Gargoyles @ Redbirds 1-17-18 6 p.m.

[Hamdonger]

For this team to reach higher...will require Evans, Yarborough and Fayne on the court.

I don't think anybody on the planet would disagree with that.

Except maybe for Hein's grandmother. Who probably has a higher vertical than you. And she's preggers.

Outside of that, no disagreements.

 

[Bdub777]

Your Hein bashing is simply ridiculous. This kid is becoming a VERY nice player. I read many collegiate boards and I have never seen someone so willing to eat their own. Has it dawned on you that the players read these posts? And what about recruits? They see a player who has put splinters in his ass for 3 years while undoubtedly sweating, bleeding and working his ass off to become a freaking STARTER get trashed by Redbird "supporters". Awesome. If I'm a recruit I'd have second thoughts. MH has been ripped as the worst player, dribbler, shooter, defender who's ever walked the ISU campus yet he STARTS. And tonight you'd take any guard in the league over Hein... Seriously?? Total insanity. Is it that Hein represents the failures in your own non-career? This kid is getting better game by game and what if we're seeing a kid who is finding himself? What exactly are you accomplishing with this asinine bashing of MH? I've read "He can't play in the Friday night rec league", "end of the bench victory cigar" and so many other delightful rips that obviously evoked self-congratulatory backslapping for their creative snarkiness. Sorry man, but he is a KEY part of this team's success and getting better. Your personal contempt for the kid is clouding the reality of a kid who literally hasn't played in 3 years and is gaining greater confidence and success with every outing. Sitting behind your PC and firing off this nonsense is below you, man.

Has it dawned on you that Hein's "improvement" was motivated by what he's read on this board? Not everyone is a snowflake. People draw inspiration in different ways. Maybe he's works harder to prove people wrong. Maybe you should be thanking the critics.

Has it dawned on you that for your point to have validity he’d .....aww forget it....

 

[Tpguy]

one second left in the game, ISU down 1 point, at the line with a one and one opportunity. Your choice shooting the foul shots our D1 Fayne or our wasted scholarship Hein?

 

[Redbird78]

one second left in the game, ISU down 1 point, at the line with a one and one opportunity. Your choice shooting the foul shots our D1 Fayne or our wasted scholarship Hein?

Voice of reason

 

[DoubleDeuce]

I sure hope we don't beat Indiana State... I'd hate to see the abuse our players and coaches would take.

 

[Bird Friend]

Non revenue, non message board sport. No one is ever going to care except a parent getting college paid in full. I didn't raise a snowflake. I have been plenty critical. Hein is likely tougher than most give him credit for. Most of the insinuation on here portrays him as a wimp that needs Snowflake Nation to rally to his defense.

But did you raise a buttercup?

 

[Bird Friend]

one second left in the game, ISU down 1 point, at the line with a one and one opportunity. Your choice shooting the foul shots our D1 Fayne or our wasted scholarship Hein?

Can I phone a friend?

 

[V Boy]

The fact that our fans are making up new stats to justify Hein being on the floor a lot is where this team is at right now.

Minutes played per turnover.

This stat effectively measures who is the best person on our team at being on the court the longest without ****ing up.

 

[SgtHulka]

