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Why would we want to screw up our out of conference SOS/ RPI by playing Northwestern, DePaul, or U of I?
 

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https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/MEN-S-BASKETBALL-Social-media-turns-ugly-after-12732575.php

Hope Dan is at least pinging the Smith camp.

I saw people on here ruling ISU out and suggesting P5s way better than the shitbag bottom feeding P5 he could NOT succeed at. Is a move up the food chain really realistic if his PT at Shitbag P5 U (Illinois) dwindled all year?

Looking for a better fit can mean almost anything, and worthy of a phone call to find out what he's looking for.
 

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ISU FAN 1 said:
https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/MEN-S-BASKETBALL-Social-media-turns-ugly-after-12732575.php

Hope Dan is at least pinging the Smith camp.

I saw people on here ruling ISU out and suggesting P5s way better than the shitbag bottom feeding P5 he could NOT succeed at. Is a move up the food chain really realistic if his PT at Shitbag P5 U (Illinois) dwindled all year?

Looking for a better fit can mean almost anything, and worthy of a phone call to find out what he's looking for.

Hate to admit this but I am sure any non power 5 school that tries to call him will get an automated text back saying he is unavailable to talk to them.
 

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Trey_Guidry4three said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/MEN-S-BASKETBALL-Social-media-turns-ugly-after-12732575.php

Hope Dan is at least pinging the Smith camp.

I saw people on here ruling ISU out and suggesting P5s way better than the shitbag bottom feeding P5 he could NOT succeed at. Is a move up the food chain really realistic if his PT at Shitbag P5 U (Illinois) dwindled all year?

Looking for a better fit can mean almost anything, and worthy of a phone call to find out what he's looking for.

Hate to admit this but I am sure any non power 5 school that tries to call him will get an automated text back saying he is unavailable to talk to them.

Was Dan recruiting him last year? If so, was there any interest?
 

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Trey_Guidry4three said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/MEN-S-BASKETBALL-Social-media-turns-ugly-after-12732575.php

Hope Dan is at least pinging the Smith camp.

I saw people on here ruling ISU out and suggesting P5s way better than the shitbag bottom feeding P5 he could NOT succeed at. Is a move up the food chain really realistic if his PT at Shitbag P5 U (Illinois) dwindled all year?

Looking for a better fit can mean almost anything, and worthy of a phone call to find out what he's looking for.

Hate to admit this but I am sure any non power 5 school that tries to call him will get an automated text back saying he is unavailable to talk to them.
The worst that can happen is he say NO, and then move on. Dan said NO is his 2nd favorite response from a recruit.

I never like the prevailing sentiment on here that certain players are too big for us. I hope Dan doesn't think that small, or another 20 years of drought, and much coaching turnover, awaits our fan base.
 

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ISU FAN 1 said:
Trey_Guidry4three said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/MEN-S-BASKETBALL-Social-media-turns-ugly-after-12732575.php

Hope Dan is at least pinging the Smith camp.

I saw people on here ruling ISU out and suggesting P5s way better than the shitbag bottom feeding P5 he could NOT succeed at. Is a move up the food chain really realistic if his PT at Shitbag P5 U (Illinois) dwindled all year?

Looking for a better fit can mean almost anything, and worthy of a phone call to find out what he's looking for.

Hate to admit this but I am sure any non power 5 school that tries to call him will get an automated text back saying he is unavailable to talk to them.
The worst that can happen is he say NO, and then move on. Dan said NO is his 2nd favorite response from a recruit.

I never like the prevailing sentiment on here that certain players are too big for us. I hope Dan doesn't think that small, or another 20 years of drought, and much coaching turnover, awaits our fan base.
While I agree with the sentiment, ISU also has recruiting budget, what Dan and staff can spend on trips, home visits, etc. I'm sure it's not infinite. They also have to take time to build relationships and there is limited time you can talk to or contact a recruit.

Andrew Bagley III was not coming to ISU. Ever. I don't care how much Dan could have or would have recruited him. I don't care if Doug Collins went to Andrew's house and recruited him (which would have been illegal I'm sure). He wasn't coming to ISU. Dan should not waste time and resources on a recruit like that.

But I agree that he should go after those 3.5-4 star recruits. I just don't agree with "any" recruit shouldn't be off limits. There are some. Not many, but some.
 

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isuquinndog said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
Trey_Guidry4three said:
Hate to admit this but I am sure any non power 5 school that tries to call him will get an automated text back saying he is unavailable to talk to them.
The worst that can happen is he say NO, and then move on. Dan said NO is his 2nd favorite response from a recruit.

