POLL: Did you donate to the 309 campaign?

[Redbirdfan21]

In answering the question, no I have not donated. One reason being, the only way I heard about it was reading this board.

I’ve seen it all over twitter and Facebook

 

[Redbirdfan21]

Not like this, you aren’t. Does DP Dough send out a request to their customers asking for donations so they can pay their employees?

But ISU CAN’T pay their employees. It’s not legal to come from the university. HAS to be a donation. So this example doesn’t apply.

 

[Bird Friend]

But ISU CAN’T pay their employees. It’s not legal to come from the university. HAS to be a donation. So this example doesn’t apply.

Sorry, it still applies. Technically, it’s not even a donation. It’s a handout. Fans shouldn’t be held responsible to fix the malfeasance of the NCAA and member institutions. Considering we’re talking over $18B in revenue for the NCAA, they have plenty of money to figure it out . . . without resorting to asking for handouts from fans.

 

[Metamoron]

I’ve seen it all over twitter and Facebook

Of which I do neither. Which means I am an old fart, member of WSF for 20 plus years who doesn’t do much social media but has $$ to burn. Seems like I am the profile that they would want to be sure communicate with.

 

[Redbird222]

Of which I do neither. Which means I am an old fart, member of WSF for 20 plus years who doesn’t do much social media but has $$ to burn. Seems like I am the profile that they would want to be sure communicate with.

I received an email from the athletic department

 

[Metamoron]

I received an email from the athletic department

Just went back and checked. Had over 60 emails on Monday. None from ISU athletics or WSF. Probably because I dropped my season tix a couple years ago.

 

[isuquinndog]

Sorry, it still applies. Technically, it’s not even a donation. It’s a handout. Fans shouldn’t be held responsible to fix the malfeasance of the NCAA and member institutions. Considering we’re talking over $18B in revenue for the NCAA, they have plenty of money to figure it out . . . without resorting to asking for handouts from fans.

No one is arguing that it's all stupid and dumb. It is.

The players should be employees of the university and they should be paying them. While that is probably a burden on non P5 schools, the P5 schools get tens of millions of dollars in TV money for doing NOTHING. They can lose every game. And they still get their $50mil plus.

 

[Total Red]

Fans shouldn’t be held responsible to fix the malfeasance of the NCAA and member institutions.

?? The NCAA didn't want NIL. They tried to fight it and lost.

 

[Bird Friend]

?? The NCAA didn't want NIL. They tried to fight it and lost.

They’ve known it was coming for many years. They’ve sat on their billions and done nothing to prepare for it. You can fight something, but you should still be preparing for the chance/probability you’ll lose the fight. That’s malfeasance. They should now be considering not only how to fix the mess they were complicit in creating, but also what to do when/if players are considered employees of the universities.

There’s not a general out there planning a battle without also working on contingencies should things not go as planned. You should be preparing for a future that isn’t what you hope/intend as much as one that is what you intend.

 

[Total Red]

They’ve known it was coming for many years. They’ve sat on their billions and done nothing to prepare for it. You can fight something, but you should still be preparing for the chance/probability you’ll lose the fight. That’s malfeasance. They should now be considering not only how to fix the mess they were complicit in creating, but also what to do when/if players are considered employees of the universities.

There’s not a general out there planning a battle without also working on contingencies should things not go as planned. You should be preparing for a future that isn’t what you hope/intend as much as one that is what you intend.

So what exactly is it you want them to do?

 

[Hamdonger]

The NCAA "fought" it. But they, in a round'a'bout way, created this. I respect BirdFriend's opinion to say...NO SOUP FOR YOU!

 

[Bird Friend]

So what exactly is it you want them to do?

Prepare for contingencies. They should have been doing so all along. Is that so hard to understand?

 

[Total Red]

Prepare for contingencies. They should have been doing so all along. Is that so hard to understand?

President Bird Friend conducts a press conference:

President - We have a plan for all problems foreign and domestic.

Reporter - What's the plan?

President - It's a plan that prepares for contingencies.

Reporter - And that plan is??

President - The plan with contingencies.

Reporter - Can you name a single specific course of action to be taken?

President - Yes, enact the plan that prepares for contingencies. Is that so hard to understand?

Reporter - No, we get it.

 

[Birdfriend72]

?? The NCAA didn't want NIL. They tried to fight it and lost.

You could also do what ISU is great at...being the last to the party. They take too long to adjust. I agree with Bird Friend. When you are spending other people's money- you don't have to have a game plan. You don't really have a dog in the fight.

 

[isuquinndog]

You could also do what ISU is great at...being the last to the party. They take too long to adjust. I agree with Bird Friend. When you are spending other people's money- you don't have to have a game plan. You don't really have a dog in the fight.

What ISU supposed to do? They hired full time NIL staff members, I believe the first ones in the entire MVC. They can't be directly involved with the money part. But they got staff members up and hired to help students make decisions and find opportunities.

