2023-24 Non-Conference Schedule

[ChiRedbirdfan]

I'm not surprised at all that Pedon is engaging with Rose to have a game. Makes perfect sense. Low costs for all involved and a quality D3 opponent. As long it is an exhibition, I'm on board. Just can't ever lose. Ever.

In terms of the neutral site idea, the Coliseum or whatever its called...seats around 7k for basketball. I think it could be more fun at Horton or...at IWU. It'd definitely sell out IWU and most likely Horton as well. That said, if this is just a one year thing, having it at Redbird makes the most sense to me.

“Can’t ever lose”. Why? It is an exhibition game. Iwu has a solid and respectable program The top d 3 teams are typically better than d2 teams. Schedule based upon what makes sense for many reasons vs trying to schedule to avoid losing. This seems like a logical/good exhibition game for many reasons including Isu getting a chance to see how they stack up vs a solid opponent. That said it would be disappointing if ISU lost so there is some pressure there for ISU….which is another reason to play IWU. Though I will not attend I am in the camp that feels this is a good scheduling move.

Speaking of strategic scheduling put me in the other camp that sees zero benefit to playing at Chicago state. Isu is only 150 miles away and have been/will be playing Loyola /uic in Chicago as respects to the concept of playing in chciago for recruits families to see Isu. If we are going on the road let’s try to play a meaningful game

 

[Adunk33]

“Can’t ever lose”. Why? It is an exhibition game. Iwu has a solid and respectable program The top d 3 teams are typically better than d2 teams. Schedule based upon what makes sense for many reasons vs trying to schedule to avoid losing. This seems like a logical/good exhibition game for many reasons including Isu getting a chance to see how they stack up vs a solid opponent. That said it would be disappointing if ISU lost so there is some pressure there for ISU….which is another reason to play IWU. Though I will not attend I am in the camp that feels this is a good scheduling move.

Speaking of strategic scheduling put me in the other camp that sees zero benefit to playing at Chicago state. Isu is only 150 miles away and have been/will be playing Loyola /uic in Chicago as respects to the concept of playing in chciago for recruits families to see Isu. If we are going on the road let’s try to play a meaningful game

You kind of game around to the answer to "Can't ever lose."

IWU is a very respectable D3. But at the end of the day, there is a reason that those kids are at a D3 and ILSTs roster is D1. In theory, a team like Chicago State would have the talent to beat the best D3s. Though, of course there are exceptions. Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard, ya know?

 

[Matt Hein Fan]

The game will mean nothing to ISU and everything to Wesleyan (many of who thought they should have been recruited by ISU). A loss would be extremely embarrassing regardless if it’s an exhibition or not. ISU had a long-standing policy of not playing them for obivous reasons. Pedon and Rose must have a good working relationship, like Pedon has been establishing with many of the local HS coaches.

 

[ScoreboardDotRace]

The game will mean nothing to ISU and everything to Wesleyan (many of who thought they should have been recruited by ISU). A loss would be extremely embarrassing regardless if it’s an exhibition or not. ISU had a long-standing policy of not playing them for obivous reasons. Pedon and Rose must have a good working relationship, like Pedon has been establishing with many of the local HS coaches.

Bridges wouldn’t play ISU.

i disagree. should be at isu only if its a one year thing. neutral if annual

Curious your reasoning around this.

 

[Reggie Redbird]

The game will mean nothing to ISU and everything to Wesleyan (many of who thought they should have been recruited by ISU). A loss would be extremely embarrassing regardless if it’s an exhibition or not. ISU had a long-standing policy of not playing them for obivous reasons. Pedon and Rose must have a good working relationship, like Pedon has been establishing with many of the local HS coaches.

I’ve been told it’s Denny Bridges that does not want IWU to lose its “last win in the series” against ISU. They have played Illinois and BU though, so this is an easy money-maker game and tickets would be at a premium. I’d rather play at Horton when we aren’t going to draw 5k-7k or more for a home game, so out the IWU exhibition in RBA unless we are trying to maximize ticket revenue outside of the STH package.

Considering IWU would bring a ton of fans with no tickets to sell them in Horton, it seems like we would be leaving a lot of single-game ticket revenue on the table.

 

[TBS_20]

Bridges wouldn’t play ISU.


Curious your reasoning around this.

