ISU President Kinzy resigns

[Reggie1857]

While her short tenure may be bad press in the short term, her departure is good news for the university, especially men’s athletics and the engineering school. That is if the new administration doesn’t continue with the same narratives (wink, wink)

 

[Total Red]

While her short tenure may be bad press in the short term, her departure is good news for the university, especially men’s athletics and the engineering school. That is if the new administration doesn’t continue with the same narratives (wink, wink)

It's clear that Kyle Brennan doesn't agree with your assessment. I'm not sure who to believe. Kyle is much closer to the situation than you are and he has almost 20 years of experience in departments of college athletics. That's a toughie (wink, wink). And remember he didn't have to say this with Dr. Kinzy on the way out.



btw Hail to the New Chief that may or may not turn out to be interim - President Aondover Tarhule - GO BIRDS!

 

[gobirds85]

The next president has a golden opportunity to leave a lasting legacy here. We do need an individual who understands the delicate balance and importance of athletics and academics. I, for one, am usually in favor of hiring within. I think it sets a precedence and allows an individual to become invested in the university.

We hit home runs with Boschini, Jr., Bowman and Dietz. Time to swing for the fences again.

 

[DougSutton]

It's clear that Kyle Brennan doesn't agree with your assessment. I'm not sure who to believe. Kyle is much closer to the situation than you are and he has almost 20 years of experience in departments of college athletics. That's a toughie (wink, wink). And remember he didn't have to say this with Dr. Kinzy on the way out.



btw Hail to the New Chief that may or may not turn out to be interim - President Aondover Tarhule - GO BIRDS!

Very interesting. If there were metaphorical lines drawn in the sandbox, it certainly appears that Kyle has put his stake in Dr Kinzy's side. Agree that he didn't need to say anything and I've always perceived Kyle to be a well thought out person that takes his time before he choose to say something, understanding that his words carry weight. From the little that I know and have experienced, I have an incredible amount of respect for Kyle and his words carry weight with me. Of course there could always be more behind the story that we don't see on the surface but from my awareness and view, I feel he's doing an awesome job as our AD and fully support him.

I have no judgment about anything regarding this situation. It'll be interesting to see what unfolds over time. As others have said, including in the WGLT articles, it appears that the Board of Trustees may have significant challenges and people that are not on the same page. I applaud WGLT for their coverage so far and I'm sure they and others were at the public Board of Trustees meeting today that I linked above and hope they were able to ask deeper questions.

Coach Pedon was asked in his post game press conference about this and he spoke highly of her and then stopped himself from saying anything more. You can skip ahead to the 2:50 mark of the video if you want to see.

 

[Hamdonger]

There were trustees at the game on Wednesday night...they've had a busy week or 2.
I'll offer this. People in these bigger positions, such as The President and Athletic Director...not only are they representing the people of Illinois State...they are working FOR THE PEOPLE associated with Illinois State. One thing I'd recommend. These are public positions. Just one little idea here and I'm pulling it out the blue, but understand it makes a bigger point in the end. Kyle should do the rounds and say hello to the ushers once in a while. (Actually, every game, but hey) These folks are freely giving their time. Others who are formally employed in the dept, but on a much lower end, same thing. Same with whoever the Prez is. Staying in touch - even just a little bit - with the common man goes a long way towards company morale.

It didn't have to end this way. It's too bad. But I saw our interim Prez already doing the rounds on Wednesday night. We move on and I wish everyone the best, including Terri Goss Kinzy.

 

[Hamdonger]

Well stated Hulka. I am not going to comment on any individual ISU Board of Trustee but will share my personal belief that the board composition, as a whole, is (and has been) incredibly underwhelming given the size of ISU and given that it is a national university. This has been that way for quite some time, IMO. In typical state of Illinois governing fashion, several BOT seats are not even filled. Too bad it is a political appointment. I have seen many small non-for-profit boards that were much more impressive than ISU's current or past boards.

So elaborate a bit more. What would make a good BOT at Illinois State? Sincere question.

 

[MadBird]

From MadBird's perch, 200 miles away, small potatoes donor, information from the Pantagraph and this board mostly, I was impressed with President Goss Kinzy. I got the feeling she gave a damn about athletics, saw her at games, things got done under her watch. Brennan speaks highly of her.

I could go on and on about my perspective on "boards" of trustees, committees, commissions, etc. Spent my career dealing with, helping appoint, staffing, various boards and commissions and committees at one level or the other. My point is, it can be hard to "get it right". Usually lotsa people to keep happy, constituencies to satisfy, etc. ISU may have a BOT that isn't smooth at this point, I have no idea. But it can get better, sometimes with only one or two changes.

 

[SgtHulka]

She worked the crowd at pregame in StL. Very personable. Many admin level folks wouldn't give a regular Joe the time of day. Seemed she cared about athletics

 

[Bird Friend]

One question: as a former BOT member, why is Bob Dobski being asked a question about Kinzy's resignation?

 

[MadBird]

One question: as a former BOT member, why is Bob Dobski being asked a question about Kinzy's resignation?

I get the feeling that the current members are under a "no comment" clause in the separation agreement. So a former is the only source of comment they can dig up.

 

[dpdoughbird06]

I get the feeling that the current members are under a "no comment" clause in the separation agreement. So a former is the only source of comment they can dig up.

And he is very recently departed - his term expired last month - so it’s not like asking a coach from the ‘80s to weigh in on today’s game.

