Birgs
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Your fine-toothed combing of timeline details appreciated - forest and tree point be damned. The arrow was obviously in a different direction two decades past.
Spot on.
Brennan Resigns
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Jeppson4ever
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I get why the strip club part of the story is what is getting the most attention/scrutiny, but this does does a bit of a disservice to how bizarre/dumb the rest of the story is. The private jet from Bloomington to Indy seems like a waste of resources. I get that Rossi was probably footing that particular bill, but it is still expensive. To me, it seems very incongruent that you would try to entertain folks with a private plane and then in the same breath put those same folks up in a Hampton Inn in Avon.
For those more familiar with IL geography, this trip is akin to a Bradley AD and donor group flying private to Chicago for an evening of entertainment and then staying at the Hampton Inn in Mt. Prospect. If you have access to a private plane, might as we’ll get more utility out of it and maybe fly home the same night to sleep in your own bed. Or maybe you could go to a different entertainment event further away not on the same night as a mens basketball game.
Going to a strip club as part of what is arguably a work function is going to be bad look 100% of the time. But this isn’t a story if Brennan could’ve convinced Rossi to bankroll most of the excessive entertaining costs. This whole trip/fundraising concept was so poorly executed regardless of your stance on strip clubs.
For those more familiar with IL geography, this trip is akin to a Bradley AD and donor group flying private to Chicago for an evening of entertainment and then staying at the Hampton Inn in Mt. Prospect. If you have access to a private plane, might as we’ll get more utility out of it and maybe fly home the same night to sleep in your own bed. Or maybe you could go to a different entertainment event further away not on the same night as a mens basketball game.
Going to a strip club as part of what is arguably a work function is going to be bad look 100% of the time. But this isn’t a story if Brennan could’ve convinced Rossi to bankroll most of the excessive entertaining costs. This whole trip/fundraising concept was so poorly executed regardless of your stance on strip clubs.
And this has officially cost the department money.
www.wglt.org
ISU cancels student fee increase for Athletics amid fallout from donor trip
Illinois State University’s interim president said Wednesday that he’s canceled plans for a student fee increase for Athletics and pledged “closer oversight” of Athletics fundraising in the wake of a costly and widely condemned donor junket.
www.wglt.org
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And back to the old way of not advancing athletics. Shortsighted and a failure of leadership. MVC will pass us by.And this has officially cost the department money.
ISU cancels student fee increase for Athletics amid fallout from donor trip
Illinois State University’s interim president said Wednesday that he’s canceled plans for a student fee increase for Athletics and pledged “closer oversight” of Athletics fundraising in the wake of a costly and widely condemned donor junket.
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I will hope that Senator Holmes and all that supported this will also hold every facet of the university accountable to waste. What Brennan and Co. did was wrong. For reasons beyond this, it was the right move to part ways. But let’s not pretend this is up there with the biggest wastes of university funds. We have spent far more on wasteful decisions.
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Not surprising considering the freshness of the story. Wasn’t expecting them to get more funding from student fees while in the middle of an audit.
This seems more like a ‘not now’ versus never. I’m sure something similar will pop back up down the line.
Schedule is wide open, can we load up on as many P6 buy games as possible.
This seems more like a ‘not now’ versus never. I’m sure something similar will pop back up down the line.
Schedule is wide open, can we load up on as many P6 buy games as possible.
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Will? Try have. Besides, they can’t be spending on athletics when they have multiple segregated graduation ceremonies to conduct. SMFH
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So let’s compound the issue by not spending.
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Prevalent theme with ISU sports.
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Seems like a possible overcorrection on the part of the interim president. The cause and the effect in this case are both reasons why we cannot have nice things. 
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At this point I’m not sure he could anything else. The costs of potential litigation and negative press when already in damage control mode . . .Seems like a possible overcorrection on the part of the interim president. The cause and the effect in this case are both reasons why we cannot have nice things.
Birgs
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What bothers me most as a dedicated alumnus, donor, contributor, once employee, et al - the vibe on this board where folks continue to disparage AD Lyons decades of service, Coach Muller's (despite W/L) legacy, but bat an eyelash at what sounds like some really nasty improprieties. I bleed Reggie Red, but some of the disproportionate vitriol on this board is borderline regurgitating. Some of you mouth-breathers need to rewind the clock and show some respect to the 7 era. Despicable.
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What? Muller didn’t win enough plain and simple. There is no coaching legacy to worry about. And Lyons? He was never supposed to be a long term solution. Plus giving his son so much power and not to mention his daughter-in-law was always going to be viewed poorly. Not a single person has disrespected the 7 so many you’re the mouth-breather that is assuming way too much.
As someone who has grown up with this University, Department and program, and been around it for 46+ years, I say everyone is entitled to an opinion without being called names. People who are in positions like Lyons, Muller and Brennan are public figures who know what they are getting into. Lyons and Muller are fine people, but proved to have some obvious leadership deficiencies, IMO. If you choose to be an uncritical observer and that makes you happy, go for it.
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We aren’t 8 years old. Knock off the name calling.
End of the day wins and losses, butts in the seats and revenue to the department are what matter. Some in the past were successful, some were not, and some were successful and then not were successful. No disrespect but performance is what pays the freight. Sometimes we are too “close” to be objective. I am hoping the focus is on being successful in the immediate future. I would love to see the success that men’s basketball had from let’s say 1983 through the late 80s, but if ISU is successful now it will not be the same. We need to look forward not back. In my humble opinion it appears that Pedon is trying to move ISU forward successfully. In a couple years if wins increase, attendance goes up and revenue increases then we can start to ask how high is high? I say look forward not back.
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Than reign in the stupidity. You’ve let it go far too long for crying out loud.
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This board is mild. There's nothing to reign in.