2019 Arch Madness Seeding

[gobirds85]

They are certainly bias, Rico and the rest.. That's why they keep changing. Especially since 2006. I dunno what "factors" you are talking about. They they are computed has absolutely changes. However the P5's want 'em. Redbird60451, got it right.

I have quit paying attention to it. Because it is fixed. Plan and simple. Thanks for making it your last time, gobirds85.

BB, I lied. I have a rhetorical question as you won’t answer any questions when the facts have been presented clearly and concisely...where do you think Loyola would finish in the big ten, big east, acc, sec this year? I don’t expect you to answer and I realize the question is a hypothetical but I believe they would finish dead last in every conference listed. Just my two cents...

 

[ricohill]

They are certainly bias, Rico and the rest.. That's why they keep changing. Especially since 2006. I dunno what "factors" you are talking about. They they are computed has absolutely changes. However the P5's want 'em. Redbird60451, got it right.

I have quit paying attention to it. Because it is fixed. Plan and simple. Thanks for making it your last time, gobirds85.

BB, I lied. I have a rhetorical question as you won’t answer any questions when the facts have been presented clearly and concisely...where do you think Loyola would finish in the big ten, big east, acc, sec this year? I don’t expect you to answer and I realize the question is a hypothetical but I believe they would finish dead last in every conference listed. Just my two cents...

Conference standings are biased.

 

[gobirds85]

They are certainly bias, Rico and the rest.. That's why they keep changing. Especially since 2006. I dunno what "factors" you are talking about. They they are computed has absolutely changes. However the P5's want 'em. Redbird60451, got it right.

I have quit paying attention to it. Because it is fixed. Plan and simple. Thanks for making it your last time, gobirds85.

BB, I lied. I have a rhetorical question as you won’t answer any questions when the facts have been presented clearly and concisely...where do you think Loyola would finish in the big ten, big east, acc, sec this year? I don’t expect you to answer and I realize the question is a hypothetical but I believe they would finish dead last in every conference listed. Just my two cents...

Conference standings are biased.

So what you are saying is that facts are biased?!?! Interesting.

 

[ricohill]

BB, I lied. I have a rhetorical question as you won’t answer any questions when the facts have been presented clearly and concisely...where do you think Loyola would finish in the big ten, big east, acc, sec this year? I don’t expect you to answer and I realize the question is a hypothetical but I believe they would finish dead last in every conference listed. Just my two cents...

Conference standings are biased.

So what you are saying is that facts are biased?!?! Interesting.

I was being sarcastic since bb fan says everything is biased.

 

[stats]

.where do you think Loyola would finish in the big ten, big east, acc, sec this year? I don’t expect you to answer and I realize the question is a hypothetical but I believe they would finish dead last in every conference listed. Just my two cents...

From middle to bottom, the Big East might be the best conference. It is also the most balanced conference.
As far as where Loyola would finish, I would say they would play better being the hunter as opposed to being the hunted. As far as the big ten, acc and sec, there are bad teams at the bottom of each of those conferences. I believe they would finish ahead of 3 to 5 teams in each of those conferences. Nothing to brag about, but being in a power conference doesn't automatically make a team good.

 

[gobirds85]

Conference standings are biased.

So what you are saying is that facts are biased?!?! Interesting.

I was being sarcastic since bb fan says everything is biased.

And I was sarcastically responding to your sarcastic response. I get it. Some don’t.

 

[gobirds85]

.where do you think Loyola would finish in the big ten, big east, acc, sec this year? I don’t expect you to answer and I realize the question is a hypothetical but I believe they would finish dead last in every conference listed. Just my two cents...

From middle to bottom, the Big East might be the best conference. It is also the most balanced conference.
As far as where Loyola would finish, I would say they would play better being the hunter as opposed to being the hunted. As far as the big ten, acc and sec, there are bad teams at the bottom of each of those conferences. I believe they would finish ahead of 3 to 5 teams in each of those conferences. Nothing to brag about, but being in a power conference doesn't automatically make a team good.

Illinois is currently dead last in the big ten. Loyola v Illinois...GO!

 

[cpacmel]

Illinois is currently dead last in the big ten. Loyola v Illinois...GO!

The man who preaches to the heaven's about #Facts doesn't even know what the Big Ten standings look like. :shock:

Hint. NW is in dead last

 

[bb fan]

gobirds85, I think that Loyola, and even Drake would finish higher than any middle of the road / .500ish P5 conference team that will get a totally undeserved at large bid to the NCAA tournament.

Loyola is nearly the same team that went to the final four last year, beating some P5's along the way. I see little difference this season. I don't give a crap what cooked #'s du jour are the P5's.

The Valley has an amazing first round tournament record. That is FACT. Valley entries have beating several of the P5's doing so for several years in a row. The Valley has had 2 ff teams in the last 5 years, something some P5's can't say. Gobirds85, that is factual and as succinct as I can possibly be.

Keep pitching those numbers. They don't reflect what really, factually happens. I have not dodged anybodies' questions or points. I am taking them head on. As other posters have. If you want to keep buyin' their crap numbers, go ahead.

 

[SgtHulka]

Illinois is currently dead last in the big ten. Loyola v Illinois...GO!

The man who preaches to the heaven's about #Facts doesn't even know what the Big Ten standings look like. :shock:

Hint. NW is in dead last

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

 

[stats]

By looking at RPI, which has now been calculated for the 38th year has the following.
Loyola ahead of 6 teams in the ACC, 1 in the Big East, 2 in the big 10 and ahead of 3 in the SEC.
Drake ahead of 7 teams in the ACC, 6 in the Big 10, ahead of 7 in the SEC, and ahead of 5 in the Big East.

