NCAA Tournament

[JHBird]

My D1 athlete’s season is over. Like many other universities, they are extending Spring Break, and learning remotely thereafter, asking kids to remain away from campus. Yet requiring even out of season athletes to stay a keep working out. Kind of shocking they value the student athlete safety less than the average student. Maybe that stance will change.

I can just imagine all those kids coming to Daytona Beach from all over, and then infecting each other, then of course returning home. Literally like shit hitting the fan.

 

[ILLST25]

The whole tournament is now officially canceled.

 

[HT59]

Will be interesting what happens in two weeks. My prediction is this is all an overreaction (not just the NCAA). I am betting the Sweet 16 and Final 4 has fans.

Supposedly Caronavirus will be worse in a few weeks here in terms of number of cases. The fatality rate is significantly lower for low risk age groups compared to past viruses. This is all being ginned up by the media to tank the economy in an election year. If the over reaction to this virus becomes the new normal, we’re screwed.

Absolutely!

 

[Hamdonger]

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JMO. Got to hand it to those bowing out, though. That is a whale ton of revenue. Which I suppose gives the reaction to all of this some credibility.

BTW. China has been absolutely demolished, right? Is anyone still alive there?? Dang, I really liked that Olympic hurdler.

 

[bombay]

No basketball - or any other sports - so all of you head down to the Castle Theatre tonight to see Ana Popovic. She's so good.

 

[StLRedbird]

There is an upside. Bradley got screwed. Hee hee.

 

[The Beak]

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JMO. Got to hand it to those bowing out, though. That is a whale ton of revenue. Which I suppose gives the reaction to all of this some credibility.

BTW. China has been absolutely demolished, right? Is anyone still alive there?? Dang, I really liked that Olympic hurdler.

'dinger you're usually a voice of reason here. This isn't one of your better takes.

 

[Redbird222]

What we know and don't know after NCAA tournament cancellations http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28893468/what-know-know-ncaa-tournament-cancellations
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

We get mentioned as an example on revenue impact for cancelling games

 

[TIMMY]

My D1 athlete’s season is over. Like many other universities, they are extending Spring Break, and learning remotely thereafter, asking kids to remain away from campus. Yet requiring even out of season athletes to stay a keep working out. Kind of shocking they value the student athlete safety less than the average student. Maybe that stance will change.

I can just imagine all those kids coming to Daytona Beach from all over, and then infecting each other, then of course returning home. Literally like shit hitting the fan.

I've got a place in Daytona Beach Shores and I'm heading down on Good Friday. :doh: Forgot about infected urchins.

 

[Hamdonger]

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JMO. Got to hand it to those bowing out, though. That is a whale ton of revenue. Which I suppose gives the reaction to all of this some credibility.

BTW. China has been absolutely demolished, right? Is anyone still alive there?? Dang, I really liked that Olympic hurdler.

'dinger you're usually a voice of reason here. This isn't one of your better takes.

I understand you having that point of view and don't blame you one bit. 222 put up that fantastic link. I encourage you to check it out. And I do realize "they"...whoever "they" is...are trying to avoid a surge and reduce a peak in the POTENTIAL spread of the disease. But the reaction is an overreaction. My opinion is you have to step outside of this and look at it from the outside in...as objectively as possible and remove emotion from equation. Both tough if not impossible to do. But when I personally do I see more to this than just the virus itself.

I'll give you 2 stats...well, 3, from the live coronavirus update site.
1. Originated in China. China's new cases are now trending down...substantially. China's overall TOTAL case rate currently stands at 56 people infected for every 1M in population.
2. Italy. They appear to have been hit the hardest and they have the highest infection rate, worldwide, per million in population. The number of TOTAL cases stands at 250 individuals infected per 1Million in population. (Hek, a former Redbird staffer's granddaughter is in self-quarantine locally after returning from one of these areas)

There's NO doubt this virus is more lethal. I get it. However, those numbers...no exaggeration...are akin to a few grains of rice inside an average box of Minute Rice. Let that sink in for a sec...and now consider and compare that to the astonishing number of cancellations (and reactionary behavior) that are happening by the minute, in all areas of our lives.

