Transfer Portal '23-'24 Offseason

[MadBird]

Credit @Redbird15

I hate to see any promising athlete leave. That said, 12 receptions in 7 games last year, for 96 yards and 1 TD. Next man up.

 

[Total Red]

I hate to see any promising athlete leave. That said, 12 receptions in 7 games last year, for 96 yards and 1 TD. Next man up.

Nelson hadn't been with the team for awhile. It just now became official.

 

[BJJ guy]

Yeah, I didn't see him at the spring game.

 

[topiarydan]

also 2024 FCS-to-FCS Transfers

Man did North Dakota and Youngstown take some hits - this is only for FCS to FBS - both schools have lost another 3 on same FBS to FBS level

 

[ISUBU]

Not Redbird related, but TWENTY players transferred from Gardner Webb to East Tennessee State U. That's about an entire recruiting class switching together!

 

[Total Red]

Not Redbird related, but TWENTY players transferred from Gardner Webb to East Tennessee State U. That's about an entire recruiting class switching together!

I saw that. I figured it had to be a coaching change and it was -

Tre Lamb

Tre Lamb was named ETSU football head coach on Monday, Nov. 27, 2023. Lamb, the 20th head coach in Buccaneer history, comes to ETSU after spending the last four seasons as the head coach at Gardner-Webb where he led the Running' Bulldogs to back-to-back conference championships and FCS playoff appearances.

 

[fourthandshort]

Not Redbird related, but TWENTY players transferred from Gardner Webb to East Tennessee State U. That's about an entire recruiting class switching together!

They followed their HC from GW to ETSU.

There was another mass exodus of players following their HC Scotty Walden from Austin Peay to UTEP .. and he took about over 10+ players with him.

Think about how f'd up this all is ... coaches interviewing for their next job .. first question, how much compensation are you looking for ? Next question, how many good players can you bring with you ? Third question, which players will have to lose their scholarships for the players you are bringing with you ?

This is all just so f'd up.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

They followed their HC from GW to ETSU.

There was another mass exodus of players following their HC Scotty Walden from Austin Peay to UTEP .. and he took about over 10+ players with him.

Think about how f'd up this all is ... coaches interviewing for their next job .. first question, how much compensation are you looking for ? Next question, how many good players can you bring with you ? Third question, which players will have to lose their scholarships for the players you are bringing with you ?

This is all just so f'd up.

Considering an FBS roster has 85 scholarships, I’m guessing that this is a good chunk of their recruiting class. If you figure 20 guys graduate/transfer on a regular basis (perhaps 25+ turning over every year going forward), they’ll have room for these guys without cutting anyone. With how the environment is today, I don’t blame any coach for cutting a player’s scholarship for underperformance or not being the right fit.

 

[fourthandshort]

Considering an FBS roster has 85 scholarships, I’m guessing that this is a good chunk of their recruiting class. If you figure 20 guys graduate/transfer on a regular basis (perhaps 25+ turning over every year going forward), they’ll have room for these guys without cutting anyone. With how the environment is today, I don’t blame any coach for cutting a player’s scholarship for underperformance or not being the right fit.

respectfully disagree .. the idea that coaches come and go, bringing or taking 10-20 players with them is not fair to the kids who were committed to go to school and play football. that a new coach comes in and says sorry, I promised some other kid, without even knowing who you were ... but youre gone. Go find another school.

It's college first, athletics second.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

respectfully disagree .. the idea that coaches come and go, bringing or taking 10-20 players with them is not fair to the kids who were committed to go to school and play football. that a new coach comes in and says sorry, I promised some other kid, without even knowing who you were ... but youre gone. Go find another school.

It's college first, athletics second.

The landscape of college athletics has changed. They can’t have it both ways. I dislike it is where we are at, but these players are the other side of the equation. Likely 95% are because few athletes generate more in revenue than the expenses spent on them.

They signed a one year deal. They don’t have to leave the school. No player, no matter what a coach says, should expect they will get more than that one year unless a school will put 4 or 5 years in writing.

 

[StLRedbird]

After using google, bing, yahoo, chat gpt, gemini, etc I've come to the conclusion that there is no timely source for when FCS players enter the portal. I believe that ISU's typical practice when one of it's players enters the portal is to remove them from the online roster. Going with this belief, I downloaded the page source for the football roster from goredbirds.com, yesterday the 19th. This morning, I downloaded the roster page again and compared the files.

So I can say this: There were no roster changes posted for our football 'birds in the past 24 hrs.

With the baseline file from the 19th, I should be able to track roster changes from that date forward, assuming that page continues to generate with the same formatting.

 

[fourthandshort]

The landscape of college athletics has changed. They can’t have it both ways. I dislike it is where we are at, but these players are the other side of the equation. Likely 95% are because few athletes generate more in revenue than the expenses spent on them.

They signed a one year deal. They don’t have to leave the school. No player, no matter what a coach says, should expect they will get more than that one year unless a school will put 4 or 5 years in writing.

Making the slippery slope even more slippery .. and allows coaches under pressure to win, to become even more ruthless.

College first, athletics second.

Otherwise you are telling the coaches, do whatever you have to do to win ... kids be damned. The adults in the room need to be adults who are primarily looking out for the kids the parents entrusted them to. I get there there are stupid selfish kids and increasingly more parents who are no better. But if the college institutions can't even draw lines and make every effort to enforce those lines ... then we're even more screwed.

 

[StLRedbird]

Making the slippery slope even more slippery .. and allows coaches under pressure to win, to become even more ruthless.

College first, athletics second.