 

[TIMMY]

They’ve known it was coming for many years. They’ve sat on their billions and done nothing to prepare for it. You can fight something, but you should still be preparing for the chance/probability you’ll lose the fight. That’s malfeasance. They should now be considering not only how to fix the mess they were complicit in creating, but also what to do when/if players are considered employees of the universities.

There’s not a general out there planning a battle without also working on contingencies should things not go as planned. You should be preparing for a future that isn’t what you hope/intend as much as one that is what you intend.

 

[Bird Friend]

President Bird Friend conducts a press conference:

President - We have a plan for all problems foreign and domestic.

Reporter - What's the plan?

President - It's a plan that prepares for contingencies.

Reporter - And that plan is??

President - The plan with contingencies.

Reporter - Can you name a single specific course of action to be taken?

President - Yes, enact the plan that prepares for contingencies. Is that so hard to understand?

Reporter - No, we get it.

So, your plan is to hope we can figure it out for the NCAA? Hope is a terrible strategy. You’re so f-ing cute when you try to be funny. Now, go back and read my posts.

I think you’ll see that I’ve said the NCAA needs to fix it, not us. I’ve said the NCAA should have been preparing for NIL, but they didn’t. I’ve said they need to be preparing for the likelihood that players will become employees of member institutions. They also need to prepare for contractual negotiations with the athletes’ union, the athletes, and the institutions.

Just because you can’t understand that I stated some things they should’ve done and should be working on, doesn’t mean I didn’t. Just because you think the NCAA couldn’t known NIL would happen, doesn’t make it so. They knew it. THEY didn’t plan for it. And, for crying out loud, when did I ever say I had the plan. That’s the NCAA’s job. Think about it. I believe even you can figure that out.

Now. Are done attacking me? I need to know whether to mute you or not.

 

[Aggie]

So, your plan is to hope we can figure it out for the NCAA? Hope is a terrible strategy. You’re so f-ing cute when you try to be funny. Now, go back and read my posts.

I think you’ll see that I’ve said the NCAA needs to fix it, not us. I’ve said the NCAA should have been preparing for NIL, but they didn’t. I’ve said they need to be preparing for the likelihood that players will become employees of member institutions. They also need to prepare for contractual negotiations with the athletes’ union, the athletes, and the institutions.

Just because you can’t understand that I stated some things they should’ve done and should be working on, doesn’t mean I didn’t. Just because you think the NCAA couldn’t known NIL would happen, doesn’t make it so. They knew it. THEY didn’t plan for it. And, for crying out loud, when did I ever say I had the plan. That’s the NCAA’s job. Think about it. I believe even you can figure that out.

Now. Are done attacking me? I need to know whether to mute you or not.

Looking at this as the horses are already out of the barn and going to be near impossible to round up. So what do I mean? Now that agents, tax advisors, talent evaluators, and all the associated business that comes with milking the money out of this NIL system I do not see how the NCAA puts the genie back in the bottle. Yes, the revenue that major college sports gets shoul$ have been shared. But, players in certain programs were paid under the table and now it is above the table and I am pretty sure the universities do not now want to share said revenue. This is a mess that probably leads to the “high end” universities opting out of the ncaa for major revenue sports. And, writing their own rules. Could or, would of, should of doesn’t matter. Question is how does ISU move forward. Do you concentrate your attention to football and men’s basketball or do you continue on the diversification path and become the “ all sports school”? Big question, and yes you have to respect title 9 but looks like our peers are spending lots less resources in other areas.

 

[DWRedbird]

Looking at this as the horses are already out of the barn and going to be near impossible to round up. So what do I mean? Now that agents, tax advisors, talent evaluators, and all the associated business that comes with milking the money out of this NIL system I do not see how the NCAA puts the genie back in the bottle. Yes, the revenue that major college sports gets shoul$ have been shared. But, players in certain programs were paid under the table and now it is above the table and I am pretty sure the universities do not now want to share said revenue. This is a mess that probably leads to the “high end” universities opting out of the ncaa for major revenue sports. And, writing their own rules. Could or, would of, should of doesn’t matter. Question is how does ISU move forward. Do you concentrate your attention to football and men’s basketball or do you continue on the diversification path and become the “ all sports school”? Big question, and yes you have to respect title 9 but looks like our peers are spending lots less resources in other areas.

ISU needs to hit up its big $ alums for NIL money to get it flowing, they need to get some players that are very popular in the community and hype them up big time so that they are more attractive to companies, and they need to beg/borrow/steal advertising dollars for players from the bigger companies in our area to make us look more attractive to prospective athletes. But, most importantly we have to win games. No one is throwing money behind mediocre teams that aren't in a power conference.

 

[schoolsportsfan]

Fed Ex just pledged $25 million to University of Memphis for NIL use. Mid-majors have no chance.