With vacancies remaining and a fellow trustee with an expired term staying on without renewal, I wonder why Bob Dobski had to go immediately when the BOT now has trouble reaching a quorum during such a tumultuous time.

I’m sure there are reasons for everything, but blanket NDAs on all sides will leave us guessing for awhile.

 

[dpdoughbird06]

The next president has a golden opportunity to leave a lasting legacy here. We do need an individual who understands the delicate balance and importance of athletics and academics. I, for one, am usually in favor of hiring within. I think it sets a precedence and allows an individual to become invested in the university.

We hit home runs with Boschini, Jr., Bowman and Dietz. Time to swing for the fences again.

I was thinking the same. If nothing else we have a lot more data to go on for an internal hire. Resumes are great, but those soft factors matter - and we really missed there on Flanagan.

Interim President Tarhule has been here for a few years now, I believe; the BOT should have a lot of solid info to go on if they do their due diligence and speak with those who have worked with him on and around campus.

The one caveat is one that we see in college sports and the NFL constantly: the stud coordinator does not always make the best head coach. But assuming we feel good about his management style and fit for the role, I’m all for casting our lot with another internal hire who steadily leads ISU until retirement (or in Boschini’s case the chance to lead TCU).

 

[DougSutton]

I'm very impressed with WGLT and admittedly didn't really pay any attention to them prior to the recent events that have unfolded. I understand that this is an Illinois State University specific news entity so of course they will cover ISU but dang, they run circles around the Pantagraph. Here's an article from the BOT meeting yesterday. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Tarhule so far.

ISU Board of Trustees accepts resignation of Terri Goss Kinzy, appoints Aondover Tarhule as interim president

Illinois State University's Board of Trustees has voted to accept the resignation of now-former president Terri Goss Kinzy, the 20th person to hold that role and the first woman to lead the university.

www.wglt.org

 

[Bird Friend]

The next president has a golden opportunity to leave a lasting legacy here. We do need an individual who understands the delicate balance and importance of athletics and academics. I, for one, am usually in favor of hiring within. I think it sets a precedence and allows an individual to become invested in the university.

We hit home runs with Boschini, Jr., Bowman and Dietz. Time to swing for the fences again.

I’ll be honest and say I’ve seen very few comments on this board suggesting Dietz was a “home run” . . . quite the opposite actually.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

I’ll be honest and say I’ve seen very few comments on this board suggesting Dietz was a “home run” . . . quite the opposite actually.

Dietz was the right hire for the moment. He righted the ship after the Flanagan disaster. Wouldn’t call him a homerun, but he was by no means bad.

 

[REALBird]

And he is very recently departed - his term expired last month - so it’s not like asking a coach from the ‘80s to weigh in on today’s game.

With vacancies remaining and a fellow trustee with an expired term staying on without renewal, I wonder why Bob Dobski had to go immediately when the BOT now has trouble reaching a quorum during such a tumultuous time.

I’m sure there are reasons for everything, but blanket NDAs on all sides will leave us guessing for awhile.

Recently departed as in “not reappointed”. I’ll save my thoughts on the Burger and Steak King of Blo/No and his less than liberal views, but me thinks there is more to his agenda. As someone with no skin in the game anymore why does he care?

Out of respect for Quinnie I had questions, but no “wink wink” innuendo or water cooler questions.

Let’s move forward.

 

[dpdoughbird06]

Recently departed as in “not reappointed”. I’ll save my thoughts on the Burger and Steak King of Blo/No and his less than liberal views, but me thinks there is more to his agenda. As someone with no skin in the game anymore why does he care?

Out of respect for Quinnie I had questions, but no “wink wink” innuendo or water cooler questions.

Let’s move forward.

Agreed. I’ll keep political leanings out of it and just say it’d be nice to have candidates lined up to fill vacancies as they arise - and even better if the board can retain at least a few members from the BloNo community.

Even with the leader of the grad student union pushing for more transparency, it sounds like everyone is sworn to secrecy on the details; what matters now is how an Interim President Tarhule takes the baton and moves the university forward.

 

[gobirds85]

I’ll be honest and say I’ve seen very few comments on this board suggesting Dietz was a “home run” . . . quite the opposite actually.

Triple?

I have had a few meetings, public and personal, with Dr. Dietz and I came away from these discussions feeling good about our encounter. Granted no one is perfect, but as BirdGrad 2011 stated he was the "right hire for the moment" and in my estimations, grew from there.

 

[Bird Friend]

Triple?

I have had a few meetings, public and personal, with Dr. Dietz and I came away from these discussions feeling good about our encounter. Granted no one is perfect, but as BirdGrad 2011 stated he was the "right hire for the moment" and in my estimations, grew from there.

More like a double, but only cuz he didn’t have the speed to stretch it into a triple. Both he and Lyons were knee jerk hires to steady the ship—and good choices in that respect—but really shouldn’t have in their positions as long as they were. Had they been the right choices for moving ISU forward, they wouldn’t have been passed over in the first place, imo.

 

[gobirds85]

More like a double, but only cuz he didn’t have the speed to stretch it into a triple. Both he and Lyons were knee jerk hires to steady the ship—and good choices in that respect—but really shouldn’t have in their positions as long as they were. Had they been the right choices for moving ISU forward, they wouldn’t have been passed over in the first place, imo.

Lyons was a horrible hire. Just a bean counter with no personality or vision to get the job done. We struck out on two pitches with this guy.