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Redbird28 said:
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And btw we've also played regular season games in the snow, slush, sleet and freezing rain at Hancock.

Sometimes you get to experience all 4 in the same exact game.

yep, I was at the NDSU game a year ago too. It was something to endure .. with a 15-20 mph sustained wind from the north, game started with driving rain, which eventually turned to sleet, and then finally snow .. from fan perspective, I can take the snow, though it was a wet snow and field got slushy fast after all the rain and sleet. By end of game, the clouds started to lift and I think we saw some sun at one point late in game.
 

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I thought we solved the problem of a place to throw the ball in the other thread about the indoor facility...toss the ball in the bitter cold, snow, slush, sleet and freezing rain at Hancock! Don't let 10" or 12" of snow impede your development you bunch of spoiled millennial sissies! An indoor facility is not a pressing need in central Illinois with the balmy winters you have there.

Go ahead and remove the tongue from your cheek because I'd say you have a valid point. Ask yourself this. What have been the most significant games in Redbird Football history? You could get a lot of different answers but I think most people would say the 2015 National Championship Game and the 3 playoff games that led up to it. In order those include - home playoff against N. Iowa, away game Eastern Washington, away game New Hampshire and NC game in Frisco, TX. Did you know that the game temperature for all 4 of those games was in the 30's? If there is a good likelihood that your school is going to play some of its most important games in 30 degree weather doesn't it make sense to practice in 30 degree weather and maybe even 20's?
And btw we've also played regular season games in the snow, slush, sleet and freezing rain at Hancock.
Very good point TR .. most playoff games will be in 30-40 degree weather, unless indoor team is hosting. But with Spack in charge, I have zero concerns ... I'm pretty sure he is fully willing and able to prepare his team for bad weather as needed. The whole footing point I belabored applies to outdoor bad weather games too. You have to have facilities to prepare each week for the game conditions you will face .. weather conditions, which includes the field condition and surface.

If needed, throwing turf in Horton would solve 80% of what players need. But that would not be smart way to go.
 

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4th you're not getting a building in 5 years. Or 10. Maybe 20. Even 20 years is dreaming.

Horton's not big enough. Even if it was, campus rec uses the hell out of it now. You'd be screwing a lot of students over. Walk in there on a Tuesday night. Taking it away from them wouldn't be right.
 

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JHBird said:
I always wondered how Brady would deal with the cold weather up here, him being from the south. I doubt he ever played in those conditions before.

Terry Bradshaw grew up in Louisiana and went to Louisiana Tech. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career with the Pittsburg Steelers. Brett Favre grew up in Mississippi and went to Southern Mississippi. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career in Green Bay. Real QB's man up and learn to play in cold weather regardless of where they were born. I think Davis will be fine.
 

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Total Red said:
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I always wondered how Brady would deal with the cold weather up here, him being from the south. I doubt he ever played in those conditions before.

Terry Bradshaw grew up in Louisiana and went to Louisiana Tech. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career with the Pittsburg Steelers. Brett Favre grew up in Mississippi and went to Southern Mississippi. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career in Green Bay. Real QB's man up and learn to play in cold weather regardless of where they were born. I think Davis will be fine.

I don't think the biggest issue is where you are from, hometown or state. I think the biggest issue is where you live now. Growing up in Illinois as the seasons change you had a chance to acclimate and while I am not trying to tell you at all that you get used to below zero wind chills, but if you live in a region with cold it does not hit you quite as hard. Living in Normal as the temps drop I would expect Davis to acclimate to the temps over the weeks and months or changing from summer to fall to winter. When you get on a plane from Miami and it is 80 degrees and sunny and a few hours later you land in Chicago and it is 20 degrees with sub-zero wind chills it is just different. Toss in several different time zones if you are travelling from California and yes I think it does give the home team some advantage. Everyone is cold but one team is living in it and one team is passing through for a day or two.
Bradshaw was from Louisiana but living in Pittsburgh when he was the Steelers QB. Same for Farve being from Mississippi but living in Green Bay. Heck, Bart Starr was from Alabama but he lived in Green Bay. Go back and look at the film from the Ice Bowl in '67. I watched it live as a young boy and just watched it again a couple years ago. Look at the shots of the teams on the sidelines. Everyone was cold as could be that day but the Cowboys just looked that much more miserable than the Packers.
I lived in Los Angeles for a couple of years. It was the same every day...70-80 and sunny. I would get on a plane and fly home to Illinois for Christmas and I just could not get warm. Everyone is walking around just fine but I was not used to single digits or teens and I was freezing cold. I would think it is the same with altitude. If you live in high altitudes you are more acclimated than somebody flying in for the weekend. I got nothing to back it up scientifically. Just my observations.
 

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I like Brad's long hair. Maybe you are jealous. He has a wife and I bet she likes it.
 

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I like Brad's long hair. Maybe you are jealous. He has a wife and I bet she likes it.

Hey, if Mrs Davis likes the flowing locks it is A-okay with me!

I have no problem criticizing the players, coaches or the administration...I do not have the intestinal fortitude to take on an angry wife!