I never like the prevailing sentiment on here that certain players are too big for us. I hope Dan doesn't think that small, or another 20 years of drought, and much coaching turnover, awaits our fan base.
While I agree with the sentiment, ISU also has recruiting budget, what Dan and staff can spend on trips, home visits, etc. I'm sure it's not infinite. They also have to take time to build relationships and there is limited time you can talk to or contact a recruit.

Andrew Bagley III was not coming to ISU. Ever. I don't care how much Dan could have or would have recruited him. I don't care if Doug Collins went to Andrew's house and recruited him (which would have been illegal I'm sure). He wasn't coming to ISU. Dan should not waste time and resources on a recruit like that.

But I agree that he should go after those 3.5-4 star recruits. I just don't agree with "any" recruit shouldn't be off limits. There are some. Not many, but some.
Really just referring to the Smith situation, and making a phone call to explore. Not suggesting we start going after the Bagley's of the recruiting world. Although wasn't Jank the first on Anthony Davis? Certainly not suggesting breaking the budget to chase every 5 star. What harm can come from a simple phone call?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh4Q3A0jvKY
 

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isuquinndog said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
I never like the prevailing sentiment on here that certain players are too big for us. I hope Dan doesn't think that small, or another 20 years of drought, and much coaching turnover, awaits our fan base.
While I agree with the sentiment, ISU also has recruiting budget


I rolled my eyes yesterday regarding Mark Smith and the possibility of him considering ISU. But in reading that statement, Fan1, I realize you're right.

Next, and I have no idea where it comes from, because it's so heavily subsidized already...but more than likely we won't move out of midmajor status (ala a Butler or Creighton or Gazonga or WSU, which I hope we aspire to) without a significant increase in the basketball budget.

I hope Shocker success gives us a taste of what could be at Illinois State. It's possible. Their budget, however, was at least 1M higher than ours in '16-'17 and every (I think) other school in the MVC. Big difference. Big edge.

Is anyone friends with Richard Branson? Virgin Arena, anyone??
 

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Is anyone friends with Richard Branson? Virgin Arena, anyone??

A former baseball player just got 26 million dollars richer...
 

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RedbirdSoxFan said:
Trey_Guidry4three said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
https://www.theintelligencer.com/sports/article/MEN-S-BASKETBALL-Social-media-turns-ugly-after-12732575.php

Hope Dan is at least pinging the Smith camp.

I saw people on here ruling ISU out and suggesting P5s way better than the shitbag bottom feeding P5 he could NOT succeed at. Is a move up the food chain really realistic if his PT at Shitbag P5 U (Illinois) dwindled all year?

Looking for a better fit can mean almost anything, and worthy of a phone call to find out what he's looking for.

Hate to admit this but I am sure any non power 5 school that tries to call him will get an automated text back saying he is unavailable to talk to them.

Was Dan recruiting him last year? If so, was there any interest?

Yes. Dan was recruiting him before he "blew up" and the big boys came calling. Don't know if there was any real interest back before or after the P5 interest began.
 

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ISU FAN 1 said:
isuquinndog said:
ISU FAN 1 said:
The worst that can happen is he say NO, and then move on. Dan said NO is his 2nd favorite response from a recruit.

I never like the prevailing sentiment on here that certain players are too big for us. I hope Dan doesn't think that small, or another 20 years of drought, and much coaching turnover, awaits our fan base.
While I agree with the sentiment, ISU also has recruiting budget, what Dan and staff can spend on trips, home visits, etc. I'm sure it's not infinite. They also have to take time to build relationships and there is limited time you can talk to or contact a recruit.

Andrew Bagley III was not coming to ISU. Ever. I don't care how much Dan could have or would have recruited him. I don't care if Doug Collins went to Andrew's house and recruited him (which would have been illegal I'm sure). He wasn't coming to ISU. Dan should not waste time and resources on a recruit like that.

But I agree that he should go after those 3.5-4 star recruits. I just don't agree with "any" recruit shouldn't be off limits. There are some. Not many, but some.
Really just referring to the Smith situation, and making a phone call to explore. Not suggesting we start going after the Bagley's of the recruiting world. Although wasn't Jank the first on Anthony Davis? Certainly not suggesting breaking the budget to chase every 5 star. What harm can come from a simple phone call?

Yes, Jank offered Anthony Davis . . . before anybody knew who Anthony Davis was . . . before Davis played a summer of AAU and all the coaches found out all about him.
 

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/highschool/ct-greatest-illinois-high-school-basketball-teams-20180307-photogallery.html


Tribunes top 64 Illinois HS teams. I remember way too many of these players/teams.
 
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