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Redbirdmike

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I hope they get in, but it doesn’t look good. Right now Joe Lunardi has them as 2nd team out after New Mexico. They can’t afford any more conference auto bid surprises
 

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I hope they get in, but it doesn’t look good. Right now Joe Lunardi has them as 2nd team out after New Mexico. They can’t afford any more conference auto bid surprises
Don’t understand how A&M is in with their resume, hopefully the lose today. How Oklahoma isn’t closer to being out in his bracket is weird too, 3 road wins all year, under .500 in conference and 12 quad 1 losses, doesn’t that show they can’t hang with the ncaa tourney teams
 

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Don’t understand how A&M is in with their resume, hopefully the lose today. How Oklahoma isn’t closer to being out in his bracket is weird too, 3 road wins all year, under .500 in conference and 12 quad 1 losses, doesn’t that show they can’t hang with the ncaa tourney teams

You would think so, but the committee has show time and time again that those things don't matter for big conferences, it's all about the conference name for them.
 

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Don’t understand how A&M is in with their resume, hopefully the lose today. How Oklahoma isn’t closer to being out in his bracket is weird too, 3 road wins all year, under .500 in conference and 12 quad 1 losses, doesn’t that show they can’t hang with the ncaa tourney teams
Dayton is another team that I have no clue why they are solidly in as an at large. Their metrics are good, but their best win is against St. John’s, a bubble team. And they didn’t win their conference regular season and were knocked out in the quarterfinals of the conference tournament.
 

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Dayton is another team that I have no clue why they are solidly in as an at large. Their metrics are good, but their best win is against St. John’s, a bubble team. And they didn’t win their conference regular season and were knocked out in the quarterfinals of the conference tournament.
Dayton’s resume/metrics are barely better than Indiana State’s. Yet Dayton is a projected 7-8 seed and Indiana State is projected out. The difference in conference rank is a grand total of 1.
 

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Gotta include Texas A&M, Virginia, and Seton Hall instead of Indiana State. I can't take the selection committee serious because of constant choices like this.
 

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Dayton’s resume/metrics are barely better than Indiana State’s. Yet Dayton is a projected 7-8 seed and Indiana State is projected out. The difference in conference rank is a grand total of 1.
Look at the non-conference. Dayton has the #9 NC SOS, while Indiana State is down at #318. If you swapped the non-conferences, Indiana State is safely in and Dayton is the one on the wrong side of the bubble.
 

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Dayton’s resume/metrics are barely better than Indiana State’s. Yet Dayton is a projected 7-8 seed and Indiana State is projected out. The difference in conference rank is a grand total of 1.
Not that I think it’s a big deal, but since we are going to say that the Tree’s should get in because of their 28 NET ranking, Dayton has a 22 NET.
 

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Look at the non-conference. Dayton has the #9 NC SOS, while Indiana State is down at #318. If you swapped the non-conferences, Indiana State is safely in and Dayton is the one on the wrong side of the bubble.
Yep. I want the Trees in as much as anyone here, but Dayton has a more impressive noncon schedule.
 

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Look at the non-conference. Dayton has the #9 NC SOS, while Indiana State is down at #318. If you swapped the non-conferences, Indiana State is safely in and Dayton is the one on the wrong side of the bubble.
You sure about that? If Indiana state finished third in the Valley and got bounced in the quarterfinals like Dayton did in their conference tournament, would they still get in if they had the #9 non conference schedule?

I just don’t think Dayton did enough in conference to be an at large. And that conference isn’t that much better than the Valley. That conference is a one bid league if Dayton actually won the conference tournament.

But you are correct in that Indiana States non conference was weak and that also with the Illinois State loss at home might doom them.
 

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You sure about that? If Indiana state finished third in the Valley and got bounced in the quarterfinals like Dayton did in their conference tournament, would they still get in if they had the #9 non conference schedule?

I just don’t think Dayton did enough in conference to be an at large. And that conference isn’t that much better than the Valley. That conference is a one bid league if Dayton actually won the conference tournament.

But you are correct in that Indiana States non conference was weak and that also with the Illinois State loss at home might doom them.
I 100% believe that. I said switch the non-conferences schedules. Indiana State would be a lock if they picked up 3 Quad-1 wins in the non-conference.
 

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Texas A&M beat UK. Indiana State is in trouble.
If they go to the NIT and Bradley gets bounced, it might be worth it.
 

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Texas A&M beat UK. Indiana State is in trouble.
If they go to the NIT and Bradley gets bounced, it might be worth it.
Bradley’s 58 NET should lock them in the NIT. It is going to be hard to get teams to commit to the NIT because of player’s entering the Portal.
 

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Everything and every decision in college sports is based on one thing, and one thing alone...$$$$$$$. The jackals at the ncaa are giving everything they can to the bigger schools in hopes of placating them and keeping them under their umbrella. How many billionaires say, "oh, I'm fine as I have enough billions, so please feel free to give the little guys some $$$"? Trickle down doesn't work in college sports. The "haves" make the decisions and if you don't like it, well, there always DII or DIII.
 

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Indiana State should be in.

They should be in over Dayton.
Dayton lost in the A-10 quarterfinals. Would Indiana State even be in the conversation if they had lost in the quarterfinals (or even semifinals) of the MVC Tournament?

The American Athletic Conference is projected to get two into the tournament (Florida Atlantic NET 33 & South Florida NET 73). I can’t see South Florida getting in if they don’t win the AAC tournament. If they do, I can’t see Florida Atlantic getting in over Indiana State.

The Mountain West Conference is projected to have six teams selected into the tournament.
I only see two that may be more deserving than Indiana State (NET 30):

San Diego State ((NET 18)
New Mexico (NET 22)

I would consider these three for at-large bids after Indiana State.

Boise State (NET 26)
Nevada (NET 35)
Colorado State (NET 37)

This one is a tough one for me to call:
Utah State (NET 39) won the Mountain West Conference Regular Season Title.
Beat Fresno State (NET 232) in overtime in the quarterfinals.
Lost by 16 to San Diego State in semi-finals.

The next top three finishes in the Mountain West regular season all lost in the MWC tournament semi-finals:
#2 Nevada (lost to Colorado State)
#3 Boise State (lost to New Mexico)
#4 UNLV (lost to San Diego State)
 
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Indiana State's program as they know it today is going to be unrecognizable is about 30 days. Maybe in a week!
Bradley is not getting bounced with a 58 NET.
And yes, I would guess that both Indiana State and Belmont will be decimated by the portal and probably coaching changes. And if the DeVries move on from Drake the MVC will be wide open in 2024-25. Going to be an interesting couple of weeks.
 

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Bradley is not getting bounced with a 58 NET.
And yes, I would guess that both Indiana State and Belmont will be decimated by the portal and probably coaching changes. And if the DeVries move on from Drake the MVC will be wide open in 2024-25. Going to be an interesting couple of weeks.
Yep. If Drake, Indy, and Belmont all have new coaches, there will be ZERO excuses for Pedon not having us at the top of the MVC in 24-25. Zero!
 
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