MVC Championship Sunday

[Baltimore Bird]

Well that just adds more salt to the wound. A basic 100 level class at ISU says to root against Bradley. That had always worked until last year. This really sucks! It is the worst possible ending to a miserable MVC season.

 

[jamminjamarsmiley]

The isu fans continue to interact with D brown on twitter and he told the “losers” to quit tagging him. Redbird twitter at its finest!!!

 

[Seven]

Look good to who? Nobody’s watching except fans of mediocre mid major basketball.

2018 MVC Final was 6th of 32 championship games in tv ratings. 6th of 32.

 

[gobirds85]

Also, Dave Snell listing off all the programs at Bradley that are winning now. Sadly, volleyball and baseball are only programs we are ahead of than Bradley.

What about our bass fishin’ team?

 

[WoodlandWarrior]

Our Delta Zeta sorority girls were hotter than theirs, at least in the early seventies.

 

[jamminjamarsmiley]

Look good to who? Nobody’s watching except fans of mediocre mid major basketball.

2018 MVC Final was 6th of 32 championship games in tv ratings. 6th of 32.

Link??

 

[ISU FAN 1]

Look good to who? Nobody’s watching except fans of mediocre mid major basketball.

2018 MVC Final was 6th of 32 championship games in tv ratings. 6th of 32.

What’s 2018 have to do with today? Chicago market with Loyola involved juiced those numbers. Average fans were, not interested.

 

[isuquinndog]

Look good to who? Nobody’s watching except fans of mediocre mid major basketball.

2018 MVC Final was 6th of 32 championship games in tv ratings. 6th of 32.

What’s 2018 have to do with today? Chicago market with Loyola involved juiced those numbers. Average fans were, not interested.

The Loyola fan base is big enough to do that? I doubt it.

 

[ISUBU]

As Joe Biden would say, “Here’s the deal”. Five years ago Bradley was playing guys like Callum Barker, Lautier- Ogunleye, Jayden Hodgson, Ronnie Suggs, et al and they were a joke of a team. But damn it, Wardle has turned the program around and there is no denying his two consecutive trips to the NCAA Tournament. Conversely, we are going nowhere other than downhill.

The frustration has boiled over. How did we get so bad on Muller’s Watch the past three years? It’s one thing to be competitive with an arch rival. But it’s something totally different to see them enjoy success while we are mired in a swamp of mediocrity.

ISU has been in the tough position of being mediocre - not great, but not terrible. That tempts coaches to try to plug holes and add players to put the team over the top. Unfortunately, the additions brought in weren't enough, and success has eluded us.

BU basketball had fallen to its lowest point competitively. That makes it much easier to go to the big rebuild. Those players you mentioned were part of a team that for two years was the youngest in the NCAA. They were bad. Wardle and staff brought in a bunch of freshmen, knowing that a few probably didn't have average Division I talent. They didn't look to transfers. The administration and staff were committed to a rebuild knowing that they were going to lose a lot of games. But they stuck with the plan and have seen the program improve year by year. Some players improved a lot (Lautier-Ogunleye), others departed as more talent came in (Barker). It was apparent that the team was developing and improving.

Should ISU commit to a rebuild with freshmen, knowing that there will be a lot of losses? It takes a patient administration and fan base to allow that.

 

[redbirdfan04]

Look good to who? Nobody’s watching except fans of mediocre mid major basketball.

2018 MVC Final was 6th of 32 championship games in tv ratings. 6th of 32.

Link??

I just looked all over and could not find any information on conference tournament tv ratings. They had tickets sold which we all know is not butts in the seats. I am not saying I dont believe you but I would like to see that link also.

 

[ricohill]

As Joe Biden would say, “Here’s the deal”. Five years ago Bradley was playing guys like Callum Barker, Lautier- Ogunleye, Jayden Hodgson, Ronnie Suggs, et al and they were a joke of a team. But damn it, Wardle has turned the program around and there is no denying his two consecutive trips to the NCAA Tournament. Conversely, we are going nowhere other than downhill.