Otherwise you are telling the coaches, do whatever you have to do to win ... kids be damned. The adults in the room need to be adults who are primarily looking out for the kids the parents entrusted them to. I get there there are stupid selfish kids and increasingly more parents who are no better. But if the college institutions can't even draw lines and make every effort to enforce those lines ... then we're even more screwed.

Agree completely. But also agree w Reggie that the genie is out of the bottle. I recall how incredibly young and stupid I was at age 18 and I sure wonder how they're processing all of this.

 

[Total Red]

After using google, bing, yahoo, chat gpt, gemini, etc I've come to the conclusion that there is no timely source for when FCS players enter the portal. I believe that ISU's typical practice when one of it's players enters the portal is to remove them from the online roster. Going with this belief, I downloaded the page source for the football roster from goredbirds.com, yesterday the 19th. This morning, I downloaded the roster page again and compared the files.

So I can say this: There were no roster changes posted for our football 'birds in the past 24 hrs.

With the baseline file from the 19th, I should be able to track roster changes from that date forward, assuming that page continues to generate with the same formatting.

Players entering the portal do get removed from the roster but it can take much longer than 24 hrs for this to happen.

You're off to a good start but you may have to raise your game if you want to stay on top of this. I would suggest placing listening devices in the Kaufman Bldg and hacking player phones to monitor all calls and texts.

Or you could just ask Redbird15.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

Making the slippery slope even more slippery .. and allows coaches under pressure to win, to become even more ruthless.

College first, athletics second.

Otherwise you are telling the coaches, do whatever you have to do to win ... kids be damned. The adults in the room need to be adults who are primarily looking out for the kids the parents entrusted them to. I get there there are stupid selfish kids and increasingly more parents who are no better. But if the college institutions can't even draw lines and make every effort to enforce those lines ... then we're even more screwed.

What kids? Unless you have the rare 17-year-old, everyone we’re talking about is a legal adult. They may not always be the wisest people, but it’s not rocket science to understand the current landscape. You sign a contract. If you can’t understand it, don’t sign it until you get a representative.

The lines are drawn, not unlike academic scholarships or band scholarships. We also are talking about players getting a free education, ecxpenses, and some - a large payment (income). Nothing forces these students to leave a university if their scholarship is not renewed. Let’s not pretend that most of the D1 MBB players are choosing a school for academics.

Once athletes pushed for more compensation, they lost the “academics first” argument. You can’t have it both ways where one party to a contract can do what it wants and expect beyond the contract and the other is prevented from enforcing it.

My solution proposed before on here, if it is truly academics first: players can choose to sign for more than 1 year. That guarantees them all the academic years they want, and even if off the team, that academics-first athlete enjoys Gree school for that contractual time period.

However, if they leave the school, that team can enforce a non-compete or require a buyout to be able to play. So leave while under contract, no problem. You’re just barred from playing NCAA basketball until the end of the period unless the other party releases you.

 

[fourthandshort]

Agree completely. But also agree w Reggie that the genie is out of the bottle. I recall how incredibly young and stupid I was at age 18 and I sure wonder how they're processing all of this.

yep, agreed .. the slippery slope, the genie, the toothpaste, the sh-t ... all out of the bottle and/or hit the fan. But I'm a firm believer in fighting the good fight. Still need rules and boundaries.

But yes, too little too late at this point. The NCAA really f'd up in a few ways ... most stupid IMO was using player likenesses on video games to make more money. But I'm sure there is a great top 10 list to be made.

 

[fourthandshort]

What kids? Unless you have the rare 17-year-old, everyone we’re talking about is a legal adult. They may not always be the wisest people, but it’s not rocket science to understand the current landscape. You sign a contract. If you can’t understand it, don’t sign it until you get a representative.

The lines are drawn, not unlike academic scholarships or band scholarships. We also are talking about players getting a free education, ecxpenses, and some - a large payment (income). Nothing forces these students to leave a university if their scholarship is not renewed. Let’s not pretend that most of the D1 MBB players are choosing a school for academics.

Once athletes pushed for more compensation, they lost the “academics first” argument. You can’t have it both ways where one party to a contract can do what it wants and expect beyond the contract and the other is prevented from enforcing it.

My solution proposed before on here, if it is truly academics first: players can choose to sign for more than 1 year. That guarantees them all the academic years they want, and even if off the team, that academics-first athlete enjoys Gree school for that contractual time period.

However, if they leave the school, that team can enforce a non-compete or require a buyout to be able to play. So leave while under contract, no problem. You’re just barred from playing NCAA basketball until the end of the period unless the other party releases you.

Well .. there are many aspects to college sports that never should have gotten to where it has.

 

[StLRedbird]

Players entering the portal do get removed from the roster but it can take much longer than 24 hrs for this to happen.

You're off to a good start but you may have to raise your game if you want to stay on top of this. I would suggest placing listening devices in the Kaufman Bldg and hacking player phones to monitor all calls and texts.

Or you could just ask Redbird15.

Or the NCAA could just allow regular folks to pull reports - or maybe just create one themselves? No changes to our roster today. I'm going to keep checking it because I think my only other option is to try and follow a hundred or so Twitter feeds.

 

[Redbird15]

Players entering the portal do get removed from the roster but it can take much longer than 24 hrs for this to happen.

You're off to a good start but you may have to raise your game if you want to stay on top of this. I would suggest placing listening devices in the Kaufman Bldg and hacking player phones to monitor all calls and texts.

Or you could just ask Redbird15.

After an athlete's coach or administrator informs them of their intention to transfer, their name will be added to the NCAA transfer portal within seven consecutive days. The school's compliance department has 48 hours to add the athlete's name to the portal. or better yet just scroll @247SportsPortal @RivalsPortal

 

[glenn_ma]

I see a local punter in the portal.

Ryan Millmore - Iowa State Cyclones - Punter

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