Good intel. I was really suggesting Howie coming back was more likely than Strong. Seem neither will be back, then.
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Well that is definitely a bummer.
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I hate to say it, but I think we can look at the type of programs sniffing around guys in the portal where they stand. Howie is visiting places like Manhattan. Emon went D2. Strong, Reeves, and Chatman are the only guys getting equal and better looks.
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Would you say Strong, Reeves. and Chatman are better than anyone who we've brought in so far? I would.
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It’s really tough to say. We haven’t brought in a post so yes on Chatman by default. Nobody is as good as Reeves today. Luke was better in high school, but that didn’t show up at KSU. Im not so interested in better individual players. Step 1 of building is becoming a better team.
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Reeves, yes. I'd take Kasubke and Burford over Strong and we don't really have a comparison to Chatman yet because they are all guards/wings. I've also been told that Malachi may be the best of the bunch...
Have you seen the incoming play Timmy?
TIMMY
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No, but there's no lack of "rating" players on this board whether anyone has seen them or not. Only time will tell, but talent wins. Slow guys don't win races! Right now I'm just not seeing it and their stats (times) are right there for everyone.
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No, is Timmy good?
Timmy is the best and dont you forget it!!!
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Pedon playing hardball.
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I was shocked to see the talent in this program.
Shocked how, Pops?
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We had talent last year although besides Reeves and Lewis most I believe were 1 or 2 dimensional players. They started to play better in December with a win over MSU and playing well at Wisconsin. However, the team never reached its potential defensively and struggled after losing Chatman. I thought the talent was much better than in recent years.
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Stats are just as misleading as anything else in this world from time to time. There are too many variables that come into play regarding them. I’m only speaking of Malachi right now. Last season’s stats at UVA offensively were 50% from the floor on only 16 shot attempts. Could he have played more? Yes. Could he had finished the season a 50% shooter. Realistically speaking, he have a chance to do exactly that at Illinois State University. Take a look at Pedon’s offense at Ohio State. Hell believe it or not he shot mid 40’s from 3 as a sophomore in high school. On the AAU Circuit I’ve seen him knock down 7 in a game, with 4 multiple times in a quarter in high school. Truth be said, first years or not this can be a dangerous team under Pedon. The best teams on every basketball level have more than one very capable guard getting minutes. We shall see.
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I don’t think anyone is trying to cut Malachi short. We have been burned on buying into the hype on guys like this from the prior regime. Think most of us are tempering expectations and going more conservative with our hype. I’m cautiously optimistic.
in my mind most competitive games last season ( Wis , SWMo & BU wins) shots were largely Reeves and Strong(Obviously Wisc/BU COVID RELATED)Most of the guys are willing to do what’s necessary to win and that coaches ask them to do. Last year, we could score plenty, a little more dependent upon perimeter after losing Chatman, but an awful lot of the time, it appeared virtually everybody seemed to have green light anywhere and nobody felt like they were given the priority to rebound/make defensive stop. When you watch Lewis and McChesney at Wsc, they are really focused on rebounds/defense, same with 2nd half BU win, but for whatever reason, that didn’t translate to remainder of season. If players are willing to play roles and coaches are willing to recruit and require it, you can win in the MVC(see UNI).
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Missouri Valley teams are usually carried by guards who are either very athletic, excellent shooters, or both. We can all factor in that you might have a tiny objectivity bias (I don't mean that as an insult; it's just natural), but how would you describe or rate Malachi's defensive skills?
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He is a very good on ball defender and stronger than bigger guards think.