*I do realize people are carrying the virus and haven't been diagnosed and may...or not ever...be diagnosed. But I don't believe for a second that it's an astonishing number.

Now...on to MERKEL and Germany. Merkel, Chancellor of Germany, stated publicly a few days ago that she anticipated and would expect up to 70% of Germans could/would eventually be infected by this CoVid19. Germany's current numbers:
2,745 TOTAL cases. (6 total deaths) Germany's population. 83MILLION!! So according to her blessed logic, another 58Million people are gonna be up to bat. That is a RIDUCULOUS MASS FRENZIED statement. It's irresponsible and creates frenzy. One of the leaders of a free world country. Frenzy.

Let's look at age data briefly, as of today:
No fatalities 0-9yrs of age.
Highest risk category BY FAR is the 80plus age group...nearly double the risk rate of anyone. 70-79 is the second highest risk factor. 60-69 is the 3rd highest, 50-59 is the fourth highest, and from there you're not too far out of range from typical flu responses.

You can break these down into deeper categories. And folks, OBVIOUSLY common sense comes into play. My ex-wife and great Mom to our kids - has a Downs Syndrome child and the wonderful little rascal is about 3 yrs old. They HAVE to be cautious with him. He will always be immuno-suppressed. He is at much higher risk than the average member of the modern world. When his siblings get sick, there is a mini-quarantine that takes place in their household. Has to be that way!

If you're older, be more cautious. If you're immuno-suppressed, take extra precaution. Coming off a cancer battle or surgery or sickness, take extra precaution. We all can come up with many more examples.

Common sense will go a long way. Forget sanitizer, SOAP AND WATER will go a long way in this trip. Sounds STUPID i know, and I realize this is a VIRAL entity of the 'demic category that can pose deadly consequences...but nevertheless, it's most effective other than taking a bath in straight bleach.

I encourage everyone to take caution and get yourself educated. This is my opinion solely - not anyone else's. But i do believe an overreaction is absolutely in play.

30 years ago this freak out doesn't happen. With the speed of communication in our current times, the media (professional and social) perhaps unintentionally fuels the frenzy. It cannot be denied.

And...the table is being set for our future behavior. Think about that. Our responses are being conditioned. Think about that. Don't get trapped in the herd. You have a free mind and a beating heart. Use them to come to your own conclusions, and not necessarily what the 98 out of 100 are telling you.

Also, buyer beware. One silly rumor combined with how fast information, factual or not, travels -
could completely tank our society as we know it - in a matter of days or even less. You'd better know what you stand for. Only thing that really matters is relationships, buddy. And most of what we (actually, I) argue/debate about here is just freakin stupid in the long run.

The end.

Oh yeah. Basketball thread. Thanks Muller.

 

[Hamdonger]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
(credit to 222)

 

[Bird Friend]

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JMO. Got to hand it to those bowing out, though. That is a whale ton of revenue. Which I suppose gives the reaction to all of this some credibility.

BTW. China has been absolutely demolished, right? Is anyone still alive there?? Dang, I really liked that Olympic hurdler.

'dinger you're usually a voice of reason here. This isn't one of your better takes.

My opinion is you have to step outside of this and look at it from the outside in...as objectively as possible and remove emotion from equation.

Hamdonger, are you a health professional? Are you an expert on epidemics and pandemics? Are you an expert on communicable disease?

No? Thought not.

Luv ya, buddy, but on this topic it's time to give it a rest. There are people who are lot more qualified, have much broader and deeper data, and know a hell of lot more about it than you do . . . and these are their recommendations.

 

[Hamdonger]

Fundamentally I don't necessarily disagree. And NO I'm not an expert. But I'm having experts in the field, including infectious disease people leading hospitals, and a close cousin who is the CEO of an organization of well over 100 doctors - telling me to look deeper - and I am. While taking caution.

