Abdou Ndiaye COMMITTED to ISU

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On campus and enrolled does not mean eligible to play. Sounds like carefully selected words. My expectations from that would be that he will be a student this year and then a basketball player next year. Just reading between the lines.
 

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Redbirdwarrior said:
These "athlete-first" high schools have GOT to go, man. I know we get lots of our players from them, but it always ends up that SOMETHING is shady with them.

That said, I had no intention of Abdou being a main guy this year. I think he is probably our centerpiece moving forward into 2019/20 and beyond. He and Rey might be able to control the Valley if HCDM can go find a couple 3 star guards to match up with them. So if he needs to sit this year (and can do so without losing a year or eligibility), I'm all for it. I think he's just be taking time from Bruninga and I personally think that kid is quietly going to be a 12 point, 7 rebound guy this year.

Dedric Boyd is really good. We will have another year of Copeland and Clarance. Of course, I will always welcome more talent!

I like Taylor A LOT. I think he and Chastain will surprise a lot of people. My brother-in-law from LeRoy keeps asking me if Chastain is going to get PT because 10+ families he knows from LeRoy want to buy season tickets.

...and Jefferson.
 

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Redbirdwarrior said:
These "athlete-first" high schools have GOT to go, man. I know we get lots of our players from them, but it always ends up that SOMETHING is shady with them.

That statement is comical....the shady stuff with most of the players at these "athlete-first" schools started way before they ended up there. Certainly there are some shenanigans but often those schools are trying to academically rehabilitate damaged (behind academically/behavior problems/tough to coach...etc) goods.

ISU has to target these players that have talent but have challenges too as the talented combined with no problem players are going to the major basketball conferences. ISU needs to figure how to get out of the MVC if you want them to compete nationally recruiting while only selecting low risk players Otherwise it is not happening for ISU. Example...look at the current ISU roster....Milik/Copeland/etc.
 

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ChiRedbirdfan said:
Redbirdwarrior said:
These "athlete-first" high schools have GOT to go, man. I know we get lots of our players from them, but it always ends up that SOMETHING is shady with them.

That statement is comical....the shady stuff with most of the players at these "athlete-first" schools started way before they ended up there. Certainly there are some shenanigans but often those schools are trying to academically rehabilitate damaged (behind academically/behavior problems/tough to coach...etc) goods.

ISU has to target these players that have talent but have challenges too as the talented combined with no problem players are going to the major basketball conferences. ISU needs to figure how to get out of the MVC if you want them to compete nationally recruiting while only selecting low risk players Otherwise it is not happening for ISU. Example...look at the current ISU roster....Milik/Copeland/etc.

Check out the movie Amateur on Netflix. It covers recruitment and these type of schools pretty well. It's not a documentary but I feel it accurately covers at least 70% of these athlete-first schools.

https://torontosun.com/2012/03/04/russell-denies-cbc-allegations/wcm/fcd6e9de-2b89-4e13-aa08-e008434e58be
This is the "prep" school that Mikyle and Kaza went to. There was a documentary on it, but it has been removed from its original source.
 

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Adunk33 said:
ChiRedbirdfan said:
Redbirdwarrior said:
These "athlete-first" high schools have GOT to go, man. I know we get lots of our players from them, but it always ends up that SOMETHING is shady with them.

That statement is comical....the shady stuff with most of the players at these "athlete-first" schools started way before they ended up there. Certainly there are some shenanigans but often those schools are trying to academically rehabilitate damaged (behind academically/behavior problems/tough to coach...etc) goods.

ISU has to target these players that have talent but have challenges too as the talented combined with no problem players are going to the major basketball conferences. ISU needs to figure how to get out of the MVC if you want them to compete nationally recruiting while only selecting low risk players Otherwise it is not happening for ISU. Example...look at the current ISU roster....Milik/Copeland/etc.