I like Hein v2017/8.
Do I want him to be the guy getting the most minutes? No
Do I cringe when he takes the floor? No
Does he provide worth to the team? Yes
Do other players have shortcomings? Yes to all
Have Hein's shortcomings cost us any games ? None I can point directly to
Have other, more heralded players shortcomings cost us games? I think that can be stated as fact
When the "real D1 players" get their acts together will his minutes go down? Most likley
Will I be labeled a Hein apologist for life? Fine by me
Will he be our Adam Emmeneker and have a glory year? Maybe, time will tell and I'm willing to wait and see
Will he be our Joe Hein? I think he's already clocked in ahead of him
Did I think he was dead weight tacked on with David? Yes
Do I still think that? Coming around
Is there any proof positive that that is the case? None I know of as fact
Are any of you still reading this or have you moved along? probably not
do I care? Not really
Is HCDM crazy for playing him, or crazy like a fox? Time will tell
Does he need an ear tuck? Might help, though some ladies like handles
does he need to pull that elbow in? Yes
Does he have moves like Adam E? Yes, the drive to the FT Line, stop spin and evaluate options and kick it reminds me very much of what Adam E use to do
Still reading? OK I'll continue
Do people here love to have a whipping boy? Yes, every ISU team has had one
Does his shot come from too low? Yes
Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? If it helps you be irritated then fine, Yes
Do I really? Nope
Do I think he's an adequate role player? Yes
Do I think he ads value? Yes
Do I think he can be a solid role player at some point? yes
do I think Romine will play this weekend? I hope so
Do i think EC will continue to improve? I hope so
Do I hope MW comes back this weekend? Yes
Am I done Yet? 1 more
TGIF? Well the jury is still out on the G part, but yes

 

[bb fan]

Great post, Sgt. It is posters like you that keep my faith in Redbirdfan.net and make it a good fan board.

I don't care if it irritates anyone or not, but I am going a step further on Hein. I think he will be a key player for us by the time he is a senior. And a fan fav.

And great post, doubledeuce. It seems sometimes the Debbie Downers are actually disappointed when we win.

One other thought, if MY takes care of the ball like he did vs BU in the previous two games, we would have won our last 3 games. He can do it. And we he does, we are a much better team.

 

[BTbird]

I vote that DM wears an earpiece during the game. That way we can have some of our forum posters let him know when and who to sub in the game based on what they have seen on TV and read on message boards. With this, I think our unacceptable win problem would be solved.

 

[birdballfan]

I like Hein v2017/8.
Do I want him to be the guy getting the most minutes? No
Do I cringe when he takes the floor? No
Does he provide worth to the team? Yes
Do other players have shortcomings? Yes to all
Have Hein's shortcomings cost us any games ? None I can point directly to
Have other, more heralded players shortcomings cost us games? I think that can be stated as fact
When the "real D1 players" get their acts together will his minutes go down? Most likley
Will I be labeled a Hein apologist for life? Fine by me
Will he be our Adam Emmeneker and have a glory year? Maybe, time will tell and I'm willing to wait and see
Will he be our Joe Hein? I think he's already clocked in ahead of him
Did I think he was dead weight tacked on with David? Yes
Do I still think that? Coming around
Is there any proof positive that that is the case? None I know of as fact
Are any of you still reading this or have you moved along? probably not
do I care? Not really
Is HCDM crazy for playing him, or crazy like a fox? Time will tell
Does he need an ear tuck? Might help, though some ladies like handles
does he need to pull that elbow in? Yes
Does he have moves like Adam E? Yes, the drive to the FT Line, stop spin and evaluate options and kick it reminds me very much of what Adam E use to do
Still reading? OK I'll continue
Do people here love to have a whipping boy? Yes, every ISU team has had one
Does his shot come from too low? Yes
Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? If it helps you be irritated then fine, Yes
Do I really? Nope
Do I think he's an adequate role player? Yes
Do I think he ads value? Yes
Do I think he can be a solid role player at some point? yes
do I think Romine will play this weekend? I hope so
Do i think EC will continue to improve? I hope so
Do I hope MW comes back this weekend? Yes
Am I done Yet? 1 more
TGIF? Well the jury is still out on the G part, but yes

:clap: :text-+1: :clap: :text-+1: :clap: :text-+1: :clap: :text-+1:

 

[cpacmel]

