Let's talk bu @ Illinois State

[ricohill]

Sometimes you make shots, sometimes you don't. However, 12 turnovers in the 2nd half and overtime is unacceptable. The last shot wouldn't have been an issue if we take care of the ball.

 

[SgtHulka]

Copeland was 3-19 tonight from the field and I think 2-11 from 3. Why does it have to be him shooting the three in a close game? I’ll take my chances with Horne or Reeves or Bruninga. Bradley had 19 offensive rebounds tonight. 19! Another game where we blow a lead and lose.

Copeland makes Osiris look like Mr. Clutch.

3 free throws to get us in overtime was pretty clutch.

:text-+1:

 

[CaliRdBrd]

At first I didn't get Copeland taking the shots at the end with a such a bad shooting night. The problem is everyone had an awful shooting night from three except for Fisher. It's not like there is a good option at the end of the game.

Reeves may have been off, but fundamentally looks pretty good. Copeland seemed to throw up the ball in any way he could. Yes, he hit 3 clutch FTs. But there were a lot of turnovers and questionable shots that led to Bradley getting back in the game. One of his made 3's, you could tell Dan was ready to chew him out but it was an off-balance 3 that went in.

Copeland is going to take these shots, and there is nothing, short of benching him, that is going to change that. Maybe he gets hot in StL and we can win 1-2 games somehow. This team is going to have to be near perfect though to win 4 in 4 days. At least we are a lot deeper than we have been, especially if Chastain is back and can step into 10-12 minutes a game. However, if Ndiaye is averaging a foul per minute, our post depth will get thinner real quick.

I’m sure I’m in the minority, but if we somehow win in the Lou to make the NCAA, that does not change the fact that this season is an absolute disaster.

 

[ISU86]

outshot by 22 attempts from the field - surprised it even made it to overtime.

Turnovers, offensive rebounding (second chance points) and points in the paint were not in our favor.

Dan's teams, especially in recent times, seem to be exceedingly careless/reckless with the basketball.

And there was zero storyline I could envision that contained Koch Bar ending up with double digits.

As an observational note, much like others view Gerry Pollard, I have a similar feeling when Randy Heimerman now officitates one of our games. There always seems to be at least one technical called (and we generally lose <insert W-L jokes here>). Much like coaches and players, there are certain styles of play that fit or don't with a given roster. What Heimerman looks for/calls does not align with the style of play Dan coaches <again, insert joke here>.

I saw him doing Drake-Loyola Tuesday night, and wondered if he would be making the (relatively) short drive south on I-55. He would.

Not saying he is good/bad official, just pondering.

 

[Loyl2u]

Here is the +/- from Bradley #2-

What I see is that playing the two stretch 4s together is risky, dependent upon the matchups. Generally safer and consistent production with one Stretch 4(Fisher/Bruninga) and one of either Rey/Abdou. Play Hillsman in the 3 spot( which has went from large part of non-conference wins to virtually no minutes).
If the Redbirds really wanted to create a different look for the the tourney, how about something that plays a big and Rotating two stretch 4’s(including Hillsman) and then rotate your guard combinations of Horne/Reeves and Torres/Copeland??

1st half 10:23 2F/3G, 2nd half 7:34 2F/3G, OT. Zero minutes 2F/3G

 

[Reggie Redbird]

outshot by 22 attempts from the field - surprised it even made it to overtime.

Turnovers, offensive rebounding (second chance points) and points in the paint were not in our favor.

Dan's teams, especially in recent times, seem to be exceedingly careless/reckless with the basketball.

And there was zero storyline I could envision that contained Koch Bar ending up with double digits.

As an observational note, much like others view Gerry Pollard, I have a similar feeling when Randy Heimerman now officitates one of our games. There always seems to be at least one technical called (and we generally lose <insert W-L jokes here>). Much like coaches and players, there are certain styles of play that fit or don't with a given roster. What Heimerman looks for/calls does not align with the style of play Dan coaches <again, insert joke here>.