Because we dont want to be like our big brother, that's why. We hate it. Make it fair. It's just a fun exhibition

 

[CaliRdBrd]

I mean, if you’re paying any attention to the players Pedon is offering, you’d probably realize that’s the case already.

He’s getting cozy with CPS coaches? I missed that. That’s good news though.

 

[Manchester Matt]

He’s getting cozy with CPS coaches? I missed that. That’s good news though.

I mean, we have multiple offers out to players at Kenwood alone. Again, pay attention.

 

[Redbirdfan21]

 

[Adunk33]

Interesting schedule, fine enough for year two. 6 home games, 2 road, 3 in the MTE.

In the clip above that Pedon mentioned 2 road games, one being SLU and the other TBD. Most of us probably assumed it would be Western IL since they came to Normal last year, but he did not cite it specifically. If they did play WIU, there would be 3 opportunities to play former Redbirds on the schedule.
Pektrakis-WIU
McChesney-High Point MTE
Chatman- Buffalo MTE

 

[Adunk33]

The game will mean nothing to ISU and everything to Wesleyan (many of who thought they should have been recruited by ISU). A loss would be extremely embarrassing regardless if it’s an exhibition or not. ISU had a long-standing policy of not playing them for obivous reasons. Pedon and Rose must have a good working relationship, like Pedon has been establishing with many of the local HS coaches.

I agree it will mean more to IWU than ISU but it can't mean nothing to the Redbirds. You can't be the D1 team walking around in BloNo having lost to the D3 team. It's gotta mean something.

 

[Bird Friend]

He’s getting cozy with CPS coaches? I missed that. That’s good news though.

My guess is he was already cozy with CPS coaches from his time at OSU.

 

[Dmills]

I haven't found the source to confirm, but I am pretty confident the Western Illinois game was a buy game. We do still owe Chicago State a road game. Whatever the case, it sounds like that game will probably be part of a home and home.

 

[Seven]

IWU and ISU began playing each other in basketball during the 1909-10 season, which was back when ISU was known as Illinois State Normal University. Over the years IWU developed a 68-42 edge in their all-time record against each other.

Yes, I remember watching a video about ISU and IWU being in the "Little 19" conference back then. The conference tournament in those days would commonly have 7-8 games per day, and even peaked at 13 games in one day. Peoria, Bloomington, & Decatur would get into bidding wars for the conference tournament. Some of the teams would even host Big Ten schools - Iowa traveled here to play IWU (but not us) and Illinois played at Millikin. And Millikin was paying their coach nearly the same as Colorado.

 

[RedbirdSoxFan]

My guess is he was already cozy with CPS coaches from his time at OSU.

And at Illinois

 

[MadBird]

Interesting article in today's Indy Star outlining details of IU Hoosiers non-con schedule.

The most expensive nonconference games this season are against Florida Gulf Coast on Nov. 7 ($105,000) and Wright State ($100,000). The exhibition games against UIndy ($15,000) and Marian ($30,000) are considerably cheaper. Harvard, Morehead State, North Alabama and Kennesaw State are all getting paid $95,000 and Army will get $90,000 for visiting Indiana on Nov. 12.The contracts for the buy games are all similar in structure with Indiana agreeing to provide each visiting team100-125 complimentary tickets and stipulating the Big Ten appoint the officials.

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[Adunk33]

Interesting article in today's Indy Star outlining details of IU Hoosiers non-con schedule.

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I've never really thought about how much teams got paid to be bought but wow. I didn't think it'd be that high. IU's schedule costing them 720,000 is wild. Plus the revenue lost to providing the other team complimentary tickets.

If the Birds did buy Western last year, I'm guessing it couldn't have been more than 20-30, right?

 

[Dmills]

I've never really thought about how much teams got paid to be bought but wow. I didn't think it'd be that high. IU's schedule costing them 720,000 is wild. Plus the revenue lost to providing the other team complimentary tickets.

If the Birds did buy Western last year, I'm guessing it couldn't have been more than 20-30, right?

I'd think it would be comparable to SIUE, unless we paid them extra for them to come into Horton. I may have been wrong about WIU being a buy game the more I think about it.

 

[schoolsportsfan]

Our game vs SEMO is a buy game this year.

 

[cubird]

How long can u hold out for a P5 offer without losing a home game?