I like Hein v2017/8.
Do I want him to be the guy getting the most minutes? No
Do I cringe when he takes the floor? No
Does he provide worth to the team? Yes
Do other players have shortcomings? Yes to all
Have Hein's shortcomings cost us any games ? None I can point directly to
Have other, more heralded players shortcomings cost us games? I think that can be stated as fact
When the "real D1 players" get their acts together will his minutes go down? Most likley
Will I be labeled a Hein apologist for life? Fine by me
Will he be our Adam Emmeneker and have a glory year? Maybe, time will tell and I'm willing to wait and see
Will he be our Joe Hein? I think he's already clocked in ahead of him
Did I think he was dead weight tacked on with David? Yes
Do I still think that? Coming around
Is there any proof positive that that is the case? None I know of as fact
Are any of you still reading this or have you moved along? probably not
do I care? Not really
Is HCDM crazy for playing him, or crazy like a fox? Time will tell
Does he need an ear tuck? Might help, though some ladies like handles
does he need to pull that elbow in? Yes
Does he have moves like Adam E? Yes, the drive to the FT Line, stop spin and evaluate options and kick it reminds me very much of what Adam E use to do
Still reading? OK I'll continue
Do people here love to have a whipping boy? Yes, every ISU team has had one
Does his shot come from too low? Yes
Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? If it helps you be irritated then fine, Yes
Do I really? Nope
Do I think he's an adequate role player? Yes
Do I think he ads value? Yes
Do I think he can be a solid role player at some point? yes
do I think Romine will play this weekend? I hope so
Do i think EC will continue to improve? I hope so
Do I hope MW comes back this weekend? Yes
Am I done Yet? 1 more
TGIF? Well the jury is still out on the G part, but yes

Post of the year if not decade! :clap:

 

[Redbird78]

I like Hein v2017/8.
Do I want him to be the guy getting the most minutes? No
Do I cringe when he takes the floor? No
Does he provide worth to the team? Yes
Do other players have shortcomings? Yes to all
Have Hein's shortcomings cost us any games ? None I can point directly to
Have other, more heralded players shortcomings cost us games? I think that can be stated as fact
When the "real D1 players" get their acts together will his minutes go down? Most likley
Will I be labeled a Hein apologist for life? Fine by me
Will he be our Adam Emmeneker and have a glory year? Maybe, time will tell and I'm willing to wait and see
Will he be our Joe Hein? I think he's already clocked in ahead of him
Did I think he was dead weight tacked on with David? Yes
Do I still think that? Coming around
Is there any proof positive that that is the case? None I know of as fact
Are any of you still reading this or have you moved along? probably not
do I care? Not really
Is HCDM crazy for playing him, or crazy like a fox? Time will tell
Does he need an ear tuck? Might help, though some ladies like handles
does he need to pull that elbow in? Yes
Does he have moves like Adam E? Yes, the drive to the FT Line, stop spin and evaluate options and kick it reminds me very much of what Adam E use to do
Still reading? OK I'll continue
Do people here love to have a whipping boy? Yes, every ISU team has had one
Does his shot come from too low? Yes
Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? If it helps you be irritated then fine, Yes
Do I really? Nope
Do I think he's an adequate role player? Yes
Do I think he ads value? Yes
Do I think he can be a solid role player at some point? yes
do I think Romine will play this weekend? I hope so
Do i think EC will continue to improve? I hope so
Do I hope MW comes back this weekend? Yes
Am I done Yet? 1 more
TGIF? Well the jury is still out on the G part, but yes

Post of the year if not decade! :clap:

:text-+1: :clap: :dance:

 

[ISU FAN 1]

