Non-conference thoughts

[Adunk33]

Bradley's non con

Millikin (exhibition)
at St. Joseph's
IUPUI-. UIC
Norfolk State
Radford-
Ft. Myers Tip-Off- Northwestern
Ft. Myers Tip-Off- either Kansas State or Pitt
North Carolina A&T
Maryville (Div. II)
Georgia Southern-
at Miami
Toledo

missing at Memphis

Millikin [exhibition]
at Saint Joseph's
IUPUI
Illinois-Chicago
Norfolk State
Radford
vs Northwestern
vs Kansas State or Pittsburgh
at Memphis
North Carolina A&T
Maryville [D-II]
Georgia Southern
at Miami (Ohio)
Toledo

IUPUI, Norfolk State AND Georgia Southern? What is this? The Global Sports Roundball Classic?!

 

[DannyCooksey]

it's prob the best schedule BU has had in years

 

[isuquinndog]

Overall not awful, but that home slate is trash.

Millikin
IUPUI
UIC
Norfolk St
Radford
NC A&T
Maryville
GA So
Toledo

 

[Buffett]

UIC, Radford , Ga South and Toledo not world beaters but not trash either

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

Overall not awful, but that home slate is trash.

Millikin
IUPUI
UIC
Norfolk St
Radford
NC A&T
Maryville
GA So
Toledo

:text-+1:

 

[ISU86]

Bradley non-conference

at Saint Joseph's
IUPUI
Illinois-Chicago
Norfolk State
Radford
vs Northwestern
vs Kansas State or Pittsburgh
at Memphis
North Carolina A&T
Maryville [D-II]
Georgia Southern
at Miami (Ohio)
Toledo

Home (isolated)
IUPUI
Norfolk State
Radford
North Carolina A&T
Maryville [D-II]
Georgia Southern
Toledo


Indiana State non-conference
{Hulman Center unavailable through mid-November due to renovations}

at Dayton
at Louisville
vs Ball State
vs Duquesne
vs Loyola Marymount
vs Air Force
Missouri-St. Louis [D-II]
North Dakota State
at Wright State
Tennessee State
Chicago State

Home (isolated)
Missouri-St. Louis [D-II]
North Dakota State
Tennessee State
Chicago State


Missouri State non-conference

Arkansas-Little Rock
Alabama State
Cleveland State
at Xavier
vs Miami (Florida)
vs Florida/Saint Joseph's
vs Buffalo/Connecticut/Towson/Xavier
at Louisiana State
Murray State
Mississippi Valley State
Arkansas State
at Virginia Commonwealth
at Oral Roberts
additional home game "tbd"

Home (isolated)
Arkansas-Little Rock
Alabama State
Cleveland State
Murray State
Mississippi Valley State
Arkansas State
"tbd"


is Bradley (at home) that much better/worse than Indiana State or Missouri State (the remaining MVC institutions have yet to announce)?

 

[isuquinndog]

No, it isn't. I don't blame Indy St as they don't have much time at home.

 

[Birdswin]

I think our non-conference schedule is about right for a non-veteran team:
Nov 6 - Belmont
Nov 10 - UALR
Nov 13 - UCF
Nov 22-25 - at Tournament - Cincinnati - Bowling Green/WKU - Nevada/GCU/Fordham/Valpo
Nov 30 - PNW - Purdue University Northwest
Dec 3 - at TCU
Dec 7 - Morehead State
Dec 14 - at NKU
Dec 18 - UIC
Dec 21 - at UTSA

 

[Adunk33]

I think our non-conference schedule is about right for a non-veteran team:
Nov 6 - Belmont
Nov 10 - UALR
Nov 13 - UCF
Nov 22-25 - at Tournament - Cincinnati - Bowling Green/WKU - Nevada/GCU/Fordham/Valpo
Nov 30 - PNW - Purdue University Northwest
Dec 3 - at TCU
Dec 7 - Morehead State
Dec 14 - at NKU
Dec 18 - UIC
Dec 21 - at UTSA

This works. Bummer the UAB game fell through but it is what it is. NKU and UTSA likely a h/h, hopefully Morehead is a 1&done. Then ULAR should be a buy game as well. Just to give perspective to the deal.

