Yak story may be like Porter at Loyola. Porter in the first, 2 years at Loyola when Loyola was in the Horizon league was 7-23 and then 15-16. Loyola joined the MVC and Porter clock kinda started all over again with Loyola getting used to MVC and recruiting and didn't go on his run until year 4 in the MVC/ year 6 total. . Yak might end up being like that.
And nobody is calling for Pedon in any way. Though I think we’d all expect to be far better than UIC was last year if you ignore first year in MVC.
O I agree and I am patient with Pedon bc I like him and like what he's trying to do. Problem with everyone was leaving a taste in our mouths after Wednesday and now waiting. Was it trying to get rotation, 3rd game in 3 days, Wright State came out on fire? We don't know but waiting to play til Thursday is hard on everyone fans, Pedon, players.
This is grossly inaccurate. UIC was in the Horizon for Yak’s first two years, where he went from 6-10 in year one to 9-10 in year two. They made the jump to the MVC last year where he was competing with a Horizon roster. It’s not remotely the same situation as Pedon. Also tough to make the Yak comparison. When they made the jump to the Valley the league ranked 5 spots higher nationally than the Horizon. They don’t jump, he’s likely a top half of the league team and seeing continued improvement. His clock somewhat reset when they joined a new league.
Thing with Wardle was winning MVC tourneys. That buys time to get to year 8. But whether Porter farther back or Wardle it was different even 4-5 years ago before the portal changes.
good catch i just looked at his stated conf record in bio. but yak did not light it up in yr2 of horizon and was only 15-20 cumulative in horizon which is nothing remarkable but certainly trending right way. horizon conf finishes of 11th and 8th place, yr 1 yr 2 respectively
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‘Cept we didn’t have any momentum, so there’s no energy to ride . . .
I was saying if we were in the same spot as UIC. I’d want to get back on the horse and keep it moving.
They have 9 weeks to play 11 non conference games and 2 conference games. That's less than 1.5 games per week. Maybe start playing a week later in the season? Its not going to complete get fixed because they will give them finals off and a few days around Thanksgiving and Christmas.
I don't like to play a team that's coming off a loss. I don't like to play a team that has a player suddenly unavailable that looks like it will be bad news for them.
Thats how I date
I believe you are talking about credit one? If so I agree it is an easy comfy environment to watch games. Easy in and easy out with easy parking. Been to many high school games and college games there. Comparing redbird vs credit one I feel redbird is more of a sterile environment due to fact that crowd seems further away.
I think someone else posted this, maybe Grad2011. No one is calling for Pedon's job. You're saying three years. Minimum. Okay - when should we care about progress? Three seasons is roughly 95-100 games. At 14-24 we're 40% into that. Personally, I am in on Pedon. I don't want him fired. I believe they'll get better. I believe in his mission and the way he recruits the Midwest and his embracing the community. I think he's the right guy for the job. Evaluating though, we're ten games under .500. Our offense just doesn't work. He hired a staff where one assistant never coached a game and we have no clue why. He hired another to be DOBO and promoted him to assistant and he'd never done the job before. The rest of the staff outside of Judson, who is really only here as a figurehead, are under 25 years old. We don't have a lot of measurable progress to point to. I feel like that is where the criticism on here comes from and those are real red flags, not just message board talk.
I don't think anyone is calling for his head. For me, the positives still outweigh the negatives. The last game was horrendous. Period.