The frustration has boiled over. How did we get so bad on Muller’s Watch the past three years? It’s one thing to be competitive with an arch rival. But it’s something totally different to see them enjoy success while we are mired in a swamp of mediocrity.

ISU has been in the tough position of being mediocre - not great, but not terrible. That tempts coaches to try to plug holes and add players to put the team over the top. Unfortunately, the additions brought in weren't enough, and success has eluded us.

BU basketball had fallen to its lowest point competitively. That makes it much easier to go to the big rebuild. Those players you mentioned were part of a team that for two years was the youngest in the NCAA. They were bad. Wardle and staff brought in a bunch of freshmen, knowing that a few probably didn't have average Division I talent. They didn't look to transfers. The administration and staff were committed to a rebuild knowing that they were going to lose a lot of games. But they stuck with the plan and have seen the program improve year by year. Some players improved a lot (Lautier-Ogunleye), others departed as more talent came in (Barker). It was apparent that the team was developing and improving.

Should ISU commit to a rebuild with freshmen, knowing that there will be a lot of losses? It takes a patient administration and fan base to allow that.

We pretty much are in a full rebuild right now. We had the most talented team in the league in 2016-17, 17-18, and 18-19. In normal circumstances where in at least 2 of those 3 years you go to the NCAA Tournament like you should, a rebuild like this isn't a big deal. You figure in 2-3 years you make another run.

What makes it complicated is next year is year 9 for Muller. Do you go through the rebuild with him or someone else? I don't think we will be good enough to win the league next year with all the players other teams bring back. Basically, all the eggs are in the basket for 2021-22 and year 10 for Muller.

 

[Seven]

http://mvcfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4907&hilit=tv+ratings

1) ACC 3.435 M
2) B1G 3.180 M
3) BXII 2.852 M
4) SEC 2.553 M
5) AAC 2.091 M
6) MVC 1.765 M
7) MWC 1.587 M
8) BE 1.491 M
9) A10 1.349 M
10) WCC 877k
11) PAC 612k

 

[ISU FAN 1]

2018 MVC Final was 6th of 32 championship games in tv ratings. 6th of 32.

What’s 2018 have to do with today? Chicago market with Loyola involved juiced those numbers. Average fans were, not interested.

The Loyola fan base is big enough to do that? I doubt it.

Not just Loyola fans, Chicagoland market.

 

[ISU FAN 1]

As Joe Biden would say, “Here’s the deal”. Five years ago Bradley was playing guys like Callum Barker, Lautier- Ogunleye, Jayden Hodgson, Ronnie Suggs, et al and they were a joke of a team. But damn it, Wardle has turned the program around and there is no denying his two consecutive trips to the NCAA Tournament. Conversely, we are going nowhere other than downhill.

The frustration has boiled over. How did we get so bad on Muller’s Watch the past three years? It’s one thing to be competitive with an arch rival. But it’s something totally different to see them enjoy success while we are mired in a swamp of mediocrity.

ISU has been in the tough position of being mediocre - not great, but not terrible. That tempts coaches to try to plug holes and add players to put the team over the top. Unfortunately, the additions brought in weren't enough, and success has eluded us.

BU basketball had fallen to its lowest point competitively. That makes it much easier to go to the big rebuild. Those players you mentioned were part of a team that for two years was the youngest in the NCAA. They were bad. Wardle and staff brought in a bunch of freshmen, knowing that a few probably didn't have average Division I talent. They didn't look to transfers. The administration and staff were committed to a rebuild knowing that they were going to lose a lot of games. But they stuck with the plan and have seen the program improve year by year. Some players improved a lot (Lautier-Ogunleye), others departed as more talent came in (Barker). It was apparent that the team was developing and improving.

