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Dang. 44,000 Chinese students? And impossible? Some 44K students managed to get in.
I hear what you're saying though. Met a couple just this week, from Israel, who were in Illinois visiting their son who they sent to UofI.
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Dang. 44,000 Chinese students? And impossible? Some 44K students managed to get in.
I hear what you're saying though. Met a couple just this week, from Israel, who were in Illinois visiting their son who they sent to UofI.
Redbird Alum 2004 said:
Totally agree. The American dream as we knew it and have been sold isn't the American dream.
Kids today...LEARN A SKILL, POUND YOUR CRAFT, GET GOOD AT RELATIONSHIP SKILLS. If that requires college, so be it. But it's a mistake to think you have to go the standard four or five year college route to create a damn good living in today's world.
Our current system is simply setting up a financial crash that will make '08 look like tiddlywinks. The college dream is a LIE, folks.
I know MBA's working for not much more than 8.50 an hour, in exchange for 100-150K of school debt, some schools much higher. Folks, we have a system THAT IS BROKEN.
Yet, the herd mentality prevails. When you see a herd gathering, sure, keep aware of what's going on in there...but the real action is what's going on outside of the herd.
Why wouldn't we be interested in an engineering program? Think it's an EXCELLENT addition if it comes to pass. I'll throw one caveat in there...have built-in apprenticeship programs with the degree(s).
And while I say the college dream is somewhat of a lie, engineering programs generate not a minimum wage, but a LIVING wage where people can actually support a family. The more degrees like that, with specific skillset, the better...and it helps the scope of the entire university, including athletics. Also, certainly don't think it would hurt the donor base, especially commercial donors.
Yes Illinois State...pursue it!
And while I say the college dream is somewhat of a lie, engineering programs generate not a minimum wage, but a LIVING wage where people can actually support a family. The more degrees like that, with specific skillset, the better...and it helps the scope of the entire university, including athletics. Also, certainly don't think it would hurt the donor base, especially commercial donors.
Yes Illinois State...pursue it!
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ISU needs an engineering, law and medical program to hold serve with any top public school. This is 1000X more important than FBS, trying to get the basketball team out of the Valley or any restoration project.
ISU is a world class university, but nobody will notice that until you start seeing "big money" alumni from "big money" programs. We have great business programs. Time to step up in other areas.
ISU is a world class university, but nobody will notice that until you start seeing "big money" alumni from "big money" programs. We have great business programs. Time to step up in other areas.
Redbirdwarrior said:
Totally agree!! ISU has a great business, nursing and education program. My daughter went through the nursing program and graduated last year, Had job offers before graduation.
MCN ranks first in NCLEX-RN pass rate in the state of Illinois. Its a competitive program to get into.
Graduates of Illinois State University Mennonite College of Nursing (MCN) achieved a 94 percent pass rate on the national nursing licensure examination (NCLEX-RN) for 2016 for Baccalaureate Degree state schools in Illinois. The national and the state of Illinois pass rates are both 85 percent.
MCN graduates have exceeded the state and national averages for the NCLEX-RN for more than 12 years, as reported by the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation in the governor’s office.
“This is outstanding news to see that out of all Baccalaureate Degree state universities in Illinois, MCN has the highest pass rate,” said MCN Dean Judy Neubrander. “We had 157 students take the certification exam last year, which is one of the highest numbers we have had at MCN. Even though our enrollment has increased significantly throughout the years, the quality of education our students receive from MCN’s master teachers is by far one of the best in the state.”
Neubrander contributes the exceptional pass rate to the College Success Plan, which is coordinated by Cathi Kaesberg and Gail Petro, as well as the dedication of every faculty member.
“Part of our mission is to prepare nurses who will lead to improve health outcomes locally and globally, and these pass rates prove our graduates are well prepared. I am very proud of our students and faculty.”
The Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE) recommends the NCLEX-RN pass rates for colleges to be 80 percent or higher, therefore, MCN has exceeded this benchmark for more than a decade.
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MCN graduates have exceeded the state and national averages for the NCLEX-RN for more than 12 years, as reported by the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation in the governor’s office.
“This is outstanding news to see that out of all Baccalaureate Degree state universities in Illinois, MCN has the highest pass rate,” said MCN Dean Judy Neubrander. “We had 157 students take the certification exam last year, which is one of the highest numbers we have had at MCN. Even though our enrollment has increased significantly throughout the years, the quality of education our students receive from MCN’s master teachers is by far one of the best in the state.”
