Former Redbirds...

[dpdoughbird06]

That sound similar to my 1 hour Billiards class to fulfil a requirement.

I took 1 hour of billiards because I wanted to.

 

[Bird Friend]

Another summer of working to improve . . .

 

[Adunk33]

Another summer of working to improve . . .

Tone had declared after his sophomore season and Per this article, you can only declare twice otherwise you lose college eligibility. Unless something changed, he'll be playing pro ball somewhere next season.

 

[DougSutton]

Tone had declared after his sophomore season and Per this article, you can only declare twice otherwise you lose college eligibility. Unless something changed, he'll be playing pro ball somewhere next season.

For clarification though, has he declared 3 times now? When you said you can declare twice otherwise you lose college eligibility, I interpret that as you can declare twice and still return but if you do a third time, then you lose eligibility. I'm multi tasking while working so may be missing something.

 

[Adunk33]

For clarification though, has he declared 3 times now? When you said you can declare twice otherwise you lose college eligibility, I interpret that as you can declare twice and still return but if you do a third time, then you lose eligibility. I'm multi tasking while working so may be missing something.

I believe this is the second time he's declared. Thus by the rule in the linked article, he would be ineligible to return to college. Though something may have changed.

• Player loses college eligibility if agent is hired, or declares for draft twice

 

[DougSutton]

I believe this is the second time he's declared. Thus by the rule in the linked article, he would be ineligible to return to college. Though something may have changed.

Got it, I misunderstood when you said that you can only declare twice otherwise you lose eligibility. I interpreted that as after the second time you lose eligibility. The last quote you shared makes it clear.

 

[ScoreboardDotRace]

Got it, I misunderstood when you said that you can only declare twice otherwise you lose eligibility. I interpreted that as after the second time you lose eligibility. The last quote you shared makes it clear.

Re reading the tweet it does say he will retain his college eligibility so things may have loosened up.

 

[Baltimore Bird]

I read he has until June 12 to pull his name for the draft and if so he is still eligible to come back to Kentucky or somewhere else

 

[DoubleDeuce]

 

[cpacmel]

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Happy for DJ. Happier for mom and dad. Hopefully a bit easier to make it to games.

 

[Hamdonger]

"Committed" is the biggest oxymoron and eventual faux pas in Division 1 college basketball. Committed. Whatever, peeps. But have at it and go get yours.

 

[CB2K]

That is true - commitment doesn’t equate to commitment anymore. I have nothing against situations that do not work out as planned where the formal conclusion is that it is time to move on but the current state of transfers is ridiculous. Things not working out to the depth that we are seeing in the portal is astounding. Institutional control has been merely eliminated as the pendulum has swung in favor of freedom of movement for student athletes. Hopefully there is a serious groundswell of future effort that emerges for balancing the imbalanced scales accentuated by this policy so both sides can have some type of leverage equity. Things evidently can go south pretty quickly in the minds of young men. I recall reading a post DJ made where he stated something to the effect that he was always an Arizona State Sun Devil last year. That was then; this is now. So, things can change within a few months from being committed to bolting.

 

[FriscoBird90]

Time for some fresh thinking to bring about the balance between player freedom and institutional stability. Here is a spit balling thought for consideration/ridicule: Athletes get five years to play out their four years of eligibility. They are free to transfer with immediate eligibility, but at the cost of losing one year off the eligibility window each time they transfer. Exceptions to losing time off the eligibility window would be made in the events of either a coaching change at their current program, a significant family situation, or major injury that influence/drive their desire to transfer.

So, assuming no coaching change, family impact, or injury angle, first transfer means you go from a total window of five years to play four to having a total window of four years to play four. Transfer a second time, and you have a total of three years to play three. That would force athletes to take their recruiting processes, initial commitments, and any subsequent decisions to transfer even more seriously. A total guess on my part would be a result of a modest reduction in one-time transfers but a major reduction/almost elimination in two-time transfers and older players jumping to different programs as compared to what is currently happening.