 

[gobirds85]

Illinois is currently dead last in the big ten. Loyola v Illinois...GO!

The man who preaches to the heaven's about #Facts doesn't even know what the Big Ten standings look like. :shock:

Hint. NW is in dead last

My bad, man. I meant overall standings.

 

[gobirds85]

gobirds85, I think that Loyola, and even Drake would finish higher than any middle of the road / .500ish P5 conference team that will get a totally undeserved at large bid to the NCAA tournament.

Loyola is nearly the same team that went to the final four last year, beating some P5's along the way. I see little difference this season. I don't give a crap what cooked #'s du jour are the P5's.

The Valley has an amazing first round tournament record. That is FACT. Valley entries have beating several of the P5's doing so for several years in a row. The Valley has had 2 ff teams in the last 5 years, something some P5's can't say. Gobirds85, that is factual and as succinct as I can possibly be.

Keep pitching those numbers. They don't reflect what really, factually happens. I have not dodged anybodies' questions or points. I am taking them head on. As other posters have. If you want to keep buyin' their crap, go ahead.

Loyola lost three heavy contributors from last year team. Fact.

I agree the valley has had a great record in the first round for the last few years and as a fan I think it’s great. But I’m fairly confident the conference hasn’t been this far down the rankings.

I think you are confusing facts with alternate facts. I’ll keep pitching numbers that are backed with facts. And you keep pitching whatever the hell you are pitching.

 

[bb fan]

Ya know, Adunk, this might be the year that the Valley, with it's one bid flames out in the first round. There will be 4 or 5 happy posters coming back to me throwing it my face. Yet, many of the mediocre P5's will also get beat in the first round. If it is an alternate fact that the league proved ittself again in the tourney just last season with their one measly bid, then go with that if you wish. The numbers have not worked in the real world before, because they are cooked. Guess we shall see if they do this year. I am not buyin' em.

 

[gobirds85]

By looking at RPI, which has now been calculated for the 38th year has the following.
Loyola ahead of 6 teams in the ACC, 1 in the Big East, 2 in the big 10 and ahead of 3 in the SEC.
Drake ahead of 7 teams in the ACC, 6 in the Big 10, ahead of 7 in the SEC, and ahead of 5 in the Big East.

By using the RPI, you are correct but do really think Drake could compete against the upper portion of the ACC? Could they hang with Tennessee, Kentucky, Miss St in the SEC?

And do you think Drake or Loyola has a shot at an at large bid this year? If you do you would be the only one preaching that crap. Hell, man, good luck with that.

 

[gobirds85]

Ya know, Adunk, this might be the year that the Valley, with it's one bid flames out in the first round. There will be 4 or 5 happy posters coming back to me throwing it my face. Yet, many of the mediocre P5's will also get beat in the first round. If it is an alternate fact that the league proved ittself again in the tourney just last season with their one measly bid, then go with that if you wish. The numbers have not worked in the real world before, because they are cooked. Guess we shall see if they do this year. I am not buyin' em.

Can you point to the post where anyone said Loyola’s run last year wasn’t epic? The conference thru Loyola had a great tournament last year. It wasn’t an alternate fact, I’m agreeing with you.

As far as being happy about a first round out, for me, only if it’s bu.

 

[isuquinndog]

Of course it changed when the mid majors figured out how to get the good rpi without having to get P5 to schedule them. Now the rpi is dead and we have net.

 

[gobirds85]

Of course it changed when the mid majors figured out how to get the good rpi without having to get P5 to schedule them. Now the rpi is dead and we have net.

Agree. The bar keeps moving. The power conferences do not want to share the $$$$. They will always look at ways to exclude the non power schools. That being said, this year the valley sucks and only deserving of one horrible seed. Maybe the valley teams can pick up a few wins in the non con and climb back over the MAC and Ivy League but this year it is what it is. The valley isn’t even in the top five of non power conferences. The prettiest pig will win next Sunday and represent the valley as a 14 or 15 seed. And I will be in Vegas cheering for that team...unless it’s bu. Can’t stand those dbags.

 

[Trey_Guidry4three]

gobirds85, I think that Loyola, and even Drake would finish higher than any middle of the road / .500ish P5 conference team that will get a totally undeserved at large bid to the NCAA tournament.

Loyola is nearly the same team that went to the final four last year, beating some P5's along the way. I see little difference this season. I don't give a crap what cooked #'s du jour are the P5's.

The Valley has an amazing first round tournament record. That is FACT. Valley entries have beating several of the P5's doing so for several years in a row. The Valley has had 2 ff teams in the last 5 years, something some P5's can't say. Gobirds85, that is factual and as succinct as I can possibly be.

Keep pitching those numbers. They don't reflect what really, factually happens. I have not dodged anybodies' questions or points. I am taking them head on. As other posters have. If you want to keep buyin' their crap numbers, go ahead.

Yea, look at them they have the exact same team with the exact same record. Come on BB who you crappin?

 

[jamminjamarsmiley]

gobirds85, I think that Loyola, and even Drake would finish higher than any middle of the road / .500ish P5 conference team that will get a totally undeserved at large bid to the NCAA tournament.

Loyola is nearly the same team that went to the final four last year, beating some P5's along the way. I see little difference this season. I don't give a crap what cooked #'s du jour are the P5's.

The Valley has an amazing first round tournament record. That is FACT. Valley entries have beating several of the P5's doing so for several years in a row. The Valley has had 2 ff teams in the last 5 years, something some P5's can't say. Gobirds85, that is factual and as succinct as I can possibly be.

Keep pitching those numbers. They don't reflect what really, factually happens. I have not dodged anybodies' questions or points. I am taking them head on. As other posters have. If you want to keep buyin' their crap numbers, go ahead.

Loyola is not even close to the same team as last year dude....