Neubrander contributes the exceptional pass rate to the College Success Plan, which is coordinated by Cathi Kaesberg and Gail Petro, as well as the dedication of every faculty member.
“Part of our mission is to prepare nurses who will lead to improve health outcomes locally and globally, and these pass rates prove our graduates are well prepared. I am very proud of our students and faculty.”
The Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education (CCNE) recommends the NCLEX-RN pass rates for colleges to be 80 percent or higher, therefore, MCN has exceeded this benchmark for more than a decade.
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MCN launches spring entry for RN to BSN program
Mennonite College of Nursing launches spring entry for online RN to Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) program
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MCN is quietly one of the best nursing schools in the world. The fact that it isn't closely associated with a full on pre-med and MD program is bonkers. If the State of Illinois would ever see its way to giving ISU the $500,000,000 they owe them, they could probably buy a big chunk of BroMenn Hospital and build a new Illinois State college of medicine to go along with that.
But, hey, we can dream. Instead, U of I can keep getting the money from us that they don't need or EIU can keep getting the money they don't seem to know how to use.
But, hey, we can dream. Instead, U of I can keep getting the money from us that they don't need or EIU can keep getting the money they don't seem to know how to use.
Supposedly there's some kind of future plan for a nice new nursing education building ( which is sorely needed IMO). I thought it was planned on the site were those old dorms where (that they demolished a few years ago). If ISU goes the Engineering route I wonder if that makes the nursing building a pipe dream? We need that practice facility first, right!!!
I also think there's a long term plan to move U-high to just west of the golf course. That would free up some more room for ISU to expand.
I also think there's a long term plan to move U-high to just west of the golf course. That would free up some more room for ISU to expand.
Adding Engineering will help balance the ISU community.
ISU currently has more female than male students.
ISU currently has more female than male employees (There are more tenure track males than females, but among adjunct professors, administrators, advisors, counselors, support staff there are more females than males).
There is value to adding degree programs that are projected to attract male students. Engineering traditionally fills that role. Of course more women are enrolling in engineering than in the past, but it is still a male dominated field.
ISU has some "hidden gem" programs in Industrial Technology, but that department just lacks visibility and identity in my opinion. Linking it with engineering programs would help both. Currently it is linked with programs like Recreation. A fine field, but their only connection is that they aren't Liberal Arts, Business, Education, Nursing, Fine Arts, etc.
ME attracts the highest number of students. Civil Engineering would have some overlap with current Industrial Technology expertise (Construction, groundwater flow) so that might be another easy choice. There are definite opportunities here.
UIUC has historically blocked these moves. But they are indeed so focused on International students who will pay tuition, that they may not care as much. But I have to believe that UIC, NIU and SIU would scream loudly.
ISU currently has more female than male students.
ISU currently has more female than male employees (There are more tenure track males than females, but among adjunct professors, administrators, advisors, counselors, support staff there are more females than males).
There is value to adding degree programs that are projected to attract male students. Engineering traditionally fills that role. Of course more women are enrolling in engineering than in the past, but it is still a male dominated field.
ISU has some "hidden gem" programs in Industrial Technology, but that department just lacks visibility and identity in my opinion. Linking it with engineering programs would help both. Currently it is linked with programs like Recreation. A fine field, but their only connection is that they aren't Liberal Arts, Business, Education, Nursing, Fine Arts, etc.
ME attracts the highest number of students. Civil Engineering would have some overlap with current Industrial Technology expertise (Construction, groundwater flow) so that might be another easy choice. There are definite opportunities here.
UIUC has historically blocked these moves. But they are indeed so focused on International students who will pay tuition, that they may not care as much. But I have to believe that UIC, NIU and SIU would scream loudly.
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IMO, we do not need a law school. There is already a glut of lawyers flooding the market and law schools deceiving applicants on placement after graduation. I wholeheartedly would support an engineering program. Looking back, how did SIU and NIU beat us to the punch in both engineering and law? What was our justification for not competing for those programs? SIU’s law school has been in existence since the mid 70s.
WoodlandWarrior said:
Agreed. The Southern Illinois School of Law is a joke. Barely over half of their graduates pass the Bar Exam and they have lower employment numbers than both UofI and NIU. In my opinion it does more to hurt the profile of their school more than it helps. If we add a graduate program I hope it is one that can compete on a state and national level. Anything else is a waste of money that could go to support our already successful programs, such as business and nursing.