I saw him doing Drake-Loyola Tuesday night, and wondered if he would be making the (relatively) short drive south on I-55. He would.

Not saying he is good/bad official, just pondering.

Heimerman is far from my favorite official. However, he was the better one on the floor last night. I believe both T’s were called by the same official who was constantly drawing the ire of both Muller and Wardle.

When Bradley’s posts got deeper into foul trouble, they started calling a looser game under the hoop. That didn’t mean they stopped calling fouls though. We just abandoned going into the post for 3s at moments that did not make sense for them. Copeland going wildly into the lane when he did take it in didn’t help matters. We had success with Fisher down low and then abandoned it.

I agree 100% that the last 3 years we seem extremely careless with the ball. I was surprised we didn’t see Rey or Donnelly more.

 

[RBFANTOO]

Turnovers:
ISU 19
BU 9

Offensive Rebounds:
ISU 10
BU 19

That's the ball game!

 

[TheTruth]

Turnovers:
ISU 19
BU 9

Offensive Rebounds:
ISU 10
BU 19

That's the ball game!

That's the season..........it's time for change.

 

[Loyl2u]

outshot by 22 attempts from the field - surprised it even made it to overtime.

Turnovers, offensive rebounding (second chance points) and points in the paint were not in our favor.

Dan's teams, especially in recent times, seem to be exceedingly careless/reckless with the basketball.

And there was zero storyline I could envision that contained Koch Bar ending up with double digits.

As an observational note, much like others view Gerry Pollard, I have a similar feeling when Randy Heimerman now officitates one of our games. There always seems to be at least one technical called (and we generally lose <insert W-L jokes here>). Much like coaches and players, there are certain styles of play that fit or don't with a given roster. What Heimerman looks for/calls does not align with the style of play Dan coaches <again, insert joke here>.

I saw him doing Drake-Loyola Tuesday night, and wondered if he would be making the (relatively) short drive south on I-55. He would.

Not saying he is good/bad official, just pondering.

Heimerman is far from my favorite official. However, he was the better one on the floor last night. I believe both T’s were called by the same official who was constantly drawing the ire of both Muller and Wardle.

When Bradley’s posts got deeper into foul trouble, they started calling a looser game under the hoop. That didn’t mean they stopped calling fouls though. We just abandoned going into the post for 3s at moments that did not make sense for them. Copeland going wildly into the lane when he did take it in didn’t help matters. We had success with Fisher down low and then abandoned it.

I agree 100% that the last 3 years we seem extremely careless with the ball. I was surprised we didn’t see Rey or Donnelly more.

Good summation of officiating and flow of the game.

I generally think both Heimerman and Smith do a good job. The other guy who called the Ts looked familiar, but I haven’t seen him much before. At least it wasn’t the bottom of the barrel weekend crews, which are clearly assigned based upon the perceived competitiveness and ranking of teams within the conference. We haven’t seen many good crews this season.

 

[redblood]

Very tough as we looked like the better team most of this game. Was good to see us battle back after blowing a big lead but once again just didn’t do enough. The turnovers, missed free throw and bad shot by reeves in OT really did us in.

Positive, fisher was a beast, Bradley has a strong front court and he looked like the best of them all. Too bad we got away from him in second half.

Bad shot by Reeves??? Good lord Copeland took about a dozen, yet he never gets pulled. What a joke, him and Muller deserve each other.

 

[Chicagobirdfan]

Very tough as we looked like the better team most of this game. Was good to see us battle back after blowing a big lead but once again just didn’t do enough. The turnovers, missed free throw and bad shot by reeves in OT really did us in.

Positive, fisher was a beast, Bradley has a strong front court and he looked like the best of them all. Too bad we got away from him in second half.

Bad shot by Reeves??? Good lord Copeland took about a dozen, yet he never gets pulled. What a joke, him and Muller deserve each other.

Yes, I’m used to that by now.

 

[redblood]

Good point, my bad