Should ISU commit to a rebuild with freshmen, knowing that there will be a lot of losses? It takes a patient administration and fan base to allow that.

We pretty much are in a full rebuild right now. We had the most talented team in the league in 2016-17, 17-18, and 18-19. In normal circumstances where in at least 2 of those 3 years you go to the NCAA Tournament like you should, a rebuild like this isn't a big deal. You figure in 2-3 years you make another run.

What makes it complicated is next year is year 9 for Muller. Do you go through the rebuild with him or someone else? I don't think we will be good enough to win the league next year with all the players other teams bring back. Basically, all the eggs are in the basket for 2021-22 and year 10 for Muller.

If a good recruit looks at Muller’s 8 year track record, what motivation would he possibly have to come here? Dan may have too much stink on him to turn this around. He’s heading into year 9 of running a failing program, with the arrow currently pointing down.

 

[Redbird222]

ISU has been in the tough position of being mediocre - not great, but not terrible. That tempts coaches to try to plug holes and add players to put the team over the top. Unfortunately, the additions brought in weren't enough, and success has eluded us.

BU basketball had fallen to its lowest point competitively. That makes it much easier to go to the big rebuild. Those players you mentioned were part of a team that for two years was the youngest in the NCAA. They were bad. Wardle and staff brought in a bunch of freshmen, knowing that a few probably didn't have average Division I talent. They didn't look to transfers. The administration and staff were committed to a rebuild knowing that they were going to lose a lot of games. But they stuck with the plan and have seen the program improve year by year. Some players improved a lot (Lautier-Ogunleye), others departed as more talent came in (Barker). It was apparent that the team was developing and improving.

Should ISU commit to a rebuild with freshmen, knowing that there will be a lot of losses? It takes a patient administration and fan base to allow that.

We pretty much are in a full rebuild right now. We had the most talented team in the league in 2016-17, 17-18, and 18-19. In normal circumstances where in at least 2 of those 3 years you go to the NCAA Tournament like you should, a rebuild like this isn't a big deal. You figure in 2-3 years you make another run.

What makes it complicated is next year is year 9 for Muller. Do you go through the rebuild with him or someone else? I don't think we will be good enough to win the league next year with all the players other teams bring back. Basically, all the eggs are in the basket for 2021-22 and year 10 for Muller.

If a good recruit looks at Muller’s 8 year track record, what motivation would he possibly have to come here? Dan may have too much stink on him to turn this around. He’s heading into year 9 of running a failing program, with the arrow currently pointing down.

He has had a good percentage play pro ball overseas and the seniors graduate. I am sure that could be part of the pitch. It may not be as applicable now but we made the championship game 3 of 4 years so come help us get over the top. Hell , we are still only two years removed the championship game so you could spin it right. How about come here and you will get plenty of playing time right away.

 

[SgtHulka]

We pretty much are in a full rebuild right now. We had the most talented team in the league in 2016-17, 17-18, and 18-19. In normal circumstances where in at least 2 of those 3 years you go to the NCAA Tournament like you should, a rebuild like this isn't a big deal. You figure in 2-3 years you make another run.

What makes it complicated is next year is year 9 for Muller. Do you go through the rebuild with him or someone else? I don't think we will be good enough to win the league next year with all the players other teams bring back. Basically, all the eggs are in the basket for 2021-22 and year 10 for Muller.

If a good recruit looks at Muller’s 8 year track record, what motivation would he possibly have to come here? Dan may have too much stink on him to turn this around. He’s heading into year 9 of running a failing program, with the arrow currently pointing down.

He has had a good percentage play pro ball overseas and the seniors graduate. I am sure that could be part of the pitch. It may not be as applicable now but we made the championship game 3 of 4 years so come help us get over the top. Hell , we are still only two years removed the championship game so you could spin it right. How about come here and you will get plenty of playing time right away.

:text-+1:

 

[Tpguy]

Next year they'll tune in to watch our 6'10 JUCO player