Belmont and UCF are the back half of a H/H.

TCU is a buy.

I think we were in a 4 year agreement with UIC. We may have one more game there.

 

[Anonymous]

I think our non-conference schedule is about right for a non-veteran team:
Nov 6 - Belmont
Nov 10 - UALR
Nov 13 - UCF
Nov 22-25 - at Tournament - Cincinnati - Bowling Green/WKU - Nevada/GCU/Fordham/Valpo
Nov 30 - PNW - Purdue University Northwest
Dec 3 - at TCU
Dec 7 - Morehead State
Dec 14 - at NKU
Dec 18 - UIC
Dec 21 - at UTSA

The UCF game date you posted here is not correct. It's November 17. http://ucfknights.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=34100&SPID=181628&SPSID=1115487

 

[Phantom]

And of course the proverbial non-DI game appears again.

They should leave out the "University Northwest" and just hype that up as a home game against Purdue and see who believes it...

 

[ChiRedbirdfan]

And of course the proverbial non-DI game appears again.

They should leave out the "University Northwest" and just hype that up as a home game against Purdue and see who believes it...

I do not understand why ISU would schedule that opponent. Btw this is not about looking down on the opponent rather it is about ISU’s position relative to the ncaa tournament and national standing and the need to be able to prove ISU is worthy come post season selection time . ISU only has so many chances of proving themselves outside of playing in the now depleted (via attrition at the top) MVC conference games. Alternatively to northwest Purdue why not go on the road and play a marque opponent and go for a quad 1 or 2 win? Beyond that this type of game is uninteresting to a vast majority of fans nor does it bring any new fans to the game,. Also It likely hurts vs helps recruiting efforts (when recruits look at ISU’s schedule) and I doubt it is a financial windfall. If ISU gets a win it is meaningless come post season and moreover ISU’s schedule takes a hit on degree of difficulty. I find it puzzling as to why ISU would schedule down vs trying to schedule up. I assume every game is on the schedule due to some type of logic and this game (like playing st Xavier opening weekend in football) is hard to understand.

I would be interested in other’s perspective as to why this is a good game for ISU to have on it’s schedule.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

I think our non-conference schedule is about right for a non-veteran team:
Nov 6 - Belmont
Nov 10 - UALR
Nov 13 - UCF
Nov 22-25 - at Tournament - Cincinnati - Bowling Green/WKU - Nevada/GCU/Fordham/Valpo
Nov 30 - PNW - Purdue University Northwest
Dec 3 - at TCU
Dec 7 - Morehead State
Dec 14 - at NKU
Dec 18 - UIC
Dec 21 - at UTSA

Front loaded with a lot of home games. No big name headliners. I'm OK with this. Now lets break the trend of stubbing our toe out of the gate.

 

[Phantom]

Scheduling non-DI games in the regular season are meaningless, even potentially damaging. They don't count in your numbers (SAG, SOS, RPI, etc) but they do count in the W/L column plus whatever we had to pay them to come here, and they just don't..."look" good. Fortunately it's over Thanksgiving break so there'll be no hype (good or bad) on campus, but still.

If you blow them out, fine, you're supposed to. If you have a bad night and/or they shoot hot and it's close, it looks ugly. Heaven forbid you lose, and it's crushing. The counterargument being that scheduling a cupcake 300+ DI team could actually hurt more regardless of the outcome, but who cares? I just don't see how that matters much, especially when you aren't getting an at-large anyway.

