Redbirds v Greenville 12/2 5:00 PM ESPN3

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Mixed feelings - nice to see the guys play a game, nice to see everyone get some PT andd points. Hard to get too puffed up about the "publicity" one gets from pounding the crap out of a DIII school. Pretty sure not all the ESPN viewers get that the reason we got to all those gaudy stats has more to do with Greenville's "system" and less to do with ISU's skill. High point of the game for me was when the Greenville player with only one hand made a three. But let's move on and get into the "real" season.
 

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This!! In this weird crappy covid year I will take high scoring fun all day every day. In the grand scheme of things it's a game. I enjoyed the heck out of it and I am happy basketball is back.

This is exactly what Coach was preaching on the post game and as I alluded to earlier in the thread. This game was for the team to have fun. They aren't going to go back and watch film because what's the point? They're never going to play like that or against a team like that ever again. Just enjoy that the team had fun. As coach said in the post game, in a year where they don't get to do the team building stuff outside of basketball, this was very much a public replacement of those events. The guys got to cheer for each other and all of them got to have their moment, Regardless how much Nick Stadelmen didn't want his. :LOL:

Looking through this thread, there isn't enough mention Emon. 30 points, 7 assists, and 5 boards. During the UMASS Lowell game, Emon missed a couple of opportunities to explode towards the basket. Coach asked him, "What would you have done in high school?" Clearly Emon took that to heart. He had a ton of dunks and finishes through contact. I know it was D3, but we've played non D1s before that freshman look like freshman. Emon looked like a veteran last night.

Also, how about DJ Horne being the recipient of an alley oop out of the one half court set the Birds got to run? That was pretty cool. I believe it was the first play after halftime if anyone wants to go check it out. Greenville University vs. Illinois State (M Basketball) | Watch ESPN
 
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Mixed feelings - nice to see the guys play a game, nice to see everyone get some PT andd points. Hard to get too puffed up about the "publicity" one gets from pounding the crap out of a DIII school. Pretty sure not all the ESPN viewers get that the reason we got to all those gaudy stats has more to do with Greenville's "system" and less to do with ISU's skill. High point of the game for me was when the Greenville player with only one hand made a three. But let's move on and get into the "real" season.
I think the player for Greenville with only 1 hand is Zach Nabers. Per the box score he did play 5min and shot one 3 but... did not make it. Box score says he had 0 points. I hope they didn't screw him on the stats if he actually made the shot.
 

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I just read that we still turned the ball over 24 times. That's pretty bad, but I hope it's only because of the pace of play.
 

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I was at the McMurray game in 1973. I don't remember how good they were, but I do remember ISU scoring 137 points! I really had fun and I am sure the players did too. Confidence is so important and these games help with that. This needs to be fun and not a job. There is plenty of time for that later in life. I also love that we are in the records books. Years from now, it will mean more than it does today. GO BIRDS!
I was not able to watch last night, but I will tonight. Looking forward to it!!
 

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I think the player for Greenville with only 1 hand is Zach Nabers. Per the box score he did play 5min and shot one 3 but... did not make it. Box score says he had 0 points. I hope they didn't screw him on the stats if he actually made the shot.
Maybe I was just rooting for it to go in for him!! :rolleyes:
 

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What I learned from this game . . .

  1. Emon Washington could be really, really good, Osiris-type good. He's explosive, can handle the ball, and has good instincts. Really looking forward to watching his development.
  2. Sissoko is further in his development than any "true" RS frosh Dan has had yet. I'm not counting Hawkins or McIntosh since they weren't eligible their first year here. Sissoko was a RS by choice. He's better and more polished than I expected. He's also bigger than I expected.
  3. Defense is still our Achilles heel. Gave 100+ to a D3 team. Got schooled an awful lot by shorter, slower players.
  4. When the guys cheer for each other and share the ball, they elevate their play on offense.
Was fun watching this game for a while, then got a bit boring. Glad the kids had fun.
 

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What I learned from this game . . .

  1. Emon Washington could be really, really good, Osiris-type good. He's explosive, can handle the ball, and has good instincts. Really looking forward to watching his development.
  2. Sissoko is further in his development than any "true" RS frosh Dan has had yet. I'm not counting Hawkins or McIntosh since they weren't eligible their first year here. Sissoko was a RS by choice. He's better and more polished than I expected. He's also bigger than I expected.
  3. Defense is still our Achilles heel. Gave 100+ to a D3 team. Got schooled an awful lot by shorter, slower players.
  4. When the guys cheer for each other and share the ball, they elevate their play on offense.
Was fun watching this game for a while, then got a bit boring. Glad the kids had fun.
Add in Howard Fleming Jr and this freshman class along with DJ & Antonio and the future of Redbird basketball is rising.
Did Dan say why Fleming did not play?
 

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Any of you trying to nitpick stats like turnovers, points allowed or fouls or, equally championing things like FG%, points and assists really need to watch the game and not the box score.

Here was the game in a nutshell:

Greenville takes the ball up the court and shoots a deep 3 or covered 2 with 21 seconds left on the shot clock. They usually miss, ISU collects the rebound, they fast break 5 on 2 or 3 on the other side and lay it in.

If Greenville makes the shot, they put all 5 players in the frontcourt to press the inbound. ISU then just puts whomever is the tallest player on the court 60 feet away on the other side of the court, completely uncovered and softball passes the ball to them.

One of these two situations happened at least 60 times last night. It was really fun for about 20 minutes, but kinda became boring and repetitive because Greenville never once changed anything defensively or with their offensive gameplan. Every single possession was an all out blitz on the ball handler that will never work at this level.

Of course it was sloppy, it was a video game on easy. I'm just happy that none of our guys were trying to show anyone up by trying windmill or 360 dunks when it would have been very easy to do. When we got up 30, I kinda wish Dan would tell his team to slow down the offense and not take the easy 2 just so the team would be forced to run some actual plays against people.

As it is, I think MAYBE the freshmen and walkons got something out of this, but overall it was just kind of a goofy waste of time. A real fun screenshot to open my phone expecting 98 to 70 and seeing 108 to 177. I woke up my wife and said "Sorry, but you gotta see this".
 

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What I like most about Sissoko is his high motor. Seems like a kid that really wants to win.
 
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I did not watch much of the OSU game, so this my 1st real look at many of the players. I was able to watch the entire game today. The amount of sloppy passes was discouraging. I was encouraged by how much of a man Sissoko is and by Washington. Also, Kotov is not near as skinny as I thought. This group of Redbirds has some hope. I really wanted to see Fleming play in an open court. Hopefully, we see Fleming and Dusan on Saturday.
 
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