I second the Motion to lay a lot of the blame at Ric Greenspan's feet. He was on his way out the door to West Point and did the lazy thing by promoting Richardson without taking the time for a professional, responsible search for a successor to Stallings. As a result, I think we went first-to-worst and have never recovered.I blame Stallings for leaving the cupboard bare when he bailed for Vandy . . . and Greenspan for settling for Richardson. We've never really recovered.
A little reality check - and I'm not arguing Richardson was the best choice at the time. But he did win 21 games one season, and finished with a record of 56-64, not terrible, not good for sure. But his successor, the great Porter Moser, finished his ISU career with a record of 51-67, a bit worse. And then Tim Jankovich had 4 20+ win seasons in 5. So, I'd say that was a recovery. Anyway, I wouldn't put it on Richardson.I second the Motion to lay a lot of the blame at Ric Greenspan's feet. He was on his way out the door to West Point and did the lazy thing by promoting Richardson without taking the time for a professional, responsible search for a successor to Stallings. As a result, I think we went first-to-worst and have never recovered.
My point is that we have never gotten back to where we were since Stallings left. We haven’t cured our cancer, signs of remission doesn’t mean we’re cancer free.A little reality check - and I'm not arguing Richardson was the best choice at the time. But he did win 21 games one season, and finished with a record of 56-64, not terrible, not good for sure. But his successor, the great Porter Moser, finished his ISU career with a record of 51-67, a bit worse. And then Tim Jankovich had 4 20+ win seasons in 5. So, I'd say that was a recovery. Anyway, I wouldn't put it on Richardson.
Tarise BrysonI blame Stallings for leaving the cupboard bare when he bailed for Vandy . . . and Greenspan for settling for Richardson. We've never really recovered.
I don't understand your post. Former players who Stallings recruited for $1000?Tarise Bryson
L. D. Murdock
Sean Riley
Victor Williams
Shawn Jeppson
Kyle Cartmill
P.J. Smith
Vic Williams transfered at the same time Stallings left, leaving us without a PG. Cartmill had graduated. PJ Smith played that year, then left. Isaac Kincaid (a stud 2-guard from Indy who was academic disqualified Stallings' last year) left at semester break. Sean Riley wasn't on the roster, I believe because he decided to go to med school (iirc). Murdock played half the year and then blew out his knee. Ryan Crowley ran point for a good portion of that season. Murdock and Crowley were seniors. We essentially had Bryson and Jeppson . . . and little to nothing else for Richardson to work from.Tarise Bryson
L. D. Murdock
Sean Riley
Victor Williams
Shawn Jeppson
Kyle Cartmill
P.J. Smith
This was the roster Stallings left. What these student-athletes decided to do after he accepted the head coaching position at Vanderbilt was their decision. So he did not leave the cupboard empty. (I stand corrected on Kyle Cartmill)I don't understand your post. Former players who Stallings recruited for $1000?
Williams had already stated he was transferring before Stallings left.This was the roster Stallings left. What these student-athletes decided to do after he accepted the head coaching position at Vanderbilt was their decision. So he did not leave the cupboard empty. (I stand corrected on Kyle Cartmill)
I didn’t know Williams had stated he was leaving before Stallings left. I thought once Stallings left, Williams then transferred.Williams had already stated he was transferring before Stallings left.
I think to declare war we’d need a BOT vote. Easier to just call it a “basketball operation”.This hasn’t been a”War” for decades. Maybe a “skirmish” at best.
Tarise Bryson and a program coming off of consecutive NCAA appearances - with a win and a scare of a top seed - is not a bad situation to walk into. Especially with a still-new arena and then-rabid fan base.Vic Williams transfered at the same time Stallings left, leaving us without a PG. Cartmill had graduated. PJ Smith played that year, then left. Isaac Kincaid (a stud 2-guard from Indy who was academic disqualified Stallings' last year) left at semester break. Sean Riley wasn't on the roster, I believe because he decided to go to med school (iirc). Murdock played half the year and then blew out his knee. Ryan Crowley ran point for a good portion of that season. Murdock and Crowley were seniors. We essentially had Bryson and Jeppson . . . and little to nothing else for Richardson to work from.
He came to ISU to prove that P5 schools missed outI didn’t know Williams had stated he was leaving before Stallings left. I thought once Stallings left, Williams then transferred.
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I agree, but they were a year removed from the NCAA. They were coming off a 16-15 (7-11) season, which had a lot to do with Rico Hill opting to go pro and not play his final year. So maybe I should blame Hill, not Stallings.Tarise Bryson and a program coming off of consecutive NCAA appearances - with a win and a scare of a top seed - is not a bad situation to walk into. Especially with a still-new arena and then-rabid fan base.