;)
 

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rdt99 said:
I like Brady's long hair. .

agreed

his hair is fantastic and i hope he doesn't cut it. Old school 80's metal hair and that is absolutely awesome.

as for his play on the field..........i think he will take a big step forward next year. he has the talent and as long as he puts in the time in the weight room and on the field i think he will be very good next year.

I think if he can add some core strength and work on his fundamentals by using his legs on every throw he will add 10+ yards and 5-10 mph on his fastball.
 

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Virginia Redbird said:
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JHBird said:
I always wondered how Brady would deal with the cold weather up here, him being from the south. I doubt he ever played in those conditions before.

Terry Bradshaw grew up in Louisiana and went to Louisiana Tech. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career with the Pittsburg Steelers. Brett Favre grew up in Mississippi and went to Southern Mississippi. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career in Green Bay. Real QB's man up and learn to play in cold weather regardless of where they were born. I think Davis will be fine.

I don't think the biggest issue is where you are from, hometown or state. I think the biggest issue is where you live now. Growing up in Illinois as the seasons change you had a chance to acclimate and while I am not trying to tell you at all that you get used to below zero wind chills, but if you live in a region with cold it does not hit you quite as hard. Living in Normal as the temps drop I would expect Davis to acclimate to the temps over the weeks and months or changing from summer to fall to winter. When you get on a plane from Miami and it is 80 degrees and sunny and a few hours later you land in Chicago and it is 20 degrees with sub-zero wind chills it is just different. Toss in several different time zones if you are travelling from California and yes I think it does give the home team some advantage. Everyone is cold but one team is living in it and one team is passing through for a day or two.
Bradshaw was from Louisiana but living in Pittsburgh when he was the Steelers QB. Same for Farve being from Mississippi but living in Green Bay. Heck, Bart Starr was from Alabama but he lived in Green Bay. Go back and look at the film from the Ice Bowl in '67. I watched it live as a young boy and just watched it again a couple years ago. Look at the shots of the teams on the sidelines. Everyone was cold as could be that day but the Cowboys just looked that much more miserable than the Packers.
I lived in Los Angeles for a couple of years. It was the same every day...70-80 and sunny. I would get on a plane and fly home to Illinois for Christmas and I just could not get warm. Everyone is walking around just fine but I was not used to single digits or teens and I was freezing cold. I would think it is the same with altitude. If you live in high altitudes you are more acclimated than somebody flying in for the weekend. I got nothing to back it up scientifically. Just my observations.

Great post
 

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Chi-bird said:
Virginia Redbird said:
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Terry Bradshaw grew up in Louisiana and went to Louisiana Tech. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career with the Pittsburg Steelers. Brett Favre grew up in Mississippi and went to Southern Mississippi. He had a NFL Hall of Fame career in Green Bay. Real QB's man up and learn to play in cold weather regardless of where they were born. I think Davis will be fine.

I don't think the biggest issue is where you are from, hometown or state. I think the biggest issue is where you live now. Growing up in Illinois as the seasons change you had a chance to acclimate and while I am not trying to tell you at all that you get used to below zero wind chills, but if you live in a region with cold it does not hit you quite as hard. Living in Normal as the temps drop I would expect Davis to acclimate to the temps over the weeks and months or changing from summer to fall to winter. When you get on a plane from Miami and it is 80 degrees and sunny and a few hours later you land in Chicago and it is 20 degrees with sub-zero wind chills it is just different. Toss in several different time zones if you are travelling from California and yes I think it does give the home team some advantage. Everyone is cold but one team is living in it and one team is passing through for a day or two.
Bradshaw was from Louisiana but living in Pittsburgh when he was the Steelers QB. Same for Farve being from Mississippi but living in Green Bay. Heck, Bart Starr was from Alabama but he lived in Green Bay. Go back and look at the film from the Ice Bowl in '67. I watched it live as a young boy and just watched it again a couple years ago. Look at the shots of the teams on the sidelines. Everyone was cold as could be that day but the Cowboys just looked that much more miserable than the Packers.
I lived in Los Angeles for a couple of years. It was the same every day...70-80 and sunny. I would get on a plane and fly home to Illinois for Christmas and I just could not get warm. Everyone is walking around just fine but I was not used to single digits or teens and I was freezing cold. I would think it is the same with altitude. If you live in high altitudes you are more acclimated than somebody flying in for the weekend. I got nothing to back it up scientifically. Just my observations.