In addition, some of the craziness in the current system or any reformed approach will disappear once we work through the back end of the added Covid year of eligibility.

 

[Redbird60451]

Time for some fresh thinking to bring about the balance between player freedom and institutional stability. Here is a spit balling thought for consideration/ridicule: Athletes get five years to play out their four years of eligibility. They are free to transfer with immediate eligibility, but at the cost of losing one year off the eligibility window each time they transfer. Exceptions to losing time off the eligibility window would be made in the events of either a coaching change at their current program, a significant family situation, or major injury that influence/drive their desire to transfer.

So, assuming no coaching change, family impact, or injury angle, first transfer means you go from a total window of five years to play four to having a total window of four years to play four. Transfer a second time, and you have a total of three years to play three. That would force athletes to take their recruiting processes, initial commitments, and any subsequent decisions to transfer even more seriously. A total guess on my part would be a result of a modest reduction in one-time transfers but a major reduction/almost elimination in two-time transfers and older players jumping to different programs as compared to what is currently happening.

In addition, some of the craziness in the current system or any reformed approach will disappear once we work through the back end of the added Covid year of eligibility.

Like where your going with it. My understanding is the scholarship is also a year to year thing in some cases. The University would have to let the Player know shortly after the season that their scholarship for the following year is good. No scholarship and no penalty to the player. If the University/Coaching staff isn't tied to the player, then why should the player be tied to the University?

 

[MadBird]

Like where your going with it. My understanding is the scholarship is also a year to year thing in some cases. The University would have to let the Player know shortly after the season that their scholarship for the following year is good. No scholarship and no penalty to the player. If the University/Coaching staff isn't tied to the player, then why should the player be tied to the University?

I read an article talking about suggestions from one of the "big time" coaches - Stoops maybe - suggesting scholarships involve "contracts". You sign a scholarship for 1-4 years, and if you transfer before your contract is up, you lose a year. So, sign a one year contract out of HS, you're free to go (or stay) after year one no penalty. You sign a 3 year deal, and decide to go after year two, you have to sit a year. All bets are off if the coach leaves. Kind of interesting twist to it.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

Here’s my take on it. Eliminate free grad transfer without sitting out. Every single kid gets 1 free transfer at any time. The only way you get additional without sitting out is documented health/mental health issues, abuse, etc. or your head coach gets fired or leaves. 2nd transfer doesn’t meet requirements then you have to sit.

Allows freedom of movement without being the Wild West. Allows kids to move if the coach they committed to leaves.

 

[ScoreboardDotRace]

I like that except I’d still allow grad transfer for no punishment too. If they fulfilled their degree, then why should they be punished?

I’d say 1 free, outside of those certain situations. After that you have to sit a year.

 

[BirdGrad2011]

I like that except I’d still allow grad transfer for no punishment too. If they fulfilled their degree, then why should they be punished?

I’d say 1 free, outside of those certain situations. After that you have to sit a year.

I would just be trying to eliminate the kid spends 3 years at mid major then uses his one free transfer. Goes to an okay P5 graduates then immediately back in the portal trying to upgrade again.

 

[Bird Friend]

That is true - commitment doesn’t equate to commitment anymore. I have nothing against situations that do not work out as planned where the formal conclusion is that it is time to move on but the current state of transfers is ridiculous. Things not working out to the depth that we are seeing in the portal is astounding. Institutional control has been merely eliminated as the pendulum has swung in favor of freedom of movement for student athletes. Hopefully there is a serious groundswell of future effort that emerges for balancing the imbalanced scales accentuated by this policy so both sides can have some type of leverage equity. Things evidently can go south pretty quickly in the minds of young men. I recall reading a post DJ made where he stated something to the effect that he was always an Arizona State Sun Devil last year. That was then; this is now. So, things can change within a few months from being committed to bolting.

You mean like literally doesn’t mean literally anymore?