I get it. It is almost like everyone knows why they did it, so the committee didn't even try to insult our intelligience by making up any bogus reasons.
NIT Board announces changes to NIT and use of experimental rules
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So let me get this straight: A team from the MVC (Let's say Illinois State) could technically go say 23-8, win the conference regular season and then just have their season end without invite to any major post-season tournament? Meanwhile, a team like Rutgers could go 14-17, take 8th in the B10, and get not only an automatic entry, but a HOME GAME in Rd one?
Am I reading this right?
Am I reading this right?
That is correct.
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So what are they gonna do in 2025 when the PAC-12 no longer exists?
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They're gonna re-do the rules to correct any "issues" that occured such as a "mid-major" getting too uppity.
No technically about it. This is a very real possibility (other than the ISU part) of happening this season. If Drakes wins, loses on Friday in STL they will probably stay home.
I'm absolutely pissed about the change in the NIT. That being said, it definitely will not hurt the MVC as much as other mid and low major conferences.... in fact, it may even help them. The mediocre P6 teams have traditionally been bid stealers for the NIT. A 17-16 P6 team would often have the edge over a 22-9 MVC team for example. Under this new model, there are 12 automatic bids, no matter what. This is similar to what we see from year to year. Last year was 11 automatic bids.
Last year, there were the following 21 at large bids (sorted from worst record to best):
There were 13 P6 teams that received at large bids, compared to 8 mid majors. In fact, there were 2 from each P6 conference as well. These mid majors included the conferences you'd expect in MWC, WCC, AAC, as well as CUSA (had a very good year last year) in addition to deserving teams from the ASUN and WAC.
Last year, there were the following 21 at large bids (sorted from worst record to best):
| Team | Conference | Overall record | Appearance | Last bid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
SEC | 16–16 | 11th | 2022 | |
| 17–16 | 13th | 2022 | ||
| 17–15 | 10th | 2007 | ||
| 17–15 | 18th | 2012 | ||
| 17–16 | 18th | 2004 | ||
| 17–16 | 7th | 2022 | ||
| 17–14 | 5th | 1996 | ||
| 18–15 | 13th | 2018 | ||
UCF | 18–14 | 3rd | 2017 | |
| 19–14 | 13th | 2022 | ||
| 19–14 | 15th | 2006 | ||
ACC | 19–14 | 14th | 2016 | |
SEC | 20–14 | 14th | 2022 | |
| 21–12 | 11th | 2010 | ||
| 22–11 | 20th | 2011 | ||
ACC | 23–10 | 18th | 2019 | |
| 23–9 | 7th | 2022 | ||
WAC | 25–7 | 2nd | 2019 | |
UAB | 25–9 | 13th | 2016 | |
ASUN | 26–8 | 1st | Never | |
| 26–7 | 2nd | 2022 |
On the other hand, these were the automatic bids:
I'd say Toledo and Bradley were the most deserving from this group, but most of the others would be far from a lock under the new model. This would open the door for a 23-10 SIU, a 21-11 Belmont, and/or a 22-12 Indiana State to potentially steal bids.
I'd say Toledo and Bradley were the most deserving from this group, but most of the others would be far from a lock under the new model. This would open the door for a 23-10 SIU, a 21-11 Belmont, and/or a 22-12 Indiana State to potentially steal bids.
It is a possibility, but more likely Drake will lose what would have been a home game in round 1. So wrong. Just like non-conference games.
But take Ohio St from last year. They would have been the 2nd Big Whatever team with an autobid in the NIT. How does that figure into what you posted above? That means less spots for those teams that were auto bids before.
Fair point, I forgot that the criteria was NET ranking. I still don't think it will have as big of an effect on the MVC as we think. It will primarily squeeze out the low majors. I think the worst part of the deal is that the P6 teams automatically host. That is such complete garbage.
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To quote the late, great comedian George Carlin, "It's a big club, and you ain't in it!"
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Or to twist an old adage: if you have to ask what the criteria are, you don’t qualify.
Yes. You. Are.
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I am not even sure it is mathematically possible for sixteen Big East, Big Ten and Big Twelve schools to not qualify for the Big Dance.
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Fox must have more money then they know how to spend. And I do not see alumni/fans of those BE/B10/B12 making a special trip to attend (now, maybe if they were already going to gamble on the NCAA and they just wanted to occupy some time ...)
Gavitt: NIT tweaks made to combat new tourney
The postseason NIT made changes to its selection criteria as a preventative measure to combat a new tournament expected to begin as early as 2025.
Fox must have more money then they know how to spend. And I do not see alumni/fans of those BE/B10/B12 making a special trip to attend (now, maybe if they were already going to gamble on the NCAA and they just wanted to occupy some time ...)
Yeah I won't be watching that. Pretty soon the 12th place team in a power conference is going to play in the post season. Stupid.
If history says anything, most of those teams would be free to play if they allowed all of the teams that got knocked out of the NCAA tournament the first weekend to play.