It's not unlike the SXU football game at all. A friend of mine is in his 4th year as an assistant there and I had to have a near-argument with him recently explaining what I meant when he called me out for tweeting that scheduling that game was "useless" for us lol - at the time he didn't consider the ramifications such a game has for at-large hopes in FCS football...he understands now though.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Scheduling non-DI games in the regular season are meaningless, even potentially damaging. For one thing, they don't count in your numbers (SAG, SOS, RPI, etc) but they do count in the W/L column plus whatever we had to pay them to come here.

If you blow them out, fine you're supposed to. If you have a bad night and/or they shoot hot and it's close, it looks ugly. Heaven forbid you lose, and it's crushing. The counterargument being that scheduling a cupcake 300+ DI team could actually hurt more regardless of the outcome, but who cares? I just don't see how that matters much, especially when you aren't getting an at-large anyway.

It's not unlike the SXU football game at all. A friend of mine is in his 4th year as an assistant there and I had to have a near-argument with him recently explaining what I meant when he called me out for tweeting that scheduling that game was "useless" for us lol - at the time he didn't consider the ramifications such a game has for at-large hopes in FCS football...he understands now though.

Friend? I didn't realize message board posters had friends. I'm very jealous.

 

[isuquinndog]

Bradley, who just played in the NCAA has a non-D1 as well.

 

[ricohill]

I get why you play it. You want a win around the break after traveling back from a tournament without it hurting your RPI. You are tired and want a tune up game going into the end of non-conference or conference (depending if it is in November or December). I hate these games because you are just throwing away a game.

It makes no sense with this schedule. It is filled with mediocre to bad teams that you could have slotted in there and played a major opponent somewhere else. Belmont, UCF, and NKU that were good last year won't be nearly as good this year and outside of the MTE those other teams will be mediocre at best.

This looks very Janko-ish and what you would schedule if you just want to pick up wins to pad your record. Not that this team is talented enough for a chance at an at-large bid, but this schedule locks you into winning 3 games in St. Louis.

 

[Redbird28]

Bradley, who just played in the NCAA has a non-D1 as well.

You know as well as everyone else that Bradley playing in the NCAA had nothing to do with their scheduling.

1 game in March. That's the golden ticket.

As for them scheduling a non-D1, well, they're Bradley. All they understand is making wrist wear, not cultivating a high level at large worthy schedule in an attempt to boost the Missouri Valley league profile.

 

[ricohill]

https://twitter.com/Pg_Benson/status/1162422353403482113

Schedule to be released Monday.

 

[Trey_Guidry4three]

And of course the proverbial non-DI game appears again.

They should leave out the "University Northwest" and just hype that up as a home game against Purdue and see who believes it...

I do not understand why ISU would schedule that opponent. Btw this is not about looking down on the opponent rather it is about ISU’s position relative to the ncaa tournament and national standing and the need to be able to prove ISU is worthy come post season selection time . ISU only has so many chances of proving themselves outside of playing in the now depleted (via attrition at the top) MVC conference games. Alternatively to northwest Purdue why not go on the road and play a marque opponent and go for a quad 1 or 2 win? Beyond that this type of game is uninteresting to a vast majority of fans nor does it bring any new fans to the game,. Also It likely hurts vs helps recruiting efforts (when recruits look at ISU’s schedule) and I doubt it is a financial windfall. If ISU gets a win it is meaningless come post season and moreover ISU’s schedule takes a hit on degree of difficulty. I find it puzzling as to why ISU would schedule down vs trying to schedule up. I assume every game is on the schedule due to some type of logic and this game (like playing st Xavier opening weekend in football) is hard to understand.

I would be interested in other’s perspective as to why this is a good game for ISU to have on it’s schedule.

I can't agree with you more. ISU gets no benefit by scheduling this game other than padding the stats. Most of us would take the p5 road game but I think in the world we live in a h & a vs somebody like a Rhode island/ George Mason/ Temple type caliber would be more beneficial to the team and program. I'm not sure why this is so hard to comprehend but apparently is...