SgtHulka
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He should get his own thread like all other new players. I don't think I am the one to do it.
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Why not? Pretty sure cpacmel won’t mind.
Critical year for Pedon.
Fortunately for him many of the Valleys top players left via portal. The transfers he’s bringing in feel like role/bench players and he’s building around the high school kids he brought in and is bringing in.
When you look at the roster though it feels low-major athleticism and talent.
Fortunately for him many of the Valleys top players left via portal. The transfers he’s bringing in feel like role/bench players and he’s building around the high school kids he brought in and is bringing in.
When you look at the roster though it feels low-major athleticism and talent.
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Ben Humrichous did average like 12.8ppg at a D2/NAIA school go to Evansville and put up 14.7ppg so maybe it could happen
The problem is its extremely difficult, and even less realistic anymore, to build around incoming freshmen/underclassmen because you can't expect them (or anyone) to stay. One more strong year from Johnny and he'll be gone. A decent year from Chase and he'll be gone. If Ty figures it out, he'll be gone too. Building isn't an option anymore. It's buy-a-season. And if we want to buy .500, we're right there.
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Well, I wonder if it ISN'T best to build as best as you can around HS guys, at least you can get a couple-three years out of them before they go? Then use the 1-2 year portals to fill in the blanks. You know what I'm saying? Johnny and Chase give us a couple good years, move on, and then Caden and Jack are featured.
And it's not just ISU/MVC etc. getting bit in the butt - Wisconsin's losing Storr and Hepburn, it's two best players for really no good reason other than the almighty dollar. Duke's lost a bunch. Etc. Nobody nowhere is safe! It's the JUCO model now and for the foreseeable future, apparently.
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Has anyone heard, will another roster player opt to enter Portal as deadline approaches?
We sure could use a monster on the boards.
We sure could use a monster on the boards.
Jesus, come back to read this thread on Monday morning. Guess I'll go jump off a building.
No kidding!!
A baseball analogy could be made of the current NIL, free agency portal, and the now professional feel of division one college basketball. There are teams like Memphis with the FedX money that can now go about this like the NewYork Yankees. Doesn’t mean they win it all but they will drive up the cost of good employees. Yes the “college” players are now self employed free agents collecting money while playing a sport for a college or university. There will be lots of teams that will have differing levels of NIL and success. And then there are Oakland A teams. Appears to me lots of MVC teams fit that description. Not located in a major market area for advertising and no T Boone Pickens to write the checks as an alum or fan.
I also believe going forward the level of NIL a university fan base can raise will play into conference realignment. If the college team is unable to raise the money to put a good team on the floor why would other schools allow them to drag a conference down. It is now a whole new ballgame and hopefully your first baseman that used to be a catcher can now play another position really well. I think as fans we need to let this season play out and see how ISU athletic management handles this new professional sports world we are in. I also think if ISU doesn’t improve wins and losses very soon we may end up a double a team that is not a feeder up school but a place where ball players that couldn’t cut it in the show come back to play at a level they can play at, and at a price ISU fans can afford.
There will be schools that can raise the money and will be successful and there may be some bigger programs that will struggle in this new world college athletics are in. Lots of players will be “show me the money” and they also will be influenced by agents, investors, lawyers, families, friends and people that just hang around for the ride. Plus all the other type of “influencers” that will be enticing these young athletes that just fell into lots of money. Be ready for the ride because professional college sports are going to be a lot different than it was the last ten years. I just hope the powers that be at ISU realize how much the world of college sports has changed.
I also believe going forward the level of NIL a university fan base can raise will play into conference realignment. If the college team is unable to raise the money to put a good team on the floor why would other schools allow them to drag a conference down. It is now a whole new ballgame and hopefully your first baseman that used to be a catcher can now play another position really well. I think as fans we need to let this season play out and see how ISU athletic management handles this new professional sports world we are in. I also think if ISU doesn’t improve wins and losses very soon we may end up a double a team that is not a feeder up school but a place where ball players that couldn’t cut it in the show come back to play at a level they can play at, and at a price ISU fans can afford.
There will be schools that can raise the money and will be successful and there may be some bigger programs that will struggle in this new world college athletics are in. Lots of players will be “show me the money” and they also will be influenced by agents, investors, lawyers, families, friends and people that just hang around for the ride. Plus all the other type of “influencers” that will be enticing these young athletes that just fell into lots of money. Be ready for the ride because professional college sports are going to be a lot different than it was the last ten years. I just hope the powers that be at ISU realize how much the world of college sports has changed.
2 comments I will add.
1. As to the baseball analogy, Marvin Miller was smart enough to make sure free agency was managed so that not everyone was a free agent every year. That would drastically increase supply, and drive down the rewards for many of the free agents. Would Bryce Harper and Aaron Judge get better contracts if both were available at the same time, or would they get bigger contracts if one was available this year and the other next year? Where collegiate athletics is now is total free agency every year. I Don think that is sustainable and I am not sure how it will work out in the long run.
2. I believe institutions will be able to raise NIL dollars based on their profile not based on the number of sports they support. A school that has to $$ between football and basketball will be inherently at a disadvantage to schools that only have to support basketball with their pool of NIL dollars.
1. As to the baseball analogy, Marvin Miller was smart enough to make sure free agency was managed so that not everyone was a free agent every year. That would drastically increase supply, and drive down the rewards for many of the free agents. Would Bryce Harper and Aaron Judge get better contracts if both were available at the same time, or would they get bigger contracts if one was available this year and the other next year? Where collegiate athletics is now is total free agency every year. I Don think that is sustainable and I am not sure how it will work out in the long run.
2. I believe institutions will be able to raise NIL dollars based on their profile not based on the number of sports they support. A school that has to $$ between football and basketball will be inherently at a disadvantage to schools that only have to support basketball with their pool of NIL dollars.
I am not saying I agree with current state of affairs or if the current free agency is sustainable. And then, maybe schools want to drive down the cost of players. I just know ISU athletics has to somehow survive the current state of affairs. Maybe the money flows but I believe there is going to be the haves and the have nots. There are going to be teams with double A talent trying to play with the major leagues in division one basketball and football. I hope Pedon and the rest of the administration have a plan to at least be tripleA.
Technically you can still transfer even after the portal closes you are just no longer guaranteed immediate eligibility, with the exception of transfers who announce their transfer within 30 days of a coaching change.
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I read all of this and I don't like the NIL one bit or what has happened to college sports. I am not going to change that.
Even with the change in the landscape of college sports, why can't ISU RED be the flagship institution of the MVC? (And not just for the All Sports Trophy). IMO, there is no reason with our resources and facilities we cannot compete with everyone in the Valley and win. I am extremely disappointed with our inability to be competitive in Men's basketball. This needs to change in Pedon Year 3.
Even with the change in the landscape of college sports, why can't ISU RED be the flagship institution of the MVC? (And not just for the All Sports Trophy). IMO, there is no reason with our resources and facilities we cannot compete with everyone in the Valley and win. I am extremely disappointed with our inability to be competitive in Men's basketball. This needs to change in Pedon Year 3.
That would be my sentiment. ISUr needs to see massive improvement this year, or it is time to reload and rebuild in regards to management. ISUr needs to find that men’s basketball coach that can navigate these new waters we find ourselves in. Hopefully current management is up to the task. This day and age three years is a long time when you can reload and rebuild every year. If not ISUr will start resembling a low level place to play versus others in the valley.