Great post

Ask Jared Goff about the Chicago weather. And defense.😁
 

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TIMMY said:
Chi-bird said:
Virginia Redbird said:
I don't think the biggest issue is where you are from, hometown or state. I think the biggest issue is where you live now. Growing up in Illinois as the seasons change you had a chance to acclimate and while I am not trying to tell you at all that you get used to below zero wind chills, but if you live in a region with cold it does not hit you quite as hard. Living in Normal as the temps drop I would expect Davis to acclimate to the temps over the weeks and months or changing from summer to fall to winter. When you get on a plane from Miami and it is 80 degrees and sunny and a few hours later you land in Chicago and it is 20 degrees with sub-zero wind chills it is just different. Toss in several different time zones if you are travelling from California and yes I think it does give the home team some advantage. Everyone is cold but one team is living in it and one team is passing through for a day or two.
Bradshaw was from Louisiana but living in Pittsburgh when he was the Steelers QB. Same for Farve being from Mississippi but living in Green Bay. Heck, Bart Starr was from Alabama but he lived in Green Bay. Go back and look at the film from the Ice Bowl in '67. I watched it live as a young boy and just watched it again a couple years ago. Look at the shots of the teams on the sidelines. Everyone was cold as could be that day but the Cowboys just looked that much more miserable than the Packers.
I lived in Los Angeles for a couple of years. It was the same every day...70-80 and sunny. I would get on a plane and fly home to Illinois for Christmas and I just could not get warm. Everyone is walking around just fine but I was not used to single digits or teens and I was freezing cold. I would think it is the same with altitude. If you live in high altitudes you are more acclimated than somebody flying in for the weekend. I got nothing to back it up scientifically. Just my observations.

Great post

Ask Jared Goff about the Chicago weather. And defense.😁

Im betting he dont member nuttin !
 

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TIMMY said:
Ask Jared Goff about the Chicago weather. And defense.😁

And it wasn't even that cold. Reminds me of a game I attended in 2005 when the Atlanta Falcons and Michael Vick were miserable in a December Sunday night game.
 

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Total Red said:
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I thought we solved the problem of a place to throw the ball in the other thread about the indoor facility...toss the ball in the bitter cold, snow, slush, sleet and freezing rain at Hancock! Don't let 10" or 12" of snow impede your development you bunch of spoiled millennial sissies! An indoor facility is not a pressing need in central Illinois with the balmy winters you have there.

Go ahead and remove the tongue from your cheek because I'd say you have a valid point. Ask yourself this. What have been the most significant games in Redbird Football history? You could get a lot of different answers but I think most people would say the 2015 National Championship Game and the 3 playoff games that led up to it. In order those include - home playoff against N. Iowa, away game Eastern Washington, away game New Hampshire and NC game in Frisco, TX. Did you know that the game temperature for all 4 of those games was in the 30's? If there is a good likelihood that your school is going to play some of its most important games in 30 degree weather doesn't it make sense to practice in 30 degree weather and maybe even 20's?
And btw we've also played regular season games in the snow, slush, sleet and freezing rain at Hancock.

Good point man. :text-+1:
 

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TIMMY said:
4th you're not getting a building in 5 years. Or 10. Maybe 20. Even 20 years is dreaming.

Horton's not big enough. Even if it was, campus rec uses the hell out of it now. You'd be screwing a lot of students over. Walk in there on a Tuesday night. Taking it away from them wouldn't be right.

Good point. I love Horton for students as well as student athletes
 

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TIMMY said:
4th you're not getting a building in 5 years. Or 10. Maybe 20. Even 20 years is dreaming.

Horton's not big enough. Even if it was, campus rec uses the hell out of it now. You'd be screwing a lot of students over. Walk in there on a Tuesday night. Taking it away from them wouldn't be right.

fully agree and concede point on not taking anything away from students. I wrongly assumed it was mainly for college teams training and maybe HS event overflow, etc.

as for horton being big enough .. I was only making point, something is better than nothing in short to medium term. And that IF they put right surface in Horton, that would suffice until we can afford to build a real indoor facility. It could be enough for position players doing OTA, but obviously not enough for special teams (kicking/punting, KR/PR).

But it was bad idea .. we can NOT take facility away from students .. period. They need one and they are already paying for Hanock 2.0.

But if we have to wait 20 years ... fire people now and find someone who will commit to brwaking ground within 5 years. Spack is in his mid 50's ... his window to bring us Natty is getting smaller.
 

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fourthandshort said:
TIMMY said:
4th you're not getting a building in 5 years. Or 10. Maybe 20. Even 20 years is dreaming.

Horton's not big enough. Even if it was, campus rec uses the hell out of it now. You'd be screwing a lot of students over. Walk in there on a Tuesday night. Taking it away from them wouldn't be right.

fully agree and concede point on not taking anything away from students. I wrongly assumed it was mainly for college teams training and maybe HS event overflow, etc.

as for horton being big enough .. I was only making point, something is better than nothing in short to medium term. And that IF they put right surface in Horton, that would suffice until we can afford to build a real indoor facility. It could be enough for position players doing OTA, but obviously not enough for special teams (kicking/punting, KR/PR).

But it was bad idea .. we can NOT take facility away from students .. period. They need one and they are already paying for Hanock 2.0.

But if we have to wait 20 years ... fire people now and find someone who will commit to brwaking ground within 5 years. Spack is in his mid 50's ... his to bring us Natty is getting smaller.

4th I don't think Horton is a "bad" idea. It's just a busy building because our lack of facilities. It's been that way since I arrived in 1976. :oops: If the football team needs to get their winter work in outside, maybe they could move intramural basketball to the courts by Manchester. Snow shovel required.
 
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