Check out the movie Amateur on Netflix. It covers recruitment and these type of schools pretty well. It's not a documentary but I feel it accurately covers at least 70% of these athlete-first schools.

https://torontosun.com/2012/03/04/russell-denies-cbc-allegations/wcm/fcd6e9de-2b89-4e13-aa08-e008434e58be
This is the "prep" school that Mikyle and Kaza went to. There was a documentary on it, but it has been removed from its original source.

Amateur is a GREAT movie. I bet more kids start to go overseas, as well. Or play in the G-League.
 

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V Boy said:
On campus and enrolled does not mean eligible to play. Sounds like carefully selected words. My expectations from that would be that he will be a student this year and then a basketball player next year. Just reading between the lines.
:think:
 

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Well, the kid and Rey just walked into the ice cream shop in uptown. Im here for work and stumbled across them. Two 7 footers decked out in ISU basketball gear are hard to miss. The kid is not as thin as youd think. Mighty long.
 

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Redbirdwarrior said:
Well, the kid and Rey just walked into the ice cream shop in uptown. Im here for work and stumbled across them. Two 7 footers decked out in ISU basketball gear are hard to miss. The kid is not as thin as youd think. Mighty long.

Good to know. It will be nice having Abdou here and ready to play this season. Gonna be a special season I think.
 

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The sighting on campus is Great News!!!

Next step - get him eligible for THIS season but I suppose that we may not hear about that
for awhile. Benson shared with me the NCAA Clearinghouse can take all summer to give their updates but
at least Dan's got him in Normal so we're on track.
 

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He's either eligible right now or he's not. And yes it takes a long time for the clearinghouse IF there's a question as to the validity of any of his 16 core courses. This is a complicated process and high schools have a complicated task in getting their core courses approved. To illustrate this check out the NCAA portal for high schools. As a retired AD this was a part of my responsibility. Some of you may find it interesting.

https://web3.ncaa.org/hsportal/exec/links?linksSubmit=ShowActiveLinks

This is where a new or shady school can get hung up.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Tutorials/Additional_Information_Required_Courses.pdf
 

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Redbirdwarrior said:
Well, the kid and Rey just walked into the ice cream shop in uptown. Im here for work and stumbled across them. Two 7 footers decked out in ISU basketball gear are hard to miss. The kid is not as thin as youd think. Mighty long.

That's awesome! I hope those two become best buds. Can you imagine what a dynamic duo they'll become if they stay thru their senior years..
I'm still hoping to run into Buffalomeat on campus. Those 300lb lineman kinda stand out too from the rest of the student population.
 
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I’m just counting on him not qualifying like McIntosh. Won’t sting when and if that news comes. Pleasant surprise if he’s cleared.
 

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I’m just counting on him not qualifying like McIntosh. Won’t sting when and if that news comes. Pleasant surprise if he’s cleared.

:text-+1:

No one has ever been disappointed when their expectations are low.
 

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Adunk33 said:
BirdGrad2011 said:
I’m just counting on him not qualifying like McIntosh. Won’t sting when and if that news comes. Pleasant surprise if he’s cleared.

:text-+1:

No one has ever been disappointed when their expectations are low.

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BirdGrad2011 said:
I’m just counting on him not qualifying like McIntosh. Won’t sting when and if that news comes. Pleasant surprise if he’s cleared.

I kinda feel we need him this year. If he sits then we'll have 4 scholarship players riding the pine this year (Boyd, Fisher, Hillsman + Abdou). That's a good chunk of our roster. Kinda hurts the depth. I just don't want to go thru what we went through last year, and all it would take is a few injuries and there we go again. The key guy I hope stays healthy is Phil. Our guards should be super strong this year with decent depth, assuming Elijah takes a step up. But with Evan, Copeland and Jefferson we should be good, and of course Hein will play some too.
 

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Best case is he's eligible so he can learn and get the freshman mistakes out of the way. Like many have
said, when Mac and Teddy were in this same spot, especially MM he was NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer
when he became NCAA eligible.

I do believe, TB would benefit by Abdou sitting this year. Maybe, that's looking at it wrong but just see Bruninga's
minutes increased if he's got the backup 4 spot.

This is gonna B a fun year.
 

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On the roster online #4, same number as kind David

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