Heed Birdie's advice...while taking a deeper look.

 

[Hamdonger]

Fundamentally I don't necessarily disagree. And NO I'm not an expert. But I'm having experts in the field, including infectious disease people leading hospitals, and a close cousin who is the CEO of an organization of well over 100 doctors - telling me to look deeper - and I am. While taking caution.

Heed Birdie's advice...while taking a deeper look.

 

[Hamdonger]

You know what, BirdFriend? It just occurred to me. You returned from overseas. Perhaps not the forum to ask but forgive me, I will. Are you good? Is all well? Sincere question.

 

[Bird Friend]

You know what, BirdFriend? It just occurred to me. You returned from overseas. Perhaps not the forum to ask but forgive me, I will. Are you good? Is all well? Sincere question.

I'm well (and so is my wife), thanks for asking. My pups on the other hand both have kennel cough.

FWIW, bucket list items of visiting Australia and New Zealand have been checked off, and both exceeded expectations. Given a chance we'd go back to NZ in a heartbeat. Beautiful country and people. We were very fortunate to be able to make the trip.

 

[JHBird]

You know what, BirdFriend? It just occurred to me. You returned from overseas. Perhaps not the forum to ask but forgive me, I will. Are you good? Is all well? Sincere question.

I'm well (and so is my wife), thanks for asking. My pups on the other hand both have kennel cough.

FWIW, bucket list items of visiting Australia and New Zealand have been checked off, and both exceeded expectations. Given a chance we'd go back to NZ in a heartbeat. Beautiful country and people. We were very fortunate to be able to make the trip.

I took a three week trip there (NZ) in my younger days back in the early 90's. That place has got it all, rolling green hills, glaciers, fjords; the south island was truly spectacular.
Oh well, back to basketball. Somebody heard a rumor that seniors might be given an extra year of eligibility by the NCAA? I hope not. I don't think that helps us much. I'd rather see Bradley lose D. Brown then us keep Copeland. Our senior class wasn't that great compared to other schools.

 

[isuquinndog]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
(credit to 222)

After winning 13 games, the Big Ten earned 21 units, which warranted a $35 million payout. Overall, the Big Ten reportedly distributed $759 million to its member schools last year. The Big Ten and other Power 5 leagues won't take a substantial hit, if the cancellations mean the schools and leagues don't get paid under these unique circumstances, but the non-Power 5 schools could be dramatically affected by this.

Think about a league like the Missouri Valley Conference. In 2018, Loyola Chicago made $8.45 million (paid out over a six-year stretch) for its league (the units stop once a team reaches the Final Four). That's an average of $845,000 overall for each of the 10 schools in the Missouri Valley Conference. Take a school such as Illinois State. That $845,000 represents about 10% of Illinois State's $9 million budget for men's athletics, per Department of Education data. That money can change these programs.

 

[isuquinndog]

What we know and don't know after NCAA tournament cancellations http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28893468/what-know-know-ncaa-tournament-cancellations
via @ESPN App http://espn.com/app

We get mentioned as an example on revenue impact for cancelling games

After winning 13 games, the Big Ten earned 21 units, which warranted a $35 million payout. Overall, the Big Ten reportedly distributed $759 million to its member schools last year. The Big Ten and other Power 5 leagues won't take a substantial hit, if the cancellations mean the schools and leagues don't get paid under these unique circumstances, but the non-Power 5 schools could be dramatically affected by this.

Think about a league like the Missouri Valley Conference. In 2018, Loyola Chicago made $8.45 million (paid out over a six-year stretch) for its league (the units stop once a team reaches the Final Four). That's an average of $845,000 overall for each of the 10 schools in the Missouri Valley Conference. Take a school such as Illinois State. That $845,000 represents about 10% of Illinois State's $9 million budget for men's athletics, per Department of Education data. That money can change these programs.

 

[isuquinndog]

Careful about political posts please. We all have enough to deal with, I don't want to deal with that too.