I like Hein v2017/8.
Do I want him to be the guy getting the most minutes? No
Do I cringe when he takes the floor? No
Does he provide worth to the team? Yes
Do other players have shortcomings? Yes to all
Have Hein's shortcomings cost us any games ? None I can point directly to
Have other, more heralded players shortcomings cost us games? I think that can be stated as fact
When the "real D1 players" get their acts together will his minutes go down? Most likley
Will I be labeled a Hein apologist for life? Fine by me
Will he be our Adam Emmeneker and have a glory year? Maybe, time will tell and I'm willing to wait and see
Will he be our Joe Hein? I think he's already clocked in ahead of him
Did I think he was dead weight tacked on with David? Yes
Do I still think that? Coming around
Is there any proof positive that that is the case? None I know of as fact
Are any of you still reading this or have you moved along? probably not
do I care? Not really
Is HCDM crazy for playing him, or crazy like a fox? Time will tell
Does he need an ear tuck? Might help, though some ladies like handles
does he need to pull that elbow in? Yes
Does he have moves like Adam E? Yes, the drive to the FT Line, stop spin and evaluate options and kick it reminds me very much of what Adam E use to do
Still reading? OK I'll continue
Do people here love to have a whipping boy? Yes, every ISU team has had one
Does his shot come from too low? Yes
Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? If it helps you be irritated then fine, Yes
Do I really? Nope
Do I think he's an adequate role player? Yes
Do I think he ads value? Yes
Do I think he can be a solid role player at some point? yes
do I think Romine will play this weekend? I hope so
Do i think EC will continue to improve? I hope so
Do I hope MW comes back this weekend? Yes
Am I done Yet? 1 more
TGIF? Well the jury is still out on the G part, but yes

Criticizing his appEARance. Stay classy Hulka.

 

[Tpguy]

I love how a Jr high coach thinks he knows better who to play better than a D1 coach and former great D1 player

QUINN these idiots have the right to point out mistakes, but they are getting way to personal on these kids. Can’t you draw a line somewhere?

 

[DWRedbird]

I like Hein v2017/8.
Do I want him to be the guy getting the most minutes? No
Do I cringe when he takes the floor? No
Does he provide worth to the team? Yes
Do other players have shortcomings? Yes to all
Have Hein's shortcomings cost us any games ? None I can point directly to
Have other, more heralded players shortcomings cost us games? I think that can be stated as fact
When the "real D1 players" get their acts together will his minutes go down? Most likley
Will I be labeled a Hein apologist for life? Fine by me
Will he be our Adam Emmeneker and have a glory year? Maybe, time will tell and I'm willing to wait and see
Will he be our Joe Hein? I think he's already clocked in ahead of him
Did I think he was dead weight tacked on with David? Yes
Do I still think that? Coming around
Is there any proof positive that that is the case? None I know of as fact
Are any of you still reading this or have you moved along? probably not
do I care? Not really
Is HCDM crazy for playing him, or crazy like a fox? Time will tell
Does he need an ear tuck? Might help, though some ladies like handles
does he need to pull that elbow in? Yes
Does he have moves like Adam E? Yes, the drive to the FT Line, stop spin and evaluate options and kick it reminds me very much of what Adam E use to do
Still reading? OK I'll continue
Do people here love to have a whipping boy? Yes, every ISU team has had one
Does his shot come from too low? Yes
Do I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? If it helps you be irritated then fine, Yes
Do I really? Nope
Do I think he's an adequate role player? Yes
Do I think he ads value? Yes
Do I think he can be a solid role player at some point? yes
do I think Romine will play this weekend? I hope so
Do i think EC will continue to improve? I hope so
Do I hope MW comes back this weekend? Yes
Am I done Yet? 1 more
TGIF? Well the jury is still out on the G part, but yes

:text-+1: :text-+1: :clap: 100% agree with this post.

 

[RedbirdMan]

:text-+1:

The fact that our fans are making up new stats to justify Hein being on the floor a lot is where this team is at right now.

Minutes played per turnover.

This stat effectively measures who is the best person on our team at being on the court the longest without ****ing up.

:text-+1:

 

[DoubleDeuce]

one second left in the game, ISU down 1 point, at the line with a one and one opportunity. Your choice shooting the foul shots our D1 Fayne or our wasted scholarship Hein?

Can I phone a friend?

You have a friend?

 

[Hamdonger]

I think you went from Sarge to General with that one. (doesn't make sense to all you military studs, I know, but hey)