.