fourthandshort
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shoot .. just need a safety to cover the 13.5 point spread ... Come on defense !!!
tend not to disagree with your overall logic but I do sometimes disagree with your tendency of only using certain plays/facts/stats to make a point. So yes if you want to exclude Sticks designed running or option running plays then yes ISU controlled NDSU’s running game in the first half. But why exclude those plays?fourthandshort said:You keep wanting to disagree with me .. fine.ChiRedbirdfan said:???disagree...ndsu has many stick keepers for gains that were by choice vs stick scrambling due to pressure to survive that subsequently resulted in gainsfourthandshort said:I think they are just out-executing us in trenches, but it is not in their run game .. it is all Stick.
ISU needs to focus this half and play their game as so far they have been off balance due to penalties and big ndsu plays
Stick has just 5 carries for 43 yards, one of which he left pocket. Their RBs have 15 carries for 40 yards .. so I'd say we are stopping their primary run effort, but we are not accounting for their QB.
saxman210 said:How can a game seem both closer and more lopsided than the final score was? We got beat in all 3 phases, Brady struggled mightily at times and shined at a couple others. Defense got beat deep, a big problem of years past. Let’s not even talk about special teams kicking and coverage. About my only bright spot was that James Robinson busted a couple good runs.
Moral of this game: Nobody is in NDSUs league at the moment, especially not us. I keep comparing NDSU to the Bulls of the 90s. Why would you, as a high schooler, if offered by NDSU, go somewhere else without an extremely good reason? “Hey, come win nattys with the Bison! Look at Carson Wentz and the rest of our NFL Bison.” NDSU is way ahead of everyone in recruiting, attendance and overall program strength and they’re going to stay that way.
saxman210 said:How can a game seem both closer and more lopsided than the final score was? We got beat in all 3 phases, Brady struggled mightily at times and shined at a couple others. Defense got beat deep, a big problem of years past. Let’s not even talk about special teams kicking and coverage. About my only bright spot was that James Robinson busted a couple good runs.
Moral of this game: Nobody is in NDSUs league at the moment, especially not us. I keep comparing NDSU to the Bulls of the 90s. Why would you, as a high schooler, if offered by NDSU, go somewhere else without an extremely good reason? “Hey, come win nattys with the Bison! Look at Carson Wentz and the rest of our NFL Bison.” NDSU is way ahead of everyone in recruiting, attendance and overall program strength and they’re going to stay that way.
TIMMY said:I don't believe in morale victories.Today sucked. But there are certain things that matter. Seniors. Football is a senior game. Always has been - always will be. There are 6 seniors on the NDSU starting front 7. 24 on the team. We have 11 seniors total on our roster. I think it showed throughout the game. And it's mostly little things like a redshirt freshman receiver not coming back to the ball on a curl.. Or a redshirt freshman DE letting a tackle get under his pads and getting down blocked into Minnesota. Or a sophomore running out of his lane on KO Ret. Or yes, a QB who's really a sophomore forcing a pass he should have thrown away.
This is a young team. They went up to Fargo and played the best team in the country tough. Hell we won the second half. It's going to get better. Making the playoffs would be huge. Get in playoffs this year. Win the damn thing next year. That's all I got.
This is a perfect summary of the game " ISU losing the battle of the trenches big time".ChiRedbirdfan said:fourthandshort said:QB Stick is killing us .. their RBs have 15 carries for 40 yards, so they are putting the game in Sticks hands and feet .. 188 yards passing and 43 yards rushing.
He is killing us indeed but it all starts in the trenches. ISU losing the battle of the trenches big time
saxman210 said:Why would you, as a high schooler, if offered by NDSU, go somewhere else
ChiRedbirdfan said:tend not to disagree with your overall logic but I do sometimes disagree with your tendency of only using certain plays/facts/stats to make a point. So yes if you want to exclude Sticks designed running or option running plays then yes ISU controlled NDSU’s running game in the first half. But why exclude those plays?fourthandshort said:You keep wanting to disagree with me .. fine.ChiRedbirdfan said:???disagree...ndsu has many stick keepers for gains that were by choice vs stick scrambling due to pressure to survive that subsequently resulted in gains
ISU needs to focus this half and play their game as so far they have been off balance due to penalties and big ndsu plays
Stick has just 5 carries for 43 yards, one of which he left pocket. Their RBs have 15 carries for 40 yards .. so I'd say we are stopping their primary run effort, but we are not accounting for their QB.
Adunk33 said:The last play I saw was Brady's INT. How the Bizon player that drove him into the ground and then slammed him again, when Brady wasnt near the play, didn't get tossed from the game is crazy to me. I need to go watch it again to make sure that's what happened but in the moment, I was livid. It was a clear cheap shot at our QB. I know the Bizon player got a personal foul, but I think more definitely could have been called.
Adunk33 said:Adunk33 said:The last play I saw was Brady's INT. How the Bizon player that drove him into the ground and then slammed him again, when Brady wasnt near the play, didn't get tossed from the game is crazy to me. I need to go watch it again to make sure that's what happened but in the moment, I was livid. It was a clear cheap shot at our QB. I know the Bizon player got a personal foul, but I think more definitely could have been called.
Yup. Just watched it and confirmed my thought. Brady was nowhere near the play. Got drove into the ground by #69 and then 69# goes full body weight on him again. 69 walks off with a smirk on his face. Dirty.