N.I.T.?

[Bird Friend]

https://twitter.com/AndyGlockner/status/969688635472715777?s=20

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Rpi isn’t dead. It’s on every team sheet as the first performances based metric.
Also the quadrants....are all records based on rpi.

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[Hamdonger]

You can throw stats at me all day long, and you're not necessarily wrong. You're probably right.

But 13 out of 18 wins in B10 play ought to get you an invite to The Dance. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Ticks me off when sub-.500 conf teams or even .500 teams get in over a good midmajor. Not 13-5, though. They deserve to be in.

 

[SgtHulka]

You can throw stats at me all day long, and you're not necessarily wrong. You're probably right.

But 13 out of 18 wins in B10 play ought to get you an invite to The Dance. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Ticks me off when sub-.500 conf teams or even .500 teams get in over a good midmajor. Not 13-5, though. They deserve to be in.

Lost AT Illinois. That's a resume killer.

I remember years ago on the PJ board, after we beat Penn St the illini fans were like "big woop". My response was that when you come at us at the end of the season touting that resume for an 10-8 program in the rough and tumble big 10 as being worthy, I'll remind you that at least 4 of the 10 came against big woops.

 

[Hamdonger]

All good arguments, pretty dang valid! Still seems wrong to me, though. Might be the only person here who sees it that way.

Curious. Has there ever been a Power Conference team, with a 72% winning percentage in conference play, who did NOT get in The Tourney??

I really don't know but I'd bet the odds are quite in favor of no - hasn't happened.

 

[cpacmel]

You can throw stats at me all day long, and you're not necessarily wrong. You're probably right.

But 13 out of 18 wins in B10 play ought to get you an invite to The Dance. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Ticks me off when sub-.500 conf teams or even .500 teams get in over a good midmajor. Not 13-5, though. They deserve to be in.

I do like to throw stats. Multiple ones.

Your only stat has been 13-5 in big ten play. That’s called cherry picking!

It’s like their 273 non conf sos doesn’t even exist. Whoops another stat. :shock:

Don’t worry when push comes to shove they will probably get in over Boise State or someone else that’s much more deserving .

 

[Hamdonger]

Your only stat has been 13-5 in big ten play.

Yup!

I'm FOR the midmajor. I think the bowdown to the P5's is BAD for the magic of The Dance. But in this case, my eyes can't leave 13 wins in a year in year out competitive P5conference.

Nebraska, more or less, is a midmajor basketball program in a Power conference. None of the experts will admit that but no one takes Nebraska serious. They're not considered amongst the elite, therefore IMO they are more apt to be treated - and are treated - AS a midmajor. 13 wins doesn't mean squat! They're not elite!! (Like us last year, for example) That's really my point.

But again, it's their fault. They should have went 18-0.

Have a great day, peeps.

 

[DWRedbird]

Your only stat has been 13-5 in big ten play.

Yup!

I'm FOR the midmajor. I think the bowdown to the P5's is BAD for the magic of The Dance. But in this case, my eyes can't leave 13 wins in a year in year out competitive P5conference.

Nebraska, more or less, is a midmajor basketball program in a Power conference. None of the experts will admit that but no one takes Nebraska serious. They're not considered amongst the elite, therefore IMO they are more apt to be treated - and are treated - AS a midmajor. 13 wins doesn't mean squat! They're not elite!! (Like us last year, for example) That's really my point.

But again, it's their fault. They should have went 18-0.

Have a great day, peeps.

The Big 10 wasn't really that competitive honestly. They were extremely top heavy, and once you get out of the top 4 teams, the rest really haven't done anything spectacular. That said, I will agree with you that I think Nebraska should be in consideration for an at large before a team like Texas...

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Jay Bilias said during the Iona game that RPI is dead.

Unless it helps an ACC team...

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Jay Bilias said during the Iona game that RPI is dead.

Bilas also said all at large berths should have been determined on Sunday, before the P5 conf tourney's start (less B1G of course.)

His reasoning is that P5s should be allowed to polish resumes in conf tourneys while non P5s essentially have no chance to do so.

By that logic, all regular season conference play should NOT be considered.

But this was Jay Bilas, NOT this Bilias character you are quoting. :lol:

Bilas is an ESPN guy, so by default, he's a BPI over RPI guy.

 

[CaliRdBrd]

Yeah, it really is IMO. Certainly within midmajor realm. But here's the deal. Somebody catches a break. Somebody gets screwed.

Here's a crazy deal. Nebraska went 13-and-freaking-5 in the Big10 and some gurus are saying they're on the bubble. That is mind-boggling to me.

130 brackets on bracket matrix. 4 have Nebraska in.

They simply didn't play anyone in the non-conf.

Yup I realize that but a 72.2% winning percentage in B10 play doesn't carry any weight?

While they did beat Michigan, it's not as impressive when you realize they basically beat up on the bottom feeders (Minn, Rutgers, Illinois, Iowa, etc)

 

[ISU FAN 1]

You can throw stats at me all day long, and you're not necessarily wrong. You're probably right.

But 13 out of 18 wins in B10 play ought to get you an invite to The Dance. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Ticks me off when sub-.500 conf teams or even .500 teams get in over a good midmajor. Not 13-5, though. They deserve to be in.

Lost AT Illinois. That's a resume killer.

I remember years ago on the PJ board, after we beat Penn St the illini fans were like "big woop". My response was that when you come at us at the end of the season touting that resume for an 10-8 program in the rough and tumble big 10 as being worthy, I'll remind you that at least 4 of the 10 came against big woops.

It delights me that losing to the Illini can kill a teams NCAA hopes.

 

[cpacmel]

Nebraska, more or less, is a midmajor basketball program in a Power conference. None of the experts will admit that but no one takes Nebraska serious. They're not considered amongst the elite, therefore IMO they are more apt to be treated - and are treated - AS a midmajor. 13 wins doesn't mean squat! They're not elite!! (Like us last year, for example) That's really my point.

Let's just sort thru some of this noise right here. Lots of mid-major programs playing in $180 mil arena's that seat 15K? Lots of mid-major programs paying their coaches 2 mil a year too?

Is Northwestern Elite? They got in with 10 Big Ten wins last year. Of course their schedule was light years better than Nebraska's was (49 to 270's). Can't just cherry pick one stat, such as conference record. I think you know that from following basketball all these years...

I think in the history of the Big Ten only 2 teams that won 11 or more conference games didn't dance. So it's not like it's the end all to dancing.

But again, it's their fault. They should have went 18-0.

They made their schedule. It's not like they are hurting to find games. Maybe EIU, North Dakota, and North Dakota were too many cupcakes.

RPI Group 1: they are 1-6. 7 chances to prove themselves against the so-called elite.

 

[Adunk33]

Jay Bilias said during the Iona game that RPI is dead.

I watched the first few minutes of that game and I've never heard a broadcaster seem so disappointed or unenthusiastic about a game. He seemed pretty pissed about calling the MAAC Championship.

 

[MadBird]

I will say this tho, in person Copeland, Palmer, and Roby were a handful. Watson's pretty okay, the big boy Tshimanga too. Beat Michigan by 20. Lost by one to Kansas (who ended up not being world beaters this year).

I think they're correctly on the bubble, a case can be made either way. I agree "the rest of us" are held to a higher standard.

Not a Tim Miles fan, but I've always liked asst. coach Molinari.

 

[Bdub777]

Jay Bilias said during the Iona game that RPI is dead.

